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I took the December exam and got a score of 161. It was the 1st time I took the exam and scored approx. 3 points lower than I was scoring prior to the exam. I am applying to UCI Law and was wondering if you guys think I should retake in February or not. My GPA is 3.45

UCI's 25 percentile GPA: 3.38 and LSAT 160.

50 percentile GPA: 3.57 and LSAT 163.

75 percentile GPA 3.68 and LSAT 165.

I know my numbers are a bit higher than the 25th percentile but I'm not sure if they're strong enough. Any advice or opinion would be greatly appreciated.

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Proctors: About 5 proctors, all very competent but not uptight and helped to create an overall relaxed atmosphere.

Facilities: Law School Building or Engineering Building. Vanderbilt is a beautiful university with very clean, modern facilities and plenty of room to hang out during the break with comfy chairs and couches.

What kind of room: Large lecture hall

How many in the room: ~50 -60

Desks: Long continuous lecture hall tables, ergonomic chairs with wheels, good lighting.

Left-handed accommodation: There was an empty seat between each test taker, plenty of room for lefties without bumping their neighbor.

Noise levels: Very low to silent, signs in the halls asking people to be quiet, testing in progress.

Parking: I walked to the test but there is parking available, I believe at a ramp several blocks away.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: ~ 1 hr

Irregularities or mishaps: None, proctors are very competent and clearly experienced.

Other comments: Great testing site. October was in the law school building, we were split into 2 smaller lecture halls by last name, February everyone was together in a bigger but almost identical lecture hall in the Engineering building.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

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Looking for someone at the same level of their studies as me - Completed CC and taking PT's and doing thorough Blind Reviews. It will be my first time writing.

My goals for the next two months include: score more consistently, build endurance, identify and improve weak areas, really work on improving RC

I am hoping to get through some of the 70's tests this month and 80's during June. I am also open to doing older tests or even just sections ( example LR section or single RC passage) when not testing and BR-ing.

I find Blind Review VERY helpful and hoping someone who is preparing for July will be down. We don't have to do every single test together- maybe a few - unless you want to do more.

If you are interested, at the same level and have similar goals - then let me know!

My time zone is Mountain Standard

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Just a thread for fun and some motivation. Any stories, hopefully positive, here of people pulling all nighters or spurts of no sleep in law school? I would imagine there are perhaps many interesting 1l stories? Just curious because I am graduating from undergrad in 3 months and haven’t got much sleep lately even during my break. I’ve just been reading lots of nonfiction for fun to increase my reading capacity. In retrospect, I thought I did a lot of reading in undergrad but now am beginning to realize I didn’t even know the half of it.

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Hello! So.. my worst case scenario came true. I took the January 2023 LSAT for the first time, did not do great, and cancelled my score. I took the LSAT for a second time in September and managed to score worse by TWO points than the Jan LSAT I cancelled. I am really stressing out about if I should cancel my score or keep it - only if it would really look that bad to T-14 schools to have two cancellations. For context, I am also registered for the October 2023 exam. My September score is MUCH lower than any of my target school averages, and so I want to cancel the score but don't know if there's any merit to avoiding having two cancellations on my record. The September test was a bit of a fluke for me as I panicked and really got in my head during the exam.

I appreciate anyone's help!

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Is it possible to schedule the LSAT flex in the middle of the night? Taking the test in the middle of the night would be the most safe option for minimizing disturbances for my environment, but I was wondering if it was even possible.

Are available test times on a 24-7 basis for your region? In previous proctorU registrations I only looked at the specific time I wanted so I didn’t really look at how wide-ranging the times that they had were.

For instance, if I was in the region (Europe, Africa, and the Middle East), would the time slot “3 am” in the UK even be an option for me haha, or are all the time slots limited to just early morning to reasonable nighttime hours. If anyone remembers that would be helpful!

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Side note:

IF ProctorU has 24-7 availabilities, I am also of course curious to hear about any health/scientific comments on health impacts/performance of switching to a nocturnal life. (I used to wake up at 9 AM, sleep at midnight). It would be a major change, but there are 16 days to go until Jan 19 so I think it's possible to adjust to being nocturnal. Just not sure if there might be unknown consequences.

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Help me with my last 6 weeks study plan! (hopefully)

I’ll be taking Nov. 25th test, and I just restarted on taking PTs last week.

So far done 67, 69 and 73. And got 160, 169, 169 respectively.

These are the score breakdown:

PT 67 (actual -25 / BR -14)

LR (-7/-7)

LR (-7/-4)

LG (-2/-0)

RC (-9/-3)

PT 69 (actual -13 / BR -11)

LR (-5/-4)

LR (-3/-4)

LG (-0/-0)

RC (-5/-3)

PT 73 (actual -13 / BR -13)

LR (-3/-3)

LR (-4/-5)

LG (-0/-0)

RC (-6/-5)

I’ve been spending a lot of time on blind review. It used to take about 8 hours, and now it takes more like 20 hours. Thought they were supposed to go down. Anyways, I’m fine with that, but I just don’t know what I can do to eliminate overconfidence errors. Out of 10 circled question, I usually circle one or two that I actually get wrong. So there’s also under-confidence error, but I’m trying to fix oc first…

I’ve been thinking about reusing used PTs for drills.

Maybe do 1 fresh PT on Monday through Wednesday, and do 3 used PTs for Th, Fri, Sat? I won’t be doing BR as extensively for used PTs, and only do BR and missed question review. (think this would count as section drills?)

