They did release 'new' PTs that turned out to be reused versions of the old PTs, without the LG sections. I'm planning to take lsat before August so I'm mainly looking for 'actual' new PTs after the 2020s, there must be a pretty sizeable amount they've saved up so far + these old PTs have LG sections in them which probably are going to be abandoned altogether with the new system. Does anyone think they'll be releasing them anytime soon?

I've finished the core curriculum in its entirety, and now I'm wondering how I should be splitting up my time while drilling.

I'm aiming to take the June LSAT (the last current exam format that's offered for International test takers for this year) and so I only have about 2 months left.

I'm wondering how best to split my time amongst the different sections. While of course I want to dedicate the majority of time to my weakest areas, I also don't want to just completely bench the other sections.

Any advice how to best schedule studying, so that I maintain a solid exposure to each section?

Thanks!

Will 7 sage's explanation videos change in accordance with the new prep tests on LSAC? I know that the new prep tests use prior material, but I'd to know how the explanation videos will change once games are gone. Thank you.

As title says, at this point in my studying i am only really getting the 5 star difficulty questions wrong. When i take untimed tests, I'm scoring in the high 170s (ik this doesn't matter lol), but on timed, I'm still scoring in the mid 160s and sometimes high 160s because of these dang 5 star questions!

Btw I am taking August lsat, no LG.

What seems to be the preferred method of studying when you reach this point? I recently also got an lsat lab subscription so I have more explanations available for these 5 star questions (7sage is great, but many explanations are missing or seemed rushed through). But other than drilling 5 stars and the ones I've got wrong, and going over them until i am 100% confident why its right, is there anything else I can be doing? Maybe specific types of drills or like confidence drills? I honestly don't know. I'm getting so tired of months and months of studying. I also have the loophole book so maybe that for LR help? I know I'm capable of 170s but not sure what that final push I need is. I feel like I've hit a plateau.

Hi all,

I haven’t received a response from 7Sage about my switch to the V2 version of the core curriculum, so I’ll share my thoughts here. I am a little over 64% done with the LR section in the V1 version. I wrote down a list of the question types I did on V1 and what I have left. So I clicked the “complete” option on the ones I did for V1 on V2, and that left me with 6 question types compared to 9. Do you think I went about that correctly?

Also, the foundations section for V2 has a lot more lessons than V1, but I was thinking of clicking the “complete” option for the foundations section and just come back to specific lessons for questions I get wrong. Is that a valid approach?

Also, does V2 use more recent questions? What happened to the problem sets and using problems from tests 1-35?

I would appreciate any help!

Hi need some help here. JY mentioned that we should take a break between taking a practice test and doing a blind review but should we still do this for drills? I find that I'm too close to the questions to honestly blind review them after but don't want to stop my momentum (especially since I work full time and am studying whenever I can block time off in my schedule/weekends). Does anyone have tips for being efficient with studying and blind reviewing in a way that makes a true difference?

My app was placed on "reserve" which I don't know if its a fancy or nice way of saying waitlisted. Either way they gave me 2 weeks to upload a LOCI. I applied late in the cycle so not much new achievements to mention, and I already wrote a Why Essay. Should I reiterate or expand on those points again in the LOCI? What additional info should I include, and how long should it be? I read the 7sage articles but wanted some additional info.

For those who are in the 170+ range on LG, how do you know how many inferences to make up front? As JY says, it helps to have made a decent amount but sometimes I spend too long doing that and it hurts me on time and the questions ending up not needing all those inferences.

Does anyone know how likely it is to get a experimental section as your first section of the LSAT? I am worried when I take it that I will be hit with an experimental section at the beginning, and this will knock off the rest of my test.

Does anyone have a good estimate on this? I am trying to budget my line.

I am the type of person that really gets into details when doing questions.

Also, can you please tell me when I should do the drills? should I wait until entire LR section is completed or should I start drills when I start that section?

All my recent practice tests have been scores in the low 60s. On average I get -1/0 LG, -8/-5 LR, and -11/-8 RC. I have a learning disability related to reading which is why my RC are so low, and I get accommodations of extra time on the exam to compensate for that. My RC used to be a lot worse but with lots of practice I've really improved. On blind review I usually go up around 3 points total (with the majority of correction on my LR).

I'm trying to get at least a 165 on the exam but preferably higher, so I figured the best way to improve was working on my LR section more. And I'm really trying to improve before the June LSAT since it will be the last time to take it with LG which is my best section. But the problem is even though I get more questions right on blind review the next day, every time I take a practice test I'm still getting the same results. My last 3 PTs have been 161. Maybe it has something to do with time pressure or overload of questions one after another I'm not really sure. I also tried taking more time to really make sure I'm getting questions right before moving on but that strategy completely fails cause I just end up not finishing all the questions before time runs out.

