Hi all, quick question!

In the Harder MBT Questions unit, JY covers two questions that involve the negation of embedded conditionals. I'm a little confused on the negations, and was hoping someone had some insight.

PT 33 S1 Q11:

A --> B

NOT (A -->B) which becomes:

A some /B

PT 30 S2 Q20:

(A -->B) --> /C

C --> NOT (A-->B) which becomes:

C --> A and /B

Does anyone understand why the negation of (A-->B) in one problem resulted in a some statement, while in another problem resulted in an and statement? Thank you!

A couple months ago, I was getting somewhere between minus 3-7 per RC section and now I've seemingly lost my groove as I've been getting minus 10+ on more than a few occasions. Has anyone else experienced this? Tips/advice?

I started out with a 154 diagnostic and with my last PT, improved to 167. Although this is a great PT and could certainly be an outlier, the one thing that remains constant is my RC score. I have NEVER been able to reduce my incorrect ACs below -6. On the 167 PT, I got -7. I am curious if there are any other high scorers who had originally had this issue and were able to resolve it. Any advice?

Hi everyone, I took PT 71 today and realized that I saw 3 of the LR questions before during Khan Academy drills in December 2020. Other than the LR section, the LG and RC were completely new to me. Do you think that this detracts from the predictive ability of my PT score?

So... past two weeks got into the high 160s, Last PT hit a high of 172.

LR was once my strongest section, I’ve honed LR and RC to be more reliable and better scoring now however.

I’ve noticed some patterns reviewing recent LR Sections for me. The main being that I always seem to get incredibly stuck and destroyed by one of the easiest questions on the test according to the curve. I’ll get anywhere between -1 to -5 very variable. But invariably among the misses will be one of these questions.

I’ll find a few behaviors/patterns on these questions. They tend to be early, within the first 12 questions, as early as the 2nd or 3rd. It usually tends to be between two answer choices (usually one is the right one too). I end up spending too much time, crossing out all the other answers, flagging it and moving on to keep pace. On my 2nd round I return to it, then come back and still feel unsure about BR. Then when I get to the explanation JY kinda explains that the other answer choice is obviously bad and just scratches it out (lol I get it its a lot of answer choices on the test, but I’m dumb and dont get it, pls help me).

I can’t seem to find a rhyme or reason, they’re different question types etc. What could I be missing? Just more study?

For those curious, here’s a couple examples of the questions I’m talking about missing.

PT45 S1 Q2

PT70 S1 Q6

PT54 S2 Q2

PT61 S2 Q10

🙏🏼 thanks to anyone who has any words or advice in advance

I did this question twice in a span of about 3-4 weeks. I got it wrong both times.

So what I did was diagram the stimulus:

TT-->OM-->OD

S-m->OM

OM=Older than Maples

OD=Older than Dogwoods

A) I eliminated because there is no relationship between dogwoods and tulip trees

B) We don't know anything about the youngest sycamores only about the sycamores that are older than dogwoods

C) I picked this when I did it last night. I actually thought it was correct because we know that most sycamores are older than dogwoods, so there must be some that are either younger or the same age as dogwoods. I guess this is wrong because of "oldest dogwoods" am I correct?

D) Similar to A there is no relationship that can be said between tulip trees and sycamores

E) same as D

Can someone help me. Clearly my reasoning is incorrect somewhere because I got this question wrong not once, but twice. I am incredibly grateful to whoever can help me understand this problem!

Hey y'all just in a bit of a rut and need some clarification from my 7Sage peeps. When the term "unless" is used in a logic game rule with other groups things get kinda dicey for me quick.

For instance in an In/Out game if there is a rule which combines the negation of a player via the group 4 "not" or "cannot" group in the conditional I can't for the life of me get it down who gets negated and ends up in the sufficient. Example:

"cannot select J unless W is also selected" . Question: Do I negate J to /J via cannot, then negate my negation of /J again via "unless" to end up with: If J --> W ? Is this correct?

I thought I had this mastered until I took PT 87 Game # 3 (Double layer Sequencing)

"Hanbock cannot be shown earlier than the third week unless Ibex is shown in the first week"

Who gets negated, how, and ends up in the sufficient? Sorry if this is painful for those who have mastered LG conditional logic. Thank you for your help!

