What tips do you have for identifying In/Out games? I think select is a good indicator word, are there any others anyone else has noticed and picked up on?

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When used on the LSAT how should we interpret “a lot” and “any”.

Does “any” mean 1?

Is “a lot”not quantifiable?

Im really curious as to know which logic games cause the most difficulty for other people?

I think in/out games, and sequencing-conditional games are the hardest for me. They are hard are take the longest, and when the target time is achieved.

Hi,

I've noticed that I am not improving on argument part and flaw questions even after having a relatively good sense of identifying the premise, conclusion and flaw (I've gone over the flaw list plenty of times). I usually do fine on them under untimed conditions because I have enough time to parse down the grammar and rephrase the sentences in my own words but don't perform well under pressure. I think a reason I am unable to pick the right answer instantly is because the language describing the flaws and arguments confuses me or doesn't make sense on the first read. Can anyone recommend any resources or tips on how to overcome this? Thank you!

I find that I am a slow starter during PTs, particularly during LR. My current warm-up is an easy 1-layer sequencing followed by 5-8 LR questions from PTs1-35. I feel like it takes me 5-6 questions during LR to get fully focused and develop a clear-head, which is a problem because I have a tendency right now to miss an easy LR or LG question at the start of a section.

I'm curious to know what other people's warm-up is, or if you warm-up at all? Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.

I'd be interested to hear what people received on the Feb LSAT FLEX compared to practice tests. My last 2 practice tests were 164/165. I just got my actual test score and it was 157. I guess some of that could be nerves, but it is significantly lower than I anticipated. I signed up for score preview and I had already decided to wait to apply next year, so I have time to retest. Still, I'm (not pleasantly) surprised. Will we get to see how we performed section by section, or just the final score?

Hello,

I'm studying for the upcoming April LSAT FLEX. This will be my second time taking it. I haven't seen much improvement and Ive dug down hard on logic games for the past month.

To be honest I've not been studying as hard due to working on a couple races up until about a month ago, when I decided to take a PT and then drill through some of the intro lessons here and one of the other well known book on logic games (the LG Bible). I took another PT (82 to be exact) and found myself scoring much lower than I did when I tested a month ago.

Im trying to score a 160 and I've consistently scored 154 since my last LSAT in August. As I said, I took a bit of a break from studying due to a hectic work schedule but it didn't seem to hurt my score. Today I scored a 147 (151 blind), and I'm stuck on what my next move should be.

Looking for #advice on how to go about my studies the next month or so, as well as honest feedback about potentially pushing my LSAT back to June.

Thanks all.

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After doing the LG and RC parts of 7Sage, I'm struggling with LR questions. It's only been a few weeks since I finished LR but I'm having trouble remembering the question types and tactics. Currently, I'm going back to each question type and watching the explainer video and doing some problem sets—and where I was quite good a month ago, I am not doing so hot right now. I am taking the flex in April (I promise I'm not slacking, I work a 10hr+/day job!).

Does anyone have good review tactics before I move to practice tests? Any advice/thoughts/materials would be greatly appreciated! Thanks & happy studying.

The stimulus is confusing to me: when it says "those who regularly work with it," is that referring to "most builders" or another group of people entirely? And when it says it is likely that papercrete is promising for large-scale construction, is that a flawed argument because the people who did work with papercrete and are familiar with it have only used it primarily for small-scale rather than large-scale construction?

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I saw that time shift error is flawed by the reason that we can not ensure that future and the present would be the same as the past.

But at the same time, we use a premise like "Histories proves.". I thought we could use the past as the evidence that future and present would be the same as the past. I thought it's like an analogy of past and present or future.

Is there some body help me close the gap between the above two?

What is the flaw in this question? For those of you who are familiar with the Loophole, what is the loophole for the argument here?

Thanks!

Hey guys,

For this question, I’m having trouble seeing why we must assume that “having a plan chosen for them by employers” must mean the winners didn’t still clearly think what a great plan the Acme retirement plan was.

Why couldn’t it be that employers chose the plan for them and all the winners still recognize how great the plan supposedly is? Just b/c it’s involuntary doesn’t mean you think it sucks.