I'm going to keep doing timed drills and practicing but does anyone have any other tips?

I've come across many posts by @akistotle they refer to as their "Cookie Cutter Reviews". These posts are super helpful and I'd like to read more of them. However, I can't figure out a way to effectively locate more of these specific posts. I initially found them in a comment under a video explanation, so searching the discussion forum obviously wouldn't locate. Would appreciate #help with this!

Link to example of cookie cutter review comment: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-55-section-3-question-22/

Took a drill today and noticed the drilling setup has seemingly changed. Has the feature been removed that allows one to click the x to the right of an AC to eliminate?

Hi all,

I’m sorry about all the discussion topic posts! When you finish the CC, which PT you recommend starting with? I plan to take the LSAT post-Logic Games so would it have to be the first PT in the reorganized edition?

I know from friends that there is strategy to approaching each section- whether thats numbering logic games on difficulty and taking them in that order or approaching LR questions to save time. Does anyone know if 7sage has guidance on this?

I've started with Mike Kim's Trainer and got through about 1/3 of the book (skipping LG for the new format). My diagnostic PT was a 160, which is a decent start, but now I'm wondering if I should switch to 7sage's core curriculum and finish that as soon as possible. Given where I'm at and the remaining time I'm at, how should I prioritize the CC, the trainer, and PTs?

For example, should I do 1 PT per week along with the CC and drop the trainer entirely? Or should I finish the CC entirely first then start doing PTs?

Thanks!

I'm going through the "Skill Builder - Group 2 Translations" unit of the Conditional and Set Logic section in the Core Curriculum and I'm having some trouble understanding why contrapositives were not used for questions 7.1-7.5. Was looking through the forums and comments under that unit and couldn't find much that explained why contrapositives weren't being used here. I did, however, see a comment that mentioned contrapositives not being used because the conditional language was used to express a potential causal relationship (more than a sufficient-necessary relationship). However, it still seems that those statements are conditional with comparative and causal elements (at least based on the explanations provided for those statements and how I and others interpreted them).

So would statements indicating there being causal and/or comparative elements not require contrapositives, especially if the statements can also be translated into lawgic and indicate there being a sufficient/necessary relationship??

My apologies in advanced if this type of question is meant to go under that unit and not in the discussion forum. It's just that there wasn't much of a response (if any) from the tutors about this.

Hello everyone. Since my diagnostic, until now I have gone up about 13 points but I am still yet to reach my goal of 165. I have taken countless PTs and have been drilling almost every day for the past 6 months. My biggest problem is managing my time. In the LR sections, I always finished with 5 unanswered questions. On the RC, I only get to finish 3 passages. I know some say that there is only so much more you can improve after having studied for a long time, but I refuse to believe that I have plateaued. There has to be a way.

Does anyone have suggestions for how to finish on time with accuracy?

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I live in Downtown LA and wanted to see if anyone wanted to meet up to study on weekends or even weekdays. We can do online too!

Hello Everyone,

I have taken basically all of the preptests from 60-94 within the past 2-3 years. I am taking the June 2024 LSAT because i want to get one last shot with the logic games (currently my best section).

I want to keep doing prep tests till the test in June. But all of the tests past 94 do not have logic games in 7Sage. What should i do? is there a way to switch it to 3 sections after 94 and do a random logic game section as my 4th section?

#help #admin

Hey I am very interested in joining and just want an idea on how to even approach this course. Currently I am thinking about going through all the curriculum(I have 8 hours a day to spend on this), taking a diagnostic test, seeing where I am at, going to sign up for either a class or coach version, take drills and get a custom study plan. Is this a good plan, what plan do you suggest? I also want to know how do i know when to take my prep tests, do you guys offer any type of timing or anything so i can know whether or not I am taking an exam to early or too late. Also what is the difference between the coach plan and a private tutor. I mainly just want to have a structured plan (without me having to guess when I have to take a exam etc) while also getting real feedback?

I just took a practice test on LSAC Law Hub, and I am reviewing my score. I swear it marked some of them wrong that I actually got right. It even says I selected answers that I had crossed out. It is too many questions for it to be me mis-clicking. For this reason, I think my score should have been higher. Is anyone else having this problem?

TLDR: Stuck in 155 rut for months, despite 171 BR, want to break into 160s, wondering whether something fundamental is missing or its just be like that. Highly appreciate any insight!