-Drew

Curious on what to do for LR. When I do an untimed LR section, I only get a few wrong. When I do a timed section, I get a lot LOT wrong. I know this happens due to the time, I am just unsure how to fix this?

So I am currently in the process of fine tuning some of my strategies and doing some last minute drilling before the June exam and was wondering if there is a reliable way to determine passage difficulty for RC. I feel like if there is a method to assess the passage difficulty, I could improve my RC score a little bit just by being able to focus on the easier passages first. If anyone has any tips/recommendations I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

Hi everyone! I’m hoping to get some unbiased advice on what you guys think is the best option in my situation.

Long story short I have been at this for a while. I have already tested two times (I cancelled my first score as a first time test taker) and was not impressed with my score. I relied heavily on LG and LR because I was terrible in RC. This is the mindset I had with the first two tests I took so it didn’t go well for me.

After realizing I would need to test again, I started with a new tutor for RC about a month ago and it has helped a ton so far. She has a method that is different from any other method I have learned where it’s more of a strategical/step by step approach. It’s different from what people typically tutor in RC, but nonetheless, very helpful so far. The only issue i’m having is the method either isn’t very consistent (I notice some passages I go -4 or less… other passages -10 plus) or i’m not comfortable with it yet. My tutor says that this is a foolproof way to get up there in the highway percentile of test takers…but it takes a couple of months to perfect it. I don’t think i’m terrible, however, definitely not scoring consistently where I would need to be to not heavily rely on the other two sections (sometimes… other times i’m fine so it’s hard to say)

I scheduled my test for June and it’s the last chance I have to go to law school in the fall so I really want to give it a shot but i’m worried about having so many tests on my record. What are the odds of me improving with this method in the last week? Should I take the test? If I do have to test again in August will having 4 tests look really bad for me? I’ve always heard admission only looks at the highest score but i’m worried having 4 will look awful for me.

THANK YOU

My last couple of practice tests have been REALLY rough for RC. I can read and understand the passage pretty well in around 4 minutes, but spend way too much time on inference questions (both author agreement/disagreement and general inferences about the passage questions). My RC scores have been tanking my overall score, I'm consistently -0 to -2 LR, -0 on LG when I finish the section but sometimes don't get to the last 2-3 questions. I was at a solid -3 to -5 with RC for the majority of my studying up until now, usually just from not finishing the last few questions, but recently my uncertainty with these inference questions is killing my score. I can usually only get it down to 2 or 3 answer choices, I overthink them for 2ish minutes, and then invariably choose the wrong answer. Looking for tips on how to answer these question types more confidently, especially when 2 or 3 answer choices can reasonably be supported by information in the passage. How should I be quickly assessing which statement for which there is more evidence that the author would agree with it?

If anyone has recently taken PT87 and remembers passages 1 and 2 from the RC section, would be interested to hear your thoughts/approach on the inference questions - especially question 6 from passage 1 of PT87! Or in general, if anyone has receded severely in RC - how did you get your score back up? Any and all help much appreciated

Hey everyone

I have been having trouble with MBT questions in specific.

Can you offer your tips and hints to how you handle them? Do you find writing out logic to help or waste more time?

Hey guys, sorry for asking but does anyone have a spreadsheet or any advice on the group 1, 2 and 3 groups for the necessary and sufficient conditions. I often get confused and as a result I end up doing poorly on parallel questions. Specifically LSAT prep 37 Section 2 Question 26 destroyed my soul. If you guys can give me any tips or a spread sheet or online source that can dumb it down for me id really appreciate it.

Thank you in advance for those that decide to respond :)

Hi! I’m registered for the June flex and got the email that registrations would open on Thursday 6/3 at 12 eastern. Am I able to make a ProctorU account before then just to make sure the process runs smoothly? I tried to make one and chose LSAC as the institution but it didn’t let me make an account. Thanks!

I've been studying for about two months and registered for June LSAT. When I started studying, RC was the hardest section for me. After about one month I saw significant improvement on my RC section. However, lately my RC score dropped again and this time I almost got all these difficult questions right but constantly miss the ones marked as difficulty level 1 or 2. What's worse is that I don't think I got them wrong because of misreading or something, but because I genuinely didn't understand these questions. I really don't know what's going on. Has anyone been through the same experience? I would really appreciate some advice!

Hi,

I was wondering if any of y'all have any tips on how to practice for the four section August LSAT?

