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Anyone have advice on determining when a flaw question has jumped from a correlation to a cause and effect argument? Each flaw question I do with correlation and causation in the mix, I never can identify when the AC is 'infers cause from mere correlation'. Any help is appreciated! :)

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I am signed up to take the June LSAT and I am behind on my course. I am currently 77% of the way through the CC meaning that I have 50 hours left to finish it. I have not done any PT's since my diagnostic. I have about a month until my test. Do I push through the 50 hours of CC or do I jump into PT's and do that for the next month?

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Hi everyone, I've been rolling around in this question for a very long time and still have some fundamental questions so would be great if someone can confirm my thinking/help answer those questions. Thanks in advance!

Stimulus breakdown:

P: The robots that are being designed are the ones that can be maintained with the least expensive, least skilled human labor possible

C: So robots won't eliminate demeaning work, they're just gonna basically substitute one "demeaning job" for another

In more human terms, the argument is saying that if there are 100 people assembling car parts in a factory (assuming that we call that a demeaning job), then the addition of robots will basically take those 100 jobs and turn it into 100 jobs of monitoring the robots (which they also assume is a demeaning job).

My question: It seems like this question makes us assume that "hazardous and demeaning work" is the same as "least expensive, least skilled human labor." Is this a flaw or is this something we could be allowed to assume?

Answer Choices:

A) Using 2-step test, this does happen in that he ignores that some jobs might be eliminated if the factories don't use robots. But this is not the flaw because even if he did consider that, it doesn't hit on the conclusion that robots are really just substituting and not reducing the net # of demeaning jobs

B) Not descriptively accurate, so fails step 1

C) Descriptively accurate - he doesn't specify what the engineers think but fails step 2 because that's not an issue. Even if he hits on the sentiments of the engineer, it doesn't weaken his argument that the robots are just subbing demeaning jobs and not even decreasing the net #

D) Not descriptively accurate - there's not any fear that's happening here

E) Descriptively accurate and if he did acknowledge that it's possible that 1 robot could replace the 100 shitty jobs in the care factory with just 1, then his conclusion that "robots will not eliminate demeaning work" no longer holds.

My question here is though, is it okay that a weakening answer basically completely destroys the argument? I know we can't attack the premise but not sure where that stands for the conclusion/broader argument.

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I’m having a really difficult time with LR. Is there an approach that works for you when taking the test under timed conditions? For instance, MBT means do this; MSS means look for this. Sort of a guide or plan of action for each type of question.

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(PT9 S4- #13)

J: worked 3 years and will vacation 4 weeks this year

Everyone who worked 1-4 years entitled to 3 week vacation

Apply half of unused vacation to next year.

So it makes sense to me that J had two weeks left over from last year so she got half of that this year

(A) J did not use two weeks in which she was entitled to

(C) J only used one week in which she was entitled to

What is the difference between the two and how can I distinguish them?

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I get the questions correct under timed conditions, however, when I do blind review I change my answers from correct to incorrect.

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Quick question -

I've just finished the grouping games intro videos on the CC. After watching JY walk through the solutions, I'm wondering, do we always just notate the necessary conditions on the gameboards?

For example, game 4 on PT26 (the lawmakers and scientists with one chairperson) has two not both rules. G -> /V and H -> /Y. Instead of notating G or H in, JY notates /V or /Y in, making the rules irrelevant since the necessary is satisified and the sufficient condition falls away.

In the game with the two boats with three adults and five children, there is a F -> G rule, and the contrapositive is /G -> /F. Instead of notating F or /G, JY instead notates G into the diagram. Once again, the necessary is satisfied and the sufficient condition falls away.

Is this what I'm supposed to be doing in my gameboard setup? Because if so, this might cut down some time while I'm doing games and even get my head straight when I'm doing the games.

If anyone has any advice on this, please let me know. I'm struggling most with just the gameboard set up (for most games) - as soon as I accomplish that, the questions are ridiculously easy.

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I've completed Logic Game PT 1 - 52. Would you recommend I continue to do more recent PTs or redo the one I've already completed? I miss about 7-8 questions for a complete set (4 games) with timing (30 mins). When doing a blind review, I still miss 2-3 questions.

I'm preparing for the 2022 June LSAT. Any advice would be appreciated!

