Hey guys!

So I took the LSAT in June 2019 and scored a 165. I took it again in July to see if I could go any higher, but I scored a 165 again. Would it look worse for me to keep it or to cancel the score? Appreciate any advice. Thanks!

Hi Everyone,

I was hoping someone would be willing to share their progression in improving the Logic Reasoning section of the LSAT, and how they were able to get good at both speed and accuracy!

Help! I'm having trouble studying for the RC section of the LSAT. any good advice/tips?

Hello everyone,

I’m feeling a little down. I just took my second prep test today and scored a 140. I’ve been studying for the LSAT for almost a year now. I started with Kaplan and took two real LSAT tests. On my first one I scored a 141 and on the second one I scored a 146. Not great. Then I decided to start with 7Sage and give it another try but so far I am not seeing a huge difference (not saying that the course is bad cause so far it’s been great). I even quit my full time job recently to take a break and fully focus on studying and practicing for the LSAT which I will be re-taking in November 2019. I usually understand the material and I do great in the practice assessments after each session, but for some reason when it comes to taking the actual prep test or even the real test, the timing messes me up and I have a hard time focusing. If anyone has any helpful advice on how to improve or tips to apply when taking the test please let me know.

I am finding as I work on MBT questions that I seem to get overwhelmed with the sheer amount of information sometimes (they can be quite long) and keep it all lined up in my head while under time. I know scribbling down some of the logic can help but it isn't the most time efficient thing to do, though I'm willing to do it if need be. Any tips, advice or strategies that helped you not feel overwhelmed with all the info to remember? Thanks!

What is a PSA question? How is it different than SA?

If I am forgetting lines in a passage (for example that X rarely occurs or that X percentage of something does something else) that support an AC in a question therefore leading me to getting questions wrong, what larger problem do you think that’s a symptom of? Should I be reading more slowly for nuance and/or is my memory method process faulty?

The scenario that happened more than once in a recent PT is that I thought none of the ACs were supported in a question so I chose “the best” AC begrudgingly even though I recognized the flaws in it. On BR though I ultimately found the part of the passage that supported an AC that I originally thought was unsupported. I realized I had forgotten about a line or part of the passage.

New to the discussion forums, so sorry if this is not worthy of its own post. Just curious.

I was crying when I got my score yesterday. Over a year of studying. First diagnostic was a 157. Quite studying an entire semester due to depression. My first test, and the highest I had hit on my practice tests was 171. Thank you so much to 7Sage, I would’ve never hit this without this program. The only program I will ever recommend!

How do you do your low resolution summaries on the digital tests? Do you just make note of them on a scrap piece of paper?

Hello all, I will be taking the October LSAT and would like to take and BR at least 20 PT's between now and then. I have a schedule laid out that I will follow, and if I fall a bit under 20 I'm OK with that. My question is this, which tests should I start with in order to build momentum? Would it make sense to start at PT 60 and work my way up? Are the most recent tests the best place to end before the test? Thanks for your help!!!

Hi. I got my July LSAT score back yesterday and I’m shocked by how low it is (149). I’ve been studying 15-20 hrs weekly since May and all the PT’s I took leading up to test day have been in the 158-164 range. I scored a 149 on a PT back in May and I distinctly remember that I was extremely distracted at the time. Does anyone have any advice??? I can’t believe my score is this low! I feel like I have a good grip on the material and the basics, so I’m wondering if something went wrong on test day (test anxiety or maybe filling in the scantron wrong). Please help me out!!

The main issue that I can't resolve right now is if I should take the September LSAT, and if it would even matter. It'll be my fourth one, my priors score are: 153/160/161, but these scores are from 2 years ago. Back then, I was studying for the LSAT about 5 hours/week for a few months (don't remember exactly), and I took around 15 PTs (25 if you count retakes). I was also using the LSAT trainer, and Blueprint.

After taking some time to work full time and advance my career, I decided to take the LSAT again, and started studying in early May of this year. I quit my job, and studied full time for the LSAT with 7sage. So far I've completed every single lesson, and a large portion of the drills, as well as taken 8 practice tests in the last month/month and a half. And so far, my score hasn't increased at all. For whatever reason (not blaming 7sage at all, their lessons have been great and easy to understand) my score hasn't gotten past the 158-162 range. This is with blind review and every other suggestion I've come across thus far (I've also taken some of Sami's tutoring lessons). Unfortunately, taking a different or later LSAT isn't really an option, I need my score before October for law school purposes.

So this makes me arrive at my final question, especially considering that the LSAT refund deadline is tomorrow - should I not take the September LSAT, and instead just use my score from two years ago?

I have been trying to sign up for the October LSAT since yesterday, but it's showing that no centers are available and I don't see an option to join the waitlist. Any thoughts?

I still don't understand why A is right and C is wrong. The conclusion reads, "it's obvious that the public headed the campaign", meaning they followed the campaign's advice and washed their hands more frequently or stopped going to public places, all because the rate of influenza went down at the time of the campaign. That's the conclusion and its support. Since this is a cause-effect relationship, I assumed that a correct strengthener would reaffirm that hand-washing or avoiding public spaces did indeed go up.