I feel the correct A/C (D) requires that additional assumption [employers chose it → some winners don’t think Acme’s plan as awesome]; can someone chime in?

Many thanks!

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So I have no idea what is going on in this question. I tried diagramming but it didn't help much. When the answer choices talk about manuscripts, is it referring to both fiction and non-fiction manuscripts?

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Hi can someone explain why D is wrong? I understand that it might be due to the invalid generalization. We know that epic poetry transmits values "by which a group of people is to live." We know it accomplishes this by embodying those values in heroic figures. However, we can't definitely conclude that epic poetry performs this function for "many groups of people," as choice (D) indicates. But I am confused because of the term "A". I think "a" means a general scenario, and the statement can apply to any/all group of ppl so wouldn't then the application of this model "a group" be applicable to the "many group"?

Also my issue with the answer choice B is that it mentions 'most' and under time pressure I applied Loopholes provable-powerful method and eliminated B because the 'most' was a powerful indicator word. For those who have read loophole have you also come across such situations, what do you do?

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Could someone help me ID what flaw is in the stimulus and why answer choice D is wrong? Is D incorrect because the skeptic is assuming Debbie used another technique aside from the three he was originally testing for? And is the sleight of hand, trick deck, and planted "volunteer" all part of one technique or is it three separate techniques? I'm just confused as to why A is correct if it only mentions one method.

I was thinking D used a trick deck or planted volunteer when the skeptic was testing for slight of hand, then alternated accordingly with the other two tests, but aren't those three separate methods to achieve the same effect?

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How to find the background info vs. premise vs. conclusion in PT4.S1.Q11.

I could not for the life of me figure out which sentences in the stimulus were the premises and which were the conclusion (and perhaps which was merely background info):

Can someone please clue me in?

Thanks so much.

Can someone help explain the reasoning for the correct answer? I'm having a tough time sorting through this one. It seems like Antoine's response to Giselle consists of 2 separate arguments: 1) the gas tax shouldn't be increased because its unfair. 2) If it is increased, the burden of providing the government revenue should be spread between consumers and non-consumers.

I understand that Antione's description of "the burden" as "providing the government with increased tax revenues," is technically incorrect, because the burden should be described as "decreasing petroleum consumption" or something similar. What I don't understand is how this demonstrates that he really is defining the burden itself rather than simply describing an outcome of the tax increase. Cant he describe the burden as an increase in government revenue, and still recognize that its purpose is to decrease petroleum consumption. Any insights are greatly appreciated! #HELP

Hi,

I am scheduled to take the test in April but I don't think I am ready for it. Can I reschedule my test in June? Is it too late?

If a few questions recur, I might edit this post to include a poll!

How is "few cowards fail to be fools" diagrammed?

Is it "most cowards are fools?"

w---s----c----m----f

w---s----f

Is this correct?

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Hello!

How do you review for reading comprehension?

Hello community, I recently listened to a podcast with J.Y and and 7sager Sami and one with Bart who both had a phenomenal journey and improvement and one thing I picked up was both of them saying they did LR in rounds on test day and PT ? Does this mean that they do LR questions basically twice within a 35 min period ? Or am I getting this all wrong ? For reference the podcast is on Apple and Soundcloud . Thanks so much !

Can Could Be True answer choices actually be "Must Be True"?

I just did PT47, Section 4, Game 3. Question 14 in this game has a Could Be True question stem but the answer choice actually has to be true.

Logically speaking, if something must be true, then it could be true. So the logic goes: MBT –> CBT, and not the other way around. Just because an answer choice could be true does not necessarily mean that it has to be true. For example, suppose A and B could go into slot 1. “A goes into slot 1” is then a Could Be True answer choice, but it doesn’t have to be true, because B could also go into slot 1.

But if we suppose that only A could go into slot 1, then “A goes into slot 1” is then a Must Be True answer choice, and it could also be true.

Can someone tell me if this understanding is correct?

I don't recall ever seeing a Could Be True question where the correct answer choice actually must be true. Does anyone know if this is something that happens in other, more recent games? Or is this a phenomenon that we see only rarely and with the older games, like this one?

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