Hi friends, new learner here! I'm on the Skill Builder section of the Complex Arguments foundational lessons (https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/skill-builder-complex-arguments/) and am quite lost on how to parse out Question 5.4:

"We see that our village solely trains personnel for specific trades. These individuals' lives would change dramatically if the programming failed. So it follows, proposition to build a new enterprise—although challenging—truly has merit. Sure a blacksmith center in the village after some sweat, monetary donations, and perseverance might be a reality. It just seems making a pitch for a blacksmith center really matters."

I've been reading and re-reading this question trying to figure out A) what this passage is even saying [it doesn't make sense to me!], and B) how the premises/conclusions were determined.

My initial reaction was the following:

Appreciate any help here! TY :-)

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I am studying for the August LSAT, trying to make it consistently into the mid 170s. I average about -3 to -4 on RC and -1 to -3 on LR. What would be your recommendations to try to consistently go -1/0 on LR and bring RC consistently to -3 or better.

Hi! So I am planning on taking the August lsat because I have decided to not study LG anymore, as it was my weakest. I am about 80% done with LR and then have all 77 RC lessons, which I don't expect will take more than a month or two. Obviously, I have a long time to study, but I know that the drilling sessions and PT sessions are meant to be taken after you complete all the lessons. I do not want to waste clean, unused material before I can make the most of it (aka, until I've done all my LR and RC lessons). However, on the other hand, I want to make sure I am practicing enough without JY's help always being available. I also want to test myself on the LR typesI learned weeks ago.

My question is - should I not be creating drills (other than the "you trys"and drills at the end of each lesson set) until after I have completed all my lessons, or do you recommend doing some infrequent drilling on question types I'm not doing well on? My fear is that since I have given myself ample study time, I want to save as much material as I can for when I really am trying to master my skills, not build them.

Would love to hear other people's study patterns and whether or not they go through the entire syllabus before using the drill or PT pratice options.

Thanks all! good luck with your studies

edit - I should note that I am working full time as a paralegal on top of studying, so although I have until August, I am only devoting between 1-3 hours a day and sometimes I do not study on the weekend much.

Email me if you’re struggling, tmh5947@psu.edu

Hey does anyone have good links or a list for the different type of cookie cutter questions? I know there's the oldest trick in the book and the like, but I'm drawing blanks on everything else. I'd love to get as many as these together to drill and foolproof them!

Proctors: Militaristic. No nonsense. There was a lead proctor, and four others. Instructions were clear, time keeping was on point, and generally they did a great job.

Facilities: Very clean, well maintained.

What kind of room: Stadium seating, large lecture hall type of room.

How many in the room: Over 50.

Desks: A single long desk that accommodated 5 or more students per row. Chairs were anchored to the desks. Were not the most comfortable.

Left-handed accommodation: Not needed due to nature of desks not being for each individual student.

Noise levels: Extremely quiet.

Parking: Excellent and easy. Huge parking lot right outside of the building where the exam is administered. Parking is free

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 90 Minutes approximately, did not really keep track of this.

Irregularities or mishaps: Someone came dangerously close to being asked to leave the exam for working after time expired.

Other comments: No brainer if you are in Suffolk County, I heard horror stories from people at Hofstra (huge campus with a ton of buildings), so probably a better choice for Nassau residents as well.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June, 2015

Proctors: 4-5

Facilities: 2 story - testing upstrairs, split into different rooms based on last name

What kind of room: regular law school classroom

How many in the room: approx. 30-40

Desks: 20-25

Left-handed accommodation: there was, unsure as to amount available

Noise levels: very quiet, calming and was able to focus

Parking: free parking, outside in law school parking lot; guarded by security

Time elapsed from arrival to test: approx 1 hour - 1 hour 20 mins

Irregularities or mishaps: none

Other comments: professionalism was apparent, staff was friendly and accommodating

Would you take the test here again? yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Feb 2016

I did the LSAT in January and I have a huge stack of unmarked printed questions (all sections) that I didn't get to during my test preparation. About 200-300 pages in total. I am based in Glassell Park and if anybody in the North East LA area would like them I can drop off or leave on my front porch. Apologies to the moderators if this posting is not allowed.

i took my first two PT (other than my diagnostic) over a year ago after about 2 weeks of studying using the powerscore books, and scored a 165 and 168 respectively (which i know are more than decent!). i took a break from studying since school & work were super busy. i started up again earlier this month with 7sage and am planning to take it in september, but i feel like i'm not improving at all or even getting worse, especially in LR. my LR scores are almost the same as my initial diagnostic and two PTs last year. when i revise my wrong answers, i feel like i grasp the individual question but am unable to reapply the theories/methods elsewhere.