I know that the experimental section could be any of LR, RC, or LG, but the regular tests on 7Sage only have 2 LR sections. I want to get as much practice in with the additional fourth section and mix in RC, LR, and LG to see if/how my score fluctuates depending on the additional section.

Would appreciate any tips on what's working for y'all :)

Hello!

Does anyone have any tips on how to get better at answering the questions on reading comp?

Hi guys!

So on every PT my analytics show the red bubble glaring at me containing Flaw. I've been practicing for the last month strictly doing problem sets on flaw questions, and I have the PowerScore bible that I re-read from but I still get them wrong!!!! I'm frustrated because I get a decent chunk of them right, but then I will be easily fooled on other questions. It's my highest bubble and the one that will not budge. I know if I get them under control I can comfortably get my goal score. Taking in June and have a lot of hope I can still improve. PLEASE any advice to quickly master? I think my knowledge is there, and I'm aware of the patterns but still mess up. Ugh, the test stress is hitting me, but I need to just keep my eye on the prize- LSAT is such a mental test. Anyways, if anyone has major tips/suggestions specifically about flaw questions please bequeath me with your wisdom. Thanks in advance.

Wondering what others feel is the right time to call it a day grinding LG sections. If I manage to get -0 on almost every section I try, did I "do it"? Like am I done studying? What if I get -0 on the majority I attempt, but there are still many sections that I haven't attempted?

Hi everyone,

I registered on ProctorU this morning to schedule a testing time, and am having a lot of issues with testing my equipment. I use Google Chrome as my browser, but it will not allow me to enable ProctorU extension. Further, proctorU keeps telling me to install the newer version, but it is up to date and current. I read on reddit that others have had this issue, and tried Firefox instead. I downloaded Firefox and re-tested my equipment. Using Firefox, I passed all of the tests, but Firefox does not allow ProctorU access to my CPU/RAM information. I have not had CPU/RAM issues in the past, and am currently using a 2017 MacBook Air with 11.1 MacOS Big Sur.

My question is whether anyone else has had issues with ProctorU testing using the Chrome browser on a Mac? Should I be concerned with the inability to test CPU/RAM on ProctorU?

Appreciate any feedback, and good luck.

Can anyone explain to me when to use a blocking or bridging NA, I always find myself getting easier NA questions wrong bc I'm zeroed in on the conclusion and if there is a bridge AC I assume its a Sufficient Assumption AC and it's therefore it's not necessarily true. Then in difficult questions I tend to zero into the conclusion and end up getting those right, but not all the time. I guess my hesitance on bridging is I don't want to mistakenly pick an SA AC but at the same time I know that sometimes the right answer to and NA question can be both a SA and NA. Can anyone tell me when it's okay to pick a bridging AC? and also how something can be sufficient and necessary at the same time? Thank you in advance!

Can someone that knows about games help me do this one in a stacked way? JY explains it in a linear way which is not how it is presented and I am confused on how to do it. Thank you.

Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format PT#.S#.Q# (G#) - brief description of question.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-63-section-2-game-4/

Aiming for mid 150 and I suck at LR. I guess questions 20-25 and place hold all the NA and SA questions between 1-19 and do those at the end. This way I can focus on the questions that I am good at between 1-19. I am trying to allow myself to get no more than 10 wrong in LR and usually get -12 or -13

For all of my LR sections, I always get NA and SA questions wrong.

Does anyone have any tricks on how to master NA and SA? Even NA being Q3 being easy I still struggle with I do not understand the framework. Getting these right will allow me to break into -10 or even -9

Does anyone have any advice or tips on how to attack an LR section differently? I tried the loophole but do not see the powerful/provable method being of much help to me personally

Any help is appreciated

For people with time and a half, does "duration of test" say 163 minutes? / people without accommodations, what time duration do you see for yours? Just trying to confirm that ProctorU has my accommodations. For some reason it says I don't have any accommodations under my test rules, but the 163 minutes is time and a half +5.5 minutes..? Just confirming the 163 minutes isn't including check-in and everything?

I am scheduled for the June test and just completed a prep test yesterday. I am always content with my LG score and my RC has gotten better. However, I got 14 wrong on the LR section. It seems like LR has gotten worse for me. 14 wrong?? Im in need of useful tips or strategies I can implement in these next two weeks as it is the one thing keeping me from my goal score.