Hi so I’ve been practicing for the LSAT going on my third serious try and unfortunately the previous takes were both sat for during the pandemic which in turn is the LSAT-Flex exam. After several Prep-Tests in simulated Flex mode I’ve come to notice a recurring pattern of scoring 144-146 average- despite my better 151 performance on the full length exam. My theory at least to my premonition at best is that with the removed additional Logical Reasoning Section (the section I perform best on), could it be the case that the points accumulated are not being attributed to my overall Flex score? In other words how well of a theory is it that the curved score I am receiving is reflective of my “actual LSAT performance” granted I don’t under perform. Just a question I’d like to discuss because it is really been deteriorating my confidence walking into what will be my FOURTH LSAT take. My first score being in the low 131s (full LSAT without adequate prep), then 139 then 141 (both flexs) , when as described previously my practice score on the full length exam is 151-154 average. Please help-as I’m reaching the end of my rope.

I'm taking LSAT for the first time in April, and how does the signup process works for time slots? Do you have to create a ProctorU account? How difficult is it to get the time slot that you want? Thanks!

Typically, we fool proof for logic games, but is there any way we can methodically be successful at LR?

Can someone clarify what the hell "S" is saying in the first sentence of the stimulus? I understand the rest of the reasoning, but I can't break this sentence down in a way that is meaningful. What is meant by "threatened?" If the trend may not be real, why would it be premature to halt it? I'm trying to understand the perspective from which "S" begins the argument.

Thanks in advance!

#HELP

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Hello everyone! I am in need of some insight into how to do better on the LR section of the exam. It seems to not yet be "clicking" for me on LR, but I have seen some improvement. It's the harder question types that confuse me. I usually choose the trap answers for the harder questions. Does anyone have any advice/tips/resources or a general approach for the LR section. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you all!

Hi,

I've recently started doing the newer pts between 70-80 and seen a significant drop in my LR score which I can probably fix through pt exposure but a more consistent issue with LR has been that I am only able to get questions right after a lot of review but under timed conditions this is really tough for me. Partially because I take time to warm up but also because I have no strategy on how to attack answer choices. I know there are no shortcuts to getting better at LR but I would still appreciate if someone can advise me on how to attempt the section? Do people read all answer choices from beginning to end?

My current strategy is to highlight conclusions if I can find one and make a predication (which doesn't come naturally to me so I often find myself moving to the answer choices without a prediction under timed conditions). My average LR score is -9 which can go down to a -3 after BR.

Can someone explain how you know ABCDE are the bottom of the game board? I used the other game pieces and missed nearly all of them

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Hello , Is there wording that I should look for in the stimulus that lets me know when to use grouping or chart techniques ? During PT85 I initially drew a game as a chart only later to recover and find out that It would be much suitable as a grouping game. I would like to avoid this error in the future any guidance is welcomed !

Really struggling with those curve breaker LR questions. My score ranges from a -8 to a -6. Would ideally be fine with a -3 or 4 on the test, but really hoping to get some help. Happy to talk about tutoring options.

Hi there! I'm working on my AR and am having a hard time understanding this question and how to set up. Would appreciate any support.

The questions in this exercise are based on the set of conditions described below. You may find it useful to draw a rough diagram.

Beginning of reading passage.

A train makes five trips around a loop through five stations—P, Q, R, S, and T, in that order—stopping at exactly three of the stations on each trip. The train must conform to the following conditions:

The train stops at any given station on exactly three trips, but not on three consecutive trips.

The train stops at any given station at least once in any two consecutive trips.

Hello folks,

I have a quick question regarding the third passage of PT18. I don't quite get question #17. The answer is C, which states that the council "did not have complete autonomy in governing the Cherokee Nation." But how are we supposed to infer this fact? Where is it written? I understand that the second half of the answer matches with what we could expect, but I couldn't pick this answer given that I had no basis to believe that the council did or didn't have complete autonomy in governing the Cherokee Nation.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)

Cheers,

KT

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Hi,

Hopefully someone can help me out. I'm very confused by this question. I have no idea how the logic in this question works. I thought it was about Dolores' ability to fulfil a need, which made E tempting, but I'm struggling to figure out what makes A-D different from each other and what is actually going on.

Thanks!

Hi,

I am wondering how would you negate the sentence per title ("Sentence')?

I had three candidates, as follows, in mind, but I don't know which one is most correct:

Among them, 1. seems the most correct but doesn't further elucidate the Sentence. Both 2. & 3. make the Sentence clearer, yet I can't be sure which one is correct or a proper negation according to logic.

Could someone please explain or share your insights?

Thank you for your help.

Hi all,

I'm really struggling with In and Out Logic Games!I'm able to write out all the rules but with connecting them and contra posing I get a little lost and waste so much time trying to complete these types of games. Is anyone able to tutor me? I'm on Pacific Standard time! :D

Hey everybody! I am slotted to take the LSAT in April, and I'm feeling a little stressed out. I was hoping to push back my test date to June, but I just got an internship that is going to require me to move across the country. I've been study for 4-5 months now, and I think that maybe I should just go ahead and take the April one before I have to leave for my internship.

It would really help me out if someone has advice for last minute studying given these time constraints (important to note: I am also in college...). I think I'll have to take it twice regardless, but I don't want to just throw away my chances of a decent score in April. Plz help!

