I swear everytime I improve in LR I get worse in RC. This keeps my overall score constantly in the same 3 or 4 point window. And when I do good in RC, my LR gets bad. All the while, my LG always stays the same.... Is this stamina related or are the tests made that if one section is easy, another is made harder?

For reference, by LG is always between -5 and -9 but my LR and RC always switch places with which one is -7 and which one is -17.

Hi! This may have already been answered, but I could not find it.....

Do you have to purchase lawhub? It is asking me to renew my subscription but I am not sure if its necessary? I know it allows me to practice what my test day will be like but seems like a waste since I have access to PTs through 7sage.

Thanks!

During my senior year in undergrad, I was reported for academic dishonesty (plagiarism). I previously had a class with the professor that reported me and I got an A in his class, which is why I was surprised that he thought I plagiarized. The professor said it was a minor case of plagiarism because I did not paraphrase adequately in certain parts of my final essay. I met with the dean and I ultimately admitted to plagiarism and I got a deferred suspension (which is just fancy language for a warning). The dean said that I had to attend an avoiding plagiarism workshop before graduation so that's what I did. I asked the dean if something like this would appear on my transcript and she said that UCLA (the uni I attended) does not make a notation on the transcript but it holds a separate records that are confidential. She said the records would not be released to law schools without their request and my authorization. I ultimately got an A- in that class.

So what should I do? Does attending a workshop like this count as disciplinary action? Is a warning all that bad? And will law schools see that something like this happened through the LSAC CAS report?

Hi guys! I've recently had an issue and just wanted to see if anyone else has had this problem/knows how to work towards solving it.

I'll do fine on practice sections, I typically get around 5 wrong, give or take a few. Im doing these under the normal timed conditions as well.

But when it comes to the actual PT itself (which I try my absolute best to adhere to actual test conditions in) I'm always scoring in the lower end of the 150's.

I don't know if this is test anxiety, mental fatigue, or what. I'm just posting this to see if anyone else has had this issue so I don't feel completely crazy, and also seeing if anyone who's had this issue has found a way to fix it.

Thanks! :)

Hi there,

I do not have access to the new V2 beta curriculum. Is there any way I could get access to it?

Thanks!

Hi guys! I made a study guide for LR with all my notes as I did the core curriculum on 7sage! I was wondering if there was a way to upload the document so others could use it? Is there a PDF upload feature I can't find? Thanks!

#help

I have accommodations that allow me 70 minutes per section, but the PrepTests on here won't allow me to set the time to 70 minutes - anyone know how to fix this?

I have been looking, and think I know the answer but want to confirm! Is there any way to know which section is the experimental/ungraded section on the exam? Is it always last? Or, could it be any one of the four in any order? Thanks.

Hi! Does anyone have a sense of how LSAC distributes difficulty of sections/passages? I'm usually quite consistent across sections with my scores, but occasionally, a really hard (4 or 5 star) RC or LR section will land me -6 or more. Some exams might have one and some seem to not. Do they take this into account with the curves? Just curious what people's sense is.

Hello! I just finished going over the informational videos for LR and wanted to crack down on some drills. I am concerned about using up questions from the new LSAT exams so what is the best way to create drill sessions with older PTs? I have having mixed info about whether the older ones are covered in PT 1-35 or PT 1-45. Also what are the PT with letter a (ie. A, B, C) instead of numbers?

Thank you!

~Lonelycarbon

I just wanted to share my LSAT story as it comes to a close. I took a diagnostic in December and got a 154, and then studied all spring semester with classes going on, I was in the 160's after finishing the core curriculum, and then was in the low 170's, but felt like I was plateauing, especially with reading comp and was not really sure what else I could do on my own. I decided to get a tutoring package, and was paired with Chris Bearne, and he was great. We worked almost entirely on reading comp, and was really helpful in me bringing that down and giving me the ability to get 0-2 wrong on that section when I was 4-6 wrong before. I took the April LSAT, and felt great coming out of it, thinking I might have even got a 180, but I ended up getting a 171. While that is a great score, it was below my PT average of 175 so I decided to retake it. I took the June LSAT and got a 176!

A couple of things that I learned during my journey.

Do what it takes to keep you motivated. The advice generally given is to take your time in the core curriculum, do drills instead of PT's, and extensively blind review everything. I tried to follow that advice, and got through all of the CC, albet was not as thorough as I could have been, but as I transitioned to drills I could not get myself excited to study that way, and would end up not feeling very productive. I am a competitive person, I like to play basketball, not shoot hoops, I like to play golf, not go to the driving range, I like to play chess, not do chess puzzles. I could go on and on. I would get genuinely excited to take PTs, excited by the chance to compete and get a better score than last time. I ended up taking 49 practice tests, basically just taking a PT every time I wanted to study. After them I would blind review my flagged questions, and then look at all the video explanations for my incorrect answers and flagged questions. This method was my way of enjoying studying for the thousand hours I probably put into the LSAT in total. I probably could have gotten more efficient results doing the prescribed method, but I like the direction that I went in.