i'm aiming for a score in the low 170s. any advice for this kind of plateau—or should i just keep at it and be patient (i am a very impatient person when it comes to my studies)? or should i change up my method (slow down w the curricula, drill more, etc.)? i've just been going through the curriculum and i'd say i am about 70% through.

sometimes i feel like i just need to chill and take everything in but i physically cannot be chill in general. and comparing myself to my diagnostics last year & how quickly i made progress back then makes me a little frustrated. this post is a bit long but if there's any advice for how to better frame my studies/approach in general, i would really appreciate it.

Hi, I have finished my personal statement. It is meant to be of the "overcoming adversity" variety. Is anyone willing to chime in with some feedback? I was told it was too long, but I am struggling with what to cut out. Any critique would be greatly appreciated!!!

PM if willing and I will send it. Thank you

Proctors: The proctors were great and very thorough about all of the rules. When you first walk into the building they check for phones and check your bag. Several people were sent away because of this.

Facilities:

Clean, easy to find facilities.

What kind of room:

Classroom

How many in the room: 9

Desks:

24 Large desks in room, with reclinable seats. 15 people didn't show up, so there were only 9 of us in the room, but if everyone had showed up, it still would not have been crowded at all.

Left-handed accommodation:

Yes, left handed desks

Noise levels:

No noise at all. Proctors even went around the room telling people to stop tapping their pencils on the desk

Parking:

Ample parking approximately 2 min walk to testing room

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

30 min

Irregularities or mishaps:

none

Other comments:

Out of the 2 places I took the LSAT, this is the only one I would recommend

Would you take the test here again?

If I had to, yes. Thankfully, I don't have to :)

Apologize in advance for the number of "should I cancel?" posts likely to arise after the score release yesterday, but I haven't been able to find any direction for my specific scenario. After taking the test in September and receiving a 169, I just received a 165 on the October exam. I completely understand that these are both great scores, but, given my situation and family obligations, I really need to strive for every single dollar I can possibly receive from law schools to alleviate the financial burden.

Question is - Do you think it would be smart to cancel the 165, given that I already have a higher score? Or is it not worth it with respect to how admissions officers will generally view a cancellation? Any help would be highly appreciated. Taking the test again next week and hoping/planning to score in the mid-170s.

Does anyone have any idea how many words the writing sample should be?

I have a subscription with 7Sage & was able to link my account since I got this account in June. But now it's saying I have to purchase another subscription?? I have been able to access drills since the beginning but, today it's giving me issues. Can someone assist me with this issue?

Proctors: there were 2

Facilities: restrooms

What kind of room: it was a classroom in the medical building.

How many in the room: there were about 30 kids

Desks: there were individual desks

Left-handed accommodation: yes

Noise levels: very quiet

Parking: very limited, get there early

Time elapsed from arrival to test: about 20 minutes.

Irregularities or mishaps: none

Other comments: great test center

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: I took it here on June.

Proctors: Three very nice facilitators from the college

Facilities: Very new, private test taking room. Everyone sat in small carrels/cubicles so you could not see anyone else or be distracted. Plenty of room on the desk for extra pencils, sharpener, watch. They would not let you keep a water bottle or kleenex on the desk though.

How many in the room: Around 20

Desks: Private full sized desks.

Left-handed accommodation: Yes

Noise levels: Very quiet

Parking: N/A

Time elapsed from arrival to test: We started promptly.

Irregularities or mishaps: None at all!

Other comments: Bathrooms close to testing room.

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely! But thankfully I don't need to :)

Date[s] of Exam[s]: October 2015

I'm planning on taking the September LSAT but would like to take a diagnostic exam before I start the bulk of my studying. Which practice test would people recommend I take as a diagnostic?

How would I calculate mine? Would someone be willing to help me. My general GPA wasn’t very great.

If I knew I wanted to go to law school in undergrad I would have stuck around longer to raise my cumulative before I graduated.

I had a mental health crisis one semester in undergrad due to a bad reaction to antidepressant medication, and tried to petition my university to remove them off my transcript with no luck.

I’m hoping my CAS gpa is better.

Hi all! Does anyone have any wrong answer journals or LSAT checklist templates for curriculum V2 (for those taking the LSAT after June 2024)? I would love to keep track of my answer choices and progress and just started the logical reasoning section. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!!