Study Time so far:

Studied full time mid July to start of September 2023, took 2 PTs got 142, 145, was using 2015 Kaplan book, good foundation for logic but meh strategies

September-October: Break

November 2023-Mid January 2024: studied full time with 7sage Tutor and Live classes, PTing 153-157, BR 161-167. Took Jan LSAT, got 150, # of practice hours hit 300 a few days before. Improvement from diagnostic which is nice, and even now feel like I've learned so much.

February to now (May): Studying part-time (9-15 hrs a week, 450 study hours so far) while working, still PTing 155 but doing August 2024 format and went from BR 165 a month ago to now BR 171, so understanding has been improving at least. Sometimes skim LSAT Trainer for exercises and tips, and focused heavily on 7sage curriculum, found Phenomenon-Hypothesis strategies extremely useful. Worse questions usually are Flaw and RC Sci/Law passages with ambiguous author opinion.

Currently focusing on perfecting LR 10 in 10 drills for a section's first 10 questions, and can get 80-90% right, but realistically need 100%. Working on paraphrasing questions, and being efficient and accurate for easy to medium questions, especially for flaw Qs, as I stand to gain the most points there. I also think practicing staying as calm as possible during sections is starting to help, because I tend to make mistakes on questions I find really easy without the time pressure, and rush in general.

Consistently 8-10 wrong on LR, but 7-12 on RC. Have got only 2 wrong on RC or LR sometimes but each on different PTs, would love to get both at once lol.

Considering everything, with a BR 171 and a 155 actual, it seems there's potentially huge room to improve timed, and I appreciate the skills I'm learning through the LSAT, but its still somewhat demotivating being stuck in the mid-150s since November, especially with an improving understanding through BR. Granted, studying has been part-time and LR/RC is slower to improve than LG, so who knows. Unsure what to do, as I consistently BR, journal in-depth about right/wrong answers, ways to improve, what I misunderstood. I try to only do a PT when I feel I've worked on a large number of drills for problem areas. Want to say its the time pressure stress, but still get cooked on harder LR sections even when super calm and highly accurate with the easier questions, but we'll see. Have considered more tutoring/live classes.

Highly value anyone's thoughts!

Thanks for reading!

Hi! I literally just began studying and am thinking of buying the power score LSAT bibles to supplement my studying. I’m planning on taking the test after August, so should I only get the RC and LR bibles and not the LG bible? Is there any chance that logic games will be included in some capacity even if the official section is gone (and therefore it would make sense to get familiar with the material)?

Hi everyone, I feel like I'm at an intersection in my LSAT studying journey and I need some advice!

So before we start here are some facts:

1- I only started studying for the LAST in the last 3 months.

2- English is my second language.

3- My undergrad was very technical & quantitative.

So early February I took a diagnostic test and scored 143. I tried to follow Khan Academy's curriculum, but it didn't feel structured enough for me, so I switched to 7Sage about two months ago. On average I'm putting around 8 hours a week into LSAT studying, and I'm planning to write the LSAT in August. My goal (although might be ambitious) is to score at least 170.

Two weeks into 7Sage and after I finished the foundation module, I took another PT and scored 149 & BR 151. Two weeks later, I was about 30% through the LR module, I took another PT and scored 156 and BR 158. This last weekend, I am a little over 60% through the LR module, I scored 153 and BR 162.

In RC, I'm facing the same issue like everyone else, TIME! I consistently find myself with only 1 min left for passage #4. However, for the three passages that I actually have enough time to read through. I'm scoring fairly well (I think). For example, my last PT I got 16 questions right and only 3 wrong, that's for the first three passages in the first RC section, and these are fairly consistent with the results of the other RC sections.

In LR, I find myself running out of time but because I know I have a terrible time management strategy of skipping harder questions so I end up spending 3+ mins on one question, and then not have time for the last 5 question in that section that I think I would have gotten, at least some of them right. Additionally, I found myself getting stagnant in my LR progress in the last few weeks.

My questions are:

1- Would it be wise to stop studying for LR for a bit and focus on RC? My reasoning is that I think there's a big room for improving my RC skills (considering I've never studied for it), and even a marginal improvement would boost my score a few points. Also, I'm hoping that a break from LR might help me get a fresh perspective when I return to it after two weeks.

2- Considering my tight timeline to write the LSAT, I was thinking of getting private tutoring in about a month from now to hopefully help me boost my score, do you think that's worth it? From the people who did get private tutors how was your experience?

3- Are my numbers good considering all the facts mentioned above? Is 170 an attainable goal for me? I know I need to improve my studying strategy and I need to put in more hours drilling and not just going through the curriculum. The question is, by how much do I need to increase the number of weekly studying hours in order to get to 170 by August!

If you made it this far, thank you and I hope my writing was comprehendible!