Logic Games are solvable. I ended up getting to the point where I was getting -0 with plenty of time to spare on pretty much every logic games section I did, the only time I did not was typically when I misread something. My method was centered on basically solving all of the worlds before going to any of the questions. I would do all of the splits necessary to get all of the worlds, even if it would take me to like 16 worlds sometimes, because I knew that once it was all solved, all the questions would take like 10 seconds, and I would be 100% confident in my answer being correct. I was pretty much always faster than the recommended time for each game. The trick is figuring out the most efficient ways to split, and to stay organized so that you could keep track of everything. This works for most games but not all games, whenever one of the games that it did not work out on I usually had enough time to realize it and do it the normal way because I saved so much time on the other games. This is what worked for me, it might not work for everyone, but if you are struggling with games I encourage you to give it a shot.

Reading comp is all about focusing while you are reading and connecting all of the dots. This was tough for me because I would often zone out and stop thinking about connecting all of the dots. I realized that all I had to do was read things and then internally connect that to the other things that I had read so far, and I was able to understand everything so much better.

I've been having a problem with test taking fatigue and low stamina. I'm well into my studies but I've been studying on and off for two years now with 2 courses under my belt. I know the material and overall I'm familiar with the test. However, when I take PT timed I notice that I do well in the beginning and I start completely bombing at the end because I feel tired and this is reflected in my score as well. All checkmarks for the first 20-25 questions and almost all wrong at the end (last 8-10 questions). When I blind review my score is drastically different and I see the stupid mistakes I make that I wouldn't have if I wasn't so fatigued. There's a 10 point difference in my timed score and blind review score. Does anyone have any great tips to increase test taking stamina and decreasing fatigue? I feel if I can get past this hurdle I'll be in a much better place in my studies to help me get close to my ideal score.

I did the version 2 of the core curriculum, I think LR questions are taken from pt61-65 but I'm not sure about the RC or LG sections. If I completed the CCV2 what practice tests should I take?

Making this post because JY and Bojack prompted me to (haha)

I wish I could post a screenshot of my analytics here; they paint a better picture of my progress.

Long story short, I've been prepping on and off since September last year. I truly believe that, unless you're a freak of logic and are just genetically predisposed to the sort of thinking required for this exam, you need to be prepared to grind it out for the long haul. Taking breaks (even month-long ones) is perfectly okay so long as you recognize that you'll have to build yourself back up again after a lengthy one (it's just like building strength & muscle in the gym).

If you have any questions, feel free to ask!

Honestly, I feel like I still have a long way to go. When you get a 180 on a PT here, JY sends you a message where Bojack tells you that you have no more room to improve, but I don't think that's the case. I can still improve on time, and I really need to have no room for error if I am to achieve my goal of getting a 178+ (preferably a 180) on the October LSAT.

So don't take my words as gospel haha. I'm definitely not an LSAT god or anything yet.

Safe travels everyone.

P.S. I'm actually wondering whether I should just skip to later PTs (I've been taking PTs one by one in order), and I'm also wondering how much PTs in the 40s differ from PTs in the 90s. Can someone with experience help me out here? I don't think I can take the rest of the PTs (46 - 93) by October 14, so I'm wondering how I should tackle them by that time.

Hi is anyone else struggling to schedule through Prometric? I have been stuck trying to get a time for the last half hour but it keeps on saying there are no available times. #help

Hi!

So I plan on taking my LSAT with 2-3 months of prep time... I know most take a lot longer, but I was hoping to see how practical it was.

I scored 155 on my first disgnostic exam with no prep. I have NOT taken another full exam as I'm trying to learn about the section types before retaking. On average I will get all LG right if I have enough time, which I figure it I keep practicing and keep doing them, it won't really be an issue (I missed 4 on my diagnostic so almost a full game, but I did have enough time to set up). But I am struggling on LR and RC, going through some lessons, it seems LR can be easily improved with more understanding of formatting.

I am also aiming for 170s :)

Please give opinions and any methods or tips would be greatly appreciated!!

Hi all! I’m a rising sophomore who’s interested in taking the LSAT spring of 25. This gives about a year and a half of studying, is this too much? Should I wait till later?

My GPA won’t suffer, and my diagnostic was a 158 with my goal being a 175+

Thanks!

hi guys, it finally got to my turn after being like 5800th in the queue and i think the issue got resolved bc it immediately only showed me time slots for remote testing and no in-person options (thats what i put as my preference a couple weeks ago, idk if that has anything to do with it).

anwayyyy, do you guys know how we're supposed to know if the time slot we chose is actually confirmed and reserved? like i selected a certain time slot and clicked on 'reserve test time.' the 'select' button turned into a green 'selected' button and thats about it. theres no other clickable thing on that page soooo,,, is that it or are we supposed to do smtg else after?