After 2 years of studying for this crazy exam, I have always been so bad at weakening questions. Sometimes doing problem sets untimed and still getting weakening questions incorrect and continuously falling for the trap answers. I feel like weakening ACs are so subjective and ambiguous. Even when I dissect the stimulus and separate the premises, find the assumptions that connect the premises and conclusion, I still get it wrong because I feel like there is SO much reasoning involved in weakening questions that it is nearly impossible to do under timed conditions. Surprisingly I am pretty good at strengthening questions. So I'm in a bit of a paradox lol

Powerscore says to focus on the conclusion, 7sage says focus on the assumption. Both forms of advice have not really helped me thus far.

Any advice? This exam is so frustrating lol

Thanks Y'all !

When I don't have time to take a full practice test, I'd like to just take a practice section. For LG I've been creating Problem Sets with the 4 games from a particular test, which works great. But when I try to create a Problem Set for LR, it calculates my time for the section based on the number of questions rather than giving me the flat 35 minutes. Is there a better way to drill LR sections?

Hi guys are we supposed to be taking all the practice sets at the end of LR or taking one and saving them to come back to. I did the first two and i was going to finish it but then i read discussion posts saying not to do that.

Hi guys,

Is it recommended to do ALL the problem sets in the LG section of the CC or should I save some for later? For the LR section, I only did about every other problem set and that seemed to work well for me, but I'm not sure if I should handle LGs differently?

Thanks!

I’ve been doing some logic games in my head, the level doesn’t really bother me, but in/outs and sequencing are easier to do than grouping, I’ve been doing this out of laziness but also as mental test. Obvi I won’t be doing this on test day and be assured I’m good at splitting/representing rules. And for the most part I get these games perfect, but I’m not really sure how long they take me Bc I don’t time myself, some i finish rather quickly and some take me a while. I think it’s helping my short term memory and making me quicker w forming inferences, what do you guys think about this strategy should I keep going or maybe not?

Hey everyone,

There have been some really helpful posts on here and I'm looking for some advice on my personal situation. Longer post, so I appreciate anyone who has input!

I've been waitlisted from a bunch of T14 schools this cycle after applying with a very high 160s score from more than a year ago. I sort of winged it studying on my own for that first take and I know I can score higher. In that round of studying, I used most of the PTs in the 50s as well as some scattered tests in the 60s, 70s, and PT 87 because I didn't really understand the whole idea that recent tests are more important.

I figured the best way to improve my application while on the waitlist, or help with reapplying next cycle, was to retake, so I started studying again in February aiming for a retake in either April or June. I'm registered for April, but it's coming up on the date change deadline and I need to make a decision.

Right now, my average over my last 10 Preptests (five tests across the 50s, 60s, and 70s and 80-84) is just above 173. I still have 85, 86, 88, 89, May 2020 clean. RC had been my weakest section last time around, but practicing the memory method with lots of drilling I'm consistently down to 1-3 incorrect per section. For LR I'm at a solid 0-1 incorrect. The problem is that all of a sudden, on some of the most recent tests, I'm missing a full logic game and that's taking a big bite out of my practice test scores as well as that 10 test average - i.e. a 166 on #81 and a 169 on #83 where I completely balked on one game each. I sort of panicked in both of those cases when I was obviously missing an inference, but was able to fix everything on Blind Review relatively quickly. Still, those tests are so recent that I'm worried I could screw up a LG section on the actual test and mess up my overall score if I retake in April.

I'm taking this week to go back over Grouping Games (these seem to be part of the problem) and drilling harder problem sets along with as many Miscellaneous Games as I can find. I've also foolproofed all of the games sections I've taken since February. I'm thinking about taking PT 85 and 86 before the 27th (date change deadline) to make a final decision on April.

Alternatively, I could switch to June and really spend a lot of time on LG in April and May, finish all of PTs 60-80, and then come back to those last five recent tests. I am worried a June score won't be as helpful with the waitlist this cycle, but it will still be useful if I end up reapplying. Of course, I also want to avoid getting a lower or comparable score on the April test.

Any thoughts on April vs. June and what to prioritize for either one?

On the LSAT how should we interpret the word several?

What does several mean numerically?

How can I take LG in PTs without influencing other sessions, I want to take complete LG questions like the normal exam, but I don't know how to take only the session I want in the PTs, the results and timing without affecting other sessions

Hi! I'm taking the LSAT in April, and I'm trying to think ahead to what day/time of day I'll want to take the test when it comes time to sign up. Does anyone have any advice/recommendations? I've read before that it's better to take exams in the morning, but I'm also not a morning person so I'm not sure that's what will be best for me. Would love to hear about other people's experiences with the flex! :)

Edit: I guess it would help if I actually had a typical time of day that I take PTs

I have been at it with the games for about 2.5 months now. If it helps, I follow the pacifico strategy. I can do most of PT 1-23 with my worst being around ~5 on time or with time left. However, when I take a new game, even if I know how to complete it, it takes a long time and I end up missing half the questions. Hence, my timing is the same as it was when I first started fool-proofing even though I "feel" that my inferencing skills have gotten much stronger. I am trying not "hate" this section, but as someone who doesn't enjoy the games, the apparent ineffectiveness of fool-proofing is extremely frustrating. It feels like a waste of time especially because I have not dedicated as much time to the other sections which I am relatively good at: LR (-7 to -5) and RC(-5 to -2). Also, since I'm shooting for June, I don't think I have time to spend another month on fool-proofing. However, I know I need to get my current -10+ to something much lower to break into my goal score. I am just rambling now but I need suggestions on how to re-approach games. Has anyone tried something better than fool-proofing that has worked?