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With score release being today, I'm expanding the original scope of discussion for this. So we will discuss how to respond to disappointing scores as well as considering cycle delays. Hope to see some folks tomorrow.

Choosing to delay a cycle is a hard decision. It's one that makes many of us feel like we've failed. Often, though, we just underestimated the full extent of the undertaking. Law school is hard. It's really hard. And with the possible exception of the MCAT--and even then, for very different reasons--the LSAT is the hardest standardized test there is. So if you're facing a decision about what to do moving forward, you are not alone. I faced the same thing, made a hard call, and everything worked out fine. The decision that was right for me may not be the decision that's right for you. Each situation is a little different, and none of us will be balancing all the same factors the same. But if you're facing down the end of this cycle and aren't sure how to proceed, I hope you'll join me. Everything will be okay. You will figure it out. If my example can be of any help, I am glad to share my experience.

Thursday Dec. 1, 7pm CST

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Hi everyone,

I'm a 173 scorer (4 months of study) and now tutoring students part-time. I offered a bunch of pro-bono tutoring this month and had a great response with almost to two dozen sessions.

I'm offering up some more sessions to help people get their studying on the right track. If you have questions about how to use your time effectively, building strategies for specific sections, or anything else big-picture LSAT study - feel free to reach out.

You got this (3(/p)

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I have thought a lot , over the past year, about the finitude of official lsat questions published by lsac, and the finitude of practice tests. i think theres only 92 or 93 prep tests. What happens if i run out of all of these before I arrive at my goal scores? I have tried to "pretend to forget" how to play certain games , but it doesnt work. i immediately remember how to play the game, the major inferences etc. same thing with logical reasoning questions. even if i havent seen the question in 8 months, i immediately remember the right answer. this is a bad feeling because i didnt earn the right answer. and its a terrible way to get a ballpark diagnostic in my opinion. and its also bad preparation for my REAL test, where i will be faced with all new games and questions.

how do you approach the reality of finite lsat prep test resources? manhattan prep creates bunches of logic games from scratch which is cool, but does anything like that exist for logical reasoning? do any companies create logical reasoning questions that i can try to solve with fresh eyes?

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I heard that the Logic Games would be removed in 2023, does anyone know which month or if this is even true? I plan to take my LSAT in February and have been studying for a whole year. I always get -0 on LG and it is my best section that allows me to get a good score after months and months of foolproofing. I read some sources saying June 2023 and some saying January 2023, but also all the sources I read were from 2019 so i'm not even sure if they're accurate. Please lmk if you have any info on this.

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I've been plateauing in the low 160s - mid 160s for almost 6months. I went through all the popular prep books and have started re-reading them recently to check if I missed any fundamentals. To be honest, I think I am weak in all three sections. Usually, when I drill (timed mode), I don't get as many questions wrong as I do in PTs. For example, when I recycle my old PTs, including those I don't even remember the questions, I usually get 0-2 wrong in games, 3-5 wrong in LR, and 4-6 wrong in the RC. For the PTs I do remember, I tend to score better.

Whenever I try new PTs, the problem is that my score always returns to the low 160s. I missed so many questions that I think I could have gotten right. Recently, I get around 160-164 as scaled score while my blind review score is around low 170s. I feel extremely pressured when solving new PTs, but I don't know why this is constantly happening. Is it just because I didn't practice enough? I get disappointed in myself every day and feel totally lost. What should I do to break out of this endless plateau?

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Hey everyone, i'm currently scoring in the low to mid 160's and i'm aiming to increase it to the upper 160's. I always BR there and definitely think it's possible. However, I have a limited amount of prep tests and only 10 weeks til my test. For those who overcame this hurdle, can you give some advice on what you did differently or started doing that got you there. Whether it is new drills, how you started approaching certain sections, study tips, etc.. I'm open to any suggestion and would highly appreciate it!

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Hey all,

I took a diagnostic a few months ago and have taken maybe 4 PTs total. I am in no rush to take PTs but take a PT when I am too bored of CC.

One of my problems is I can't finish more than ~12 Qs per timed section (minus LG lol I finish way less here). A month ago my PT score was 135 --> 151 BR, and yesterday it was 132 --> 152 BR. I'm not happy with either, as my goal is 170 and hope to take the LSAT July 2023. I also work part-time and have obligations, so I study/review CC every other day for ~ 3 hours.

My questions are: is it normal to see very slow change? Should I focus on and complete CC before taking PTs? It's also hard to find motivation when I'm sucking so hard. Any and all advice welcome (3(/p)

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Hi all,

I would love some advice from the community on when to take my first actual LSAT. I work full time, so I’ve been working through the CC for the past 3 months. I just took my first PT since the diagnostic, and I actually got my goal score, which I’m sure I can improve on. Of course I need to keep PTing to be sure I can maintain the score, but assuming I can do that over the course of 3-4 weeks….