I am currently signed up to take the August LSAT and I've been debating on taking the test at an in-person testing center this go around. Unfortunately, my first two attempts taking the LSAT I ran into technical difficulties and issues with my proctor interrupting, which caused me to lose ~8 minutes on my most recent attempt in June. Would love to hear other people's opinion on in-person testing vs online before I make my final decision this afternoon. Thanks!

I took the April LSAT and scored significantly lower than my goal score and average PT. I was pretty devastated and decided I needed to try something different ahead of taking the test again in June, so I signed up for tutoring. I got matched with Chris Bearne and started immediately. Right away, I could tell just how knowledgable Chris was about this test. He helped me craft a time saving strategy for LG and consistently suggested challenging games and passages that were great for practice. Aside from all the help with actual material, Chris helped me lock in my mindset and get confident ahead of test day. I ended up scoring 5 points higher on my second test, and Chris was almost more excited than I was when I updated him on my results. He is a super smart guy and a nice person and I would recommend him for anyone else looking to get these last couple points out of their test

Hey! Does anyone know if we can chew gum or have mints while taking the LSAT? Have the rules changed since the exam is online?

Hey everyone! Just wanted to share some things I learned during my 7sage-ing in case they help anyone. For background, I started studied for the LSAT in September of last year aiming for a 170. My diagnostic (completely blind) was 156. My first LSAT was April 2022 and I got a 166. I re-grouped and took the test again in June scoring a 171!!!! Now, I’m feeling really optimistic about getting into my dream school of UCLA! (Or maybe even thinking about NYU)!!!!

Time and proper focus is everything. I’m certain if I devoted more time I could’ve scored a 175 since my BR scores have been in that range, but my priority was being done taking the LSAT by June. If you’re discouraged by your scores you really need to sit and think, is my priority to go to law school or is it to get my dream lsat score and go to a “dream T-14”? Your answer to this should really be driving your studying. With infinite time I’m sure all of us could score 170+, but we can also all go to law school and be wonderful lawyers without that score. Don’t get bogged down in all this high scoring nonsense.

I started Core Curriculum before it was shortened so this may not apply anymore, but I think the best thing I did was skip unnecessary practice drills during the core curriculum. I’d do all the lessons but only drill past a certain point if I was really struggling. Don’t feel like you need to do all of the material. Also, I went into studying strong on reading comprehension, so I completely skipped RC core curriculum to devote that time and energy to logic games. The most important part of studying is figuring out what YOU are doing wrong and where YOU need help.

FOOLPROOFING WORKS! I hated foolproofing and at times felt annoyed with how long the logic games curriculum was, but truly it was the thing that helped me most.

BLIND REVIEW. I think possibly the best thing about the 7sage method.

Create a testing routine. What brought my score up between April and June was making sure no matter what I had a system of taking the test with timing markers (like I want to finish the first ten LR questions in 8 minutes to leave room for review) that I was consistently hitting. Confidence is what matters most on test day, and you need to be confident in your routine.

Don’t waste time taking PT after PT after PT. PT’s are just benchmarks, and at first it’s helpful to take a lot to build up stamina, but after they don’t actually help you improve. Drills and careful blind review is where your score increase happens. So, if you’re cramming in three PTs a week, I’m nearly certain you’re not devoting enough time to Blind Review and Drilling to improve.

That’s all I can think of on the top of my head, but message me if you’ve got any questions about my specific studying methods! Wishing everyone luck, and remember the LSAT is not a measure of your intellect, worth, or prospects for future success! You got this!

Hi,

So, I do better when I am moving my mouth when I am reading. Obviously, I won't be making noise or actually talking. The fact of me just moving my mouth helps me slow down and absorb the test stimulus and answer choices. I was wondering if the proctor would be mad at me for moving my mouth but making no noise during the LSAT exam? This is in the scenario of both in-person and virtual testing environments.

I recently am reapplying to get into law school, I am hoping to get accepted in Baylor Law School and want to increase my score to the median (160). My lsat score was a 147 but I increased it to a 150 I am hoping to increase my score to 160 so I have a good chance in getting accepted. Any tips (very detailed) would be helpful on what help you breaks into the 160's from the 150's. Right now the section that I have the most incorrect is reading comprehension and I am currently working on logical reasoning after studying logic games for a month. (Also what do you think is the best way to study to benefit me the most understanding in each section)

My first recorded LSAT was a 164 in January, I recently took the June LSAT and scored a 163. I am worried that schools will look unfavorably on there not being any improvement over a 6 month period let alone a point decrease. Should I cancel my score?