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I submitted my paperwork for accommodations on April 7th (for the June test). This whole time it has been "under review" on LSAC and I looked today and there was nothing indicating that I had submitted paperwork. Ugh...I'm super frustrated. I emailed LSAC so I hope they get back to me soon. I never got an email indicating the I had submitted paperwork for accommodations. It just kept saying that they were under review so I assumed they received them. Has this happened to anyone before?

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For those who have fool proofed, did you fool proof games that you completed in under the target time on the first try? So far I've still been doing each game 4 times (following the Pacifico method) regardless of if I completed it in under the target time on the first try, but I'm not sure if it's necessary.

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With this question, I chose (C) over (D) due to 'becoming warmer'.

As (b) is eliminated with the same reason, I thought this whole passage doesn't talk about the future, but only focuses on what happened in the past 100 years. I got the detail that "greenhouse is the major cause" should be included, but (c) was more compelling to me as 'becoming warmer' seemed like a huge red flag for me.

I don't know why I get confused and waste time on relatively easy and clear-cut questions for others.

Overall, I think I'm too obsessed with details and words at this point. I tried to build the habit of not loosing details and tried to balance between holding on to the main structure, but now I feel like I have a serious problem of just maybe reading skill in general..?

Hope someone could give advice on my thought process...Really need help to improve on RC

Huge thanks in advance!!

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Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official April 2022 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the April LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Tuesday, May 3rd.

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  • the section on Cambodian woodworking really had me second guessing everything.

  • a few of the games had me confused but think I was okay.

  • overall fair test, struggled on a couple of RC passages (damn you polymorphic molecules) but think I was okay hoping for a -2 or -3

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  • the passage on Cambodian woodworking didn’t count.

  • I had Cambodian woodworking, Fireflies, and rice farming in Iowa so Lithuanian Lithograph Libraries was experimental.

  • fair test but struggled on a couple RC passages (polymorphic molecules anyone? Thankfully it didn’t count). Don’t want to take again in June

  • Anyone know if Polygamist Societies in the 1880s was real or experimental?

  • Please tell me that polygon dice game didn’t count

    • Good luck to everyone taking the April LSAT!

    **Please keep all discussions of the April 2022 LSAT here!**(/red)

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    Hello all,

    I was wondering if anybody could give me advice on Logic Games. I’ve been taking PTs everyday since April 11. And my test date is June 11. I’ve been seeing a slow incline and sometimes I’ll stagnate in scores. But I think it’s because my LG section is always really poor and it brings down my score.

    Are their any strategies y’all would reccomend me do? Should I focus on LG during the week and then take PTs on the weekend?

    Since my Best score so far on PTs is just shy of 8 points of my target score for the school I am looking at. So I think if I can just improve on LG section, then I’ll be able to get it on test day.

    *PS, any of y’all watching the new season of Better Call Saul so far? Cuz I’m loving it! Haha

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    I missed the March PowerScore Crystal Ball and on the recent LSAT podcast they said the predictions might be helpful for April as well. Please comment if you have any tips or suggestions noted down from the Crystal Ball!

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    Hello everyone!

    First time LSAT taker here. Taking the April LSAT on Friday morning. My RC and LR scores are reasonable enough, but I’m getting killed on LGs, mostly due to timing with constructing diagrams. Pretty last minute…but does anyone have any suggestions for the best method to fix this? What’s the best resource to utilize for strictly LGs? I’ve been focusing on practice LSATs and volume of questions…is this efficient? Thank you!

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    Monday, Apr 25, 2022

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    June 2022 LSAT

    I'm registered for the June 2022 exam but I want to delay it to August/Sept but it doesn't have the option for me to to change dates? Does anyone know why is it that we can't see or choose later dates?

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    I started 7 Sage back in September of 2021 and it has been interesting to say the least. I decided to take on the course curriculum full time. I have followed and finished the core curriculum full time since September 2021 and am EXTREMELY dissatisfied. How can 7 sage possibly justify only a 12 point increase (136 to a 149) in 7 months of full time practice? In fact, in the past two months I have actually gone down 1 point and literally can't beat my best from two months ago. I put my trust in them and all I hear back is robotic responses. "Study harder", "Try our this and that at $$$$ amount", "Trust the process", "Blind Review". I understand that people learn at their own pace but there is a difference between difficulty of a subject and a complete diminish in return. I have come to the realization that 7 sage will keep me swimming in circles by repeating the same instruction that got me there in the first place. I train just as hard if not harder than many 170+ scorers and my time stamps show it. Unfortunately, I don't have a white picket fence life that allows me to write a check to 7 sage for $3,000 for for the best instruction tailored to me.

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