I’m trying to decide whether to sign up for 1/2022 or 2/2022; I don’t plan to apply until the next cycle. I’m torn between wanting to keep up momentum for January, or continuing to PT until February and doing the best I possibly could, though I’d risk losing some momentum…

What do others think is the right timeline?

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Hi everyone!

I just started the curriculum about 2 weeks ago. Right now, I am finishing up the Main Point and Conclusion section, and I was wondering when would be a good time to begin taking full length Practice Tests. Should I wait a while longer until I get past some of the other logic sections, or jump right in?

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I took diagnostic test 2 months ago, 151

I took 1st prep test 2 weeks ago, 149

I took 2nd prep test 2 weeks ago, 152,

I took 3rd prep test today, 153

My goal is 165. I was always super excited to take prep tests, because I felt i learned a lot and would expect significant improvement. but the results were always disappointing.

Anyone has similar experiences? In 3 months, there is very little progress if any. Is this typical?

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Wanted to see if anyone has advice for improving one's mental game on the LSAT. I'm working through the back end of the curriculum now and have consistently found that my head is not in the right place when I do problem sets. Specifically, I notice that I a) misread often (mistake a 'some' for a 'most' or think the stimulus asks for a sufficient assumption when it, in fact asks for a necessary assumption), b) refer back to the stimulus or game rules in an almost paranoid way which keeps me from actually reasoning and performing the task assigned by the stimulus, and c) have a pretty constant 'under the gun' feeling during problem sets. My brain is foggy and unfocused in a way that keeps me from doing the precise mental work of the LSAT.

Some of this is a reading skills issue. I've heard of ways to work on this specifically, like the basic translation drill from Loophole LR Prep and Powerscore's practice of memorizing all the game rules before beginning. If anyone has any feedback or ideas on implementing these, I would welcome suggestions.

I do think there's something going on below the technical level, here. Like every other 7Sager, I'm putting lots of pressure on myself to perform well. Pressure can be a good, motivating thing, but when my brain sends 'on the Titanic and the last lifeboat just left' signals while I'm attempting to click the correct buttons on a laptop screen, it's gone too far. A simple, if unhelpful, way to remedy this feeling is of course to perform better on the LSAT, but progress is slow for most people (myself included) and attaching worth to performance is generally an unsustainable practice.

Again, I welcome advice or thoughts on any of this. I'll add that I think these are typical struggles in this community, and I have it better than many other 7Sagers, so I'm not posting this as a woe-is-me thread. The hope is that this is a manageable, common problem worth systematically addressing. I couldn't link it but the thread below offers some great mindset advice for the LSAT. I read it as a warm-up for studying some days. If you haven't yet, do take a look.

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2895/the-most-important-lsat-prep-decision-you-will-make

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Hey guys! I took the November LSAT not sure what my score is gonna be tbh, but I know I have can do greta so I have the January LSAT to take if things don't work out. I think the best last option now to score well in January is to get a tutor. Does anyone have any recommendations of anyone they may know? I really want to just score in the 160s

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Hi! does rescheduling/postponing a test you have already registered for look bad on your application? I plan to take the LSAT (second attempt) in January 2023 but would like to postpone if it won't negatively affect my app.

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Before I sign out from this family of network, I want to first thank J.Y. for his divinity. He will forever be a man I respect deeply, whose guidance through this LSAT journey has been like a powerful torchlight in darkness.

I got a score I am proud of, and that would not have been possible without J.Y. (It was not working out at the gym or drinking coffee that led to my score increase. :) A million thanks, J.Y.!!!

I also thank the community here for their support. I met great friends through this channel, without whom not.

7Sage helped me a ton with the LSAT, and I will be recommending this prep course for those who struggle with the test.

If you need to reach me, I can be contacted at my email address [redacted]

See you all in law school or beyond.

Eze

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Lots of applications require separate essays for each Scholarship.

NYU app has like 20 different schollys listed in the app each requiring an essay.

Berkeley has at least 3 different scholarship essays

How are those who are applying for Schollys handling these? Are you just checking the box that you're applying without submitting the essays?

Or can one simply point them to PS?

It seems like there's no downside to applying for EACH scholarship even though the chances are small of getting them. Anyone in the same boat?

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I took the LSAT twice (cancelled one, kept one) and I'm planning on taking it one last time (fingers crossed!) in February. I didn't finish the core curriculum before taking either test, but I'm wondering if it's worth going back and trying to get through everything in full if I already have a pretty decent understanding of the basics, plus the extra experience of 2 real tests. Is there a good way to approach this so I don't have to start completely from the beginning?

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Is this happening for anyone else? I just recently faced this problem for the past two weeks and it is really annoying not being able to create drills on specific problems I need to work on. I have already removed caches and cookies from chrome. It is just the LR that is not working for me, but RC and LG works fine.

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