Or would it be better to just do 2 fresh PTs every week?

Is it my lack of understanding in foundations? I want to return to CC, but I don’t even know what I don’t know.

My BR score dropped thanks to overconfidence errors...urgh

And how should I BR RC? I'm reading the section untimed, do low-res/structure and watch videos and explanations right now.

Should I BR questions without re-reading the passages?

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Slight problem - I have a slightly long first name, and Prometric only took in the first 15 letters (including spaces) of it. Thus, my LSAT registration only has the first 15 letters of my first name and does not exactly match my ID. Has this happened to anyone before/any suggestions on who to reach out to?

To address any potential questions: I can definitely rule out my own human error, as my first name is correctly and fully entered on my LSAC profile. I also tried to add my full first name on the registration page, but unfortunately Prometric's website pulls it from LSAC and puts it in an uneditable field.

Any views appreciated - thanks!

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Hello.

I have just received my scores from the September LSAT and received a 154. I was hoping for a 160, or even a 158-159. I wish to apply to Canadian Law Schools (as I am Canadian woop) and the general average LSAT score they accept is 160. My PT scores have been fluctuating between mid 150s to low 160s. Most of them being high 150s.

So, I definitely want to re-take the LSAT. I am currently unsure if I should register in November or January and see pros and cons to both.

Currently I am a 4th year student in my undergraduate degree. So during November I would be knees deep in midterm season. I feel I would maybe have less time to study, and given the already sort of tight constraints, perhaps I would not be able to pull my score to where I want it to be in time? Meanwhile taking the LSAT in January would allow me more time to study for sure, especially with Winter break and only just starting new classes.

On the flip side though, I know the law schools in Canada have a sort of rolling admission policy. So, writing later could put me at a disadvantage in that regard?

So, I am just wondering which LSAT date do you think it's best for me to write? Is it realistic to expect improvement for the November one, or should I go with January?

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Hi! I am scheduled to take the June test on Monday, though I don't think I will hit my goal score. I have been PTing 168-170 (but dipping as low as 166), and I really would like to get a 171-173. This means that I am going to give it a shot on Monday, but I am planning to take the test again in the fall or winter since I know I can still improve. I have only been studying for 3 weeks.

HOWEVER! My question is - if I purchased a course, would it be easily modified to take less time considering that I am already very familiar with the test? I lose most points in LG but can lose 2-3 in the other sections as well, but it seems like the bulk of the course is covering not-LG stuff which I don't necessarily want to spend weeks and weeks re-learning. Thanks for any advice that anyone can provide before I decide to purchase!

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Hey everyone, pretty new to the application process and thought you all could help with my question. I am currently towards the GPA 25th percentile (3.45) and the median LSAT (164) for my target/reach schools. I have been working for a few years now, and I think I have time to study hard for the December LSAT to boost my score a few more points. However, I know applications are reviewed on a rolling basis and would prefer to submit my application as soon as possible.

Is it recommended to apply after I have received my December scores, before I receive my December scores or just go with what I currently have?

Any input would be a huge help, thanks!

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Hey guys I heading to Hong Kong in few days and will be staying in the Kowloon from early-December to mid-January. I am aiming for the February test and have been PT in the 165-175 range. I plan to do PTs and fine tuning RC and LR sections during my stay at Hong Kong.

Personally, I find it extremely helpful to form a LSAT group in order to PT efficiently and rigorously, as well as stay motivated. I mostly need a group for PT and not for studying or going over PT purpose, but I am also open to studying together if it turn out to be efficient. I don't care about your PT score range. If anyone is interested, please inbox me.

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Remember! They've changed their policy since September about identification. It now has to match exactly with what you inputted for LSAC.

My name is not standard, and although I always write my name as one word, government offices always separate my name into two parts. So I had to update my profile to match my ID exactly last week. Make sure you guys do the same!

They say it takes 3-5 days for them to get back to you, but in my case, they updated my name in minutes after I sent the email, so I think they're trying their hardest to accommodate people who have to make changes in response to the change in policy.

Just a PSA~ Talk to you all after Saturday. =)

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After getting my score from the August LSAT today I'm totally at a loss. I took my first LSAT in June and scored a 157 which was not where I wanted to be. I then buckled down and studied harder for the August LSAT. I was averaging 163's right before the first go around of the test. I, along with most everyone had problems with my August LSAT. I choose to take it again and I truly felt that the test went well. I got my score back again today and I once again got a 157. I was really hoping to submit my applications as early as possible because I know that the earlier the better. Should I sacrifice this to take the test again? I am just worried that waiting until the end of October (when the October test score comes out) is going to be too long and hurt me in the long run of the admissions process. Please help I am very unsure of what to do at this point and the date to register for the October test closes tomorrow. I have a strong GPA (3.76) and good extra curriculars and I am not trying to make t14 or anything but I still want to get into the best schools that I can.

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Wanted to see if anyone could share their thoughts / been in a similar position! I'm retaking the LSAT soon and wondering if I should also retake the writing portion. My first writing wasn't bad in terms of structure and argument but it ended abruptly because I ran out of time (was missing two words off the last sentence), and I was wondering if it would be worth it to redo the writing because of it in case it affects admissions.

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If you plan on taking the lsat Oct. 3rd and you are located in Los Angeles, CA you should join my summer study group. We plan to meet at USC or UCLA. For dates, times and other information please email me at davidson0425@gmail.com. We also have a shared lsat dropbox folder.

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