This is the one I was previously using, but no longer works since I switched to V2: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gpOWHerIw8RBo1PbgIJtN9wIpIKpTl3SFClYzaEBsIo/edit#gid=0

Proctors: Both were very professional. In my room which held about 30-40 students, there were two proctors.

Facilities: It was held in SU Sullivan Hall, their law school. Very nice and new building. Bathrooms throughout and close to classrooms.

What kind of room: Large classrooms, set up stadium style, with desks quite like tables, rolling chairs.

How many in the room: 30-40 students per classroom

Desks: Large table-like desks. Stadium seating. Seated every other chair, so there was an entire table for one tester, and space to spread out booklets, etc.

Left-handed accommodation: I am not a leftie, but with the seating arrangement, I am sure it would've been no problem.

Noise levels: SCARY SILENT.

Parking: Easy on a Saturday to find paid garage parking.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 1 hour, 15 minutes. 30 minutes to check in, standing in line, 45 waiting in the room to start testing after listening to instructions, had 3 late admitted arrivals.

Irregularities or mishaps: None.

Other comments: Great experience.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 12/5/15

Proctors: 6 to 7 Proctors all around the room

Facilities: Osgoode Law School

What kind of room: Mock Trial Room

How many in the room: approximately 100

Desks: Long forum desks with room for one person in between every test taker

Left-handed accommodation: N/A

Noise levels: Low (However, there was a ventilator running due to lack of windows to circulate air in the room which can be distracting to the ones close to it)

Parking: Available close by the building, $6-7 dollar flat rate on weekends

Time elapsed from arrival to test: approximately 25 to 30 mins. Smooth transition.

Irregularities or mishaps: A student didn't receive a writing section paper by the time we got to it and had to wait for the student to be accommodated. Many students felt that Section 3 was cut short so they allowed 2 minutes extra.

Other comments: Compared to a previous facility (Madonna Catholic Secondary School), much efficient administering of the test overall.

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: February 2016

Proctors: Pretty good overall. Stuck to time, no errors with the alarm (had my own watch so it wasn't really an issue). Friendly and gave clear instructions. Had spare pencils as well.

Facilities: OK. Pretty old building and the layout is somewhat confusing. Could only find one bathroom (can fit maybe 7 people at the same time).

What kind of room: auditorium with those swivel desks.

How many in the room: 25ish or so.

Desks: swivel type, not that much space. leave the booklet on your lap.

Left-handed accommodation: didn't notice any.

Noise levels: none, dead quiet.

Parking: Unknown. Looks like there were some street level parking. I took public transit.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 15 minutes. Proctor wanted to wait a bit for people to show up, we had about 1/3 absentee.

Irregularities or mishaps: none

Other comments: This place ran slightly cold. This was summer so AC was probably on full-blast. Pack a light sweater if testing in June.

Would you take the test here again? Yes because its easy to get to.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 2015

Proctors: Two at the front of the room.

Facilities: In the basement of the University Community Center. There's around 5-6 rooms in total, all full.

What kind of room: in basement, but bright and spacious. Air conditioning can be a bit cool so layer up.

How many in the room: around 20

Desks: around 15

Left-handed accommodation: not sure

Noise levels: Low in the room. But also depends on the people taking the test with you.

Parking: Paid parking available in the back of the community center.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 30 min. Test administered on time.

Irregularities or mishaps: None, except for proctor whispering to coordinate test procedure. Also, proctor was unfamiliar with procedure (she thought we couldn't go back to a prior page in the same section) so future test takers, please be familiar with the procedure.

Other comments: Lots of people (70+), so can be crowded during registration. If you're a student from uwo, very likely to bump into people you know, if you care about that.

Would you take the test here again? Yes.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: December 2015

Proctors: 2 proctors. Very good, only one minor complaint. See noise levels.

Facilities: Community college campus in suburbs

What kind of room: Classroom

How many in the room: 15

Desks: Not great -- the kind where the seats are connected to the desk. Not wobbly, decent desk size. Had to put the answer sheet behind the packet.

Left-handed accommodation: None.

Noise levels: Very low. The proctors whispered to each other at the very end of the test, which was annoying -- but I was the closest student to them. I doubt that anybody else in the classroom heard. Otherwise, they were very great.

Parking: Plenty of dedicated parking on campus, only a few minutes walking from the building where the test was given.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 5 hours. I was towards the end of the line to be placed into a classroom, there were others that finished over an hour before our classroom did. I was starving by the end of it.

Irregularities or mishaps: None.

Other comments: None.

Would you take the test here again? Yes.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: October 2015