I got rid of everything except for A and C. I wasn't sure about A, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what's wrong with C. JY says in his explanation that, if anything, it weakens the argument by 'presenting an alternate cause', but I disagree with this. One aspect of the campaign was to reduce people's attendance in public places if they had the flu. If fewer gatherings occur during the 6 month period, that's clear evidence that people went out a bit less than they did before the campaign. Thus, it's likelier that they heeded the campaign (yea we can argue if that was really b/c of the campaign or whatever, but the point of a strengthen/weaken answer choice is have some kind of impact on the support/conclusion relationship, no matter how big or small). I feel the same way about A in that it shows people might have washed their hands more during the campaign. Nevertheless, I think both answers can plausibly strengthen the argument. Where have I gone wrong?

Thank you!!!!

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I'm currently stuck at a 150. LR/ RC being my biggest issues. I'm taking the september exam and starting to get worried. My goal is a 155-157. Any Advice?

Hello all,

I've been using 7Sage since February of this year. My goal is to get a 160. I took the November '18 LSAT after having studied with a Kaplan book for 6 weeks and got a 144. Knowing how much work needed to be done, I registered for 7Sage Ultimate+ this year and really took my time with the CC, attempted to really become fluent in logic, did all the practice sets, foolproofed LG, etc. After finishing the CC and doing PT's since June, I managed to raise my average score to around a 155-159. I initially only planned to take the Sept '19 LSAT but decided to take July as well knowing that I could cancel if I didn't like the score. Well I got my score back yesterday and got a 143. Yes, one point LOWER than my November LSAT. I have no clue what happened.

The test-taking conditions were really bad. There were no left-handed desks and the desks were extremely small, which meant the tablet took up over half the desk space and made it very challenging to do logic games. I also spent a lot of time trying to make sure the tablet wouldn't fall off the desk because it was so small. Combined with test-taking anxiety, I knew that likely I would score lower than my average on PT's but I did not know it was still in my ability to score THAT low. Naturally I'm extremely discouraged, but I'm forcing myself to move forward and keep studying. I'm hoping doing a few PT's this week will restore some of my confidence back.

I'm just wondering if there is still hope to get a decent score for the September test. My last PT from a few days ago was 157. I was hoping to get a 160 for September, but at this point I would be happy getting anything between a 155-160. I'm planning to take 2-3 PT a week, with blind review and foolproofing in between test days. Any advice and/or encouraging words would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much!!

Hi All,

I completed the LSAT in July and scored 163. I was scoring 169 on my PT's but dont want to go through more LSAT study. I am an older applicant planning on applying and hoping for scholarships. My understanding is that my score is good for 5 years. I want to start school in 2022, and am thinking I should apply not this cycle, but next. Would there be any reason to apply this cycle and defer? I feel like it shouldnt be counted against me if my LSAT score is a year old. Im also hoping some more online schools start up. I just saw that UNH with IP started up this year whcih is exciting. Online will be my best option and that limits me currently to syracuse and UNH. There is also SMU which is in town, but would be full time and I would have to figure out a work schedule around it.

Any advice, thoughts, suggestions would be appreciated.

I am pretty devastated by my LSAT score. Was consistently scoring 157-161 on my PT leading up to test day and I got a 153 on this one. That was lower than my diagnostic of 155....I know that the LSAT is just the beginning of a hard journey to become a lawyer, but I don't know where to go from here. I am signed up to take the September and October test,\ and just need some advice on how to get back to studying.

Hi everyone. I took the July LSAT for fun just because it doesn't matter. I did around how I was doing on practice tests in the time (165-167) and got a 166. I was not fully prepared and I am doing much better on practice tests now (consistently over 170). My question is, should I cancel this score? It is by no means a bad score and may allow me to get into some lower t14s I suppose, but it would not allow me to get any money (I have a good gpa from a top 5 undergrad and excellent internships). I really would love to get the process over with this fall as I am a rising senior in college. The reason I would want to keep it is because it's not an awful score and what if something goes terribly wrong during the September LSAT, which I am signed up for. On the other hand, I do get a free retake if I cancel it. Please provide me your input! My goal would be to go to a school in the lower t14 with money and I am signed up for September and will hopefully do well above that score.

Got a 169 on July. Debating whether to cancel. Have a GPA in the mid 3.7s and am really hoping to get into a T6, which I don't see possible with a 169. I was hoping for 173+.

However, the 169 is something I can apply with, god forbid September doesn't work out. If I score 173+ in September would schools look down on the 169, or is it high enough that it wouldn't hurt me?

Hi all. Similar to many July test takers, I am debating whether or not to cancel. I scored a 163 and am pretty disappointed.

This was below my PT range leading up to the test, which was roughly 166-169. I have not scored that low since early on in my PT phase and I am confident if I took it again I would not score below 163. Furthermore, this score would put me out of contention for some schools I am really interested in. This is leaning me towards canceling.

I should also say I am signed up for the September LSAT and as of late I have had a bit of a breakthrough. On 4 PTs I took after the July test, I've scored a 169, two 171's, and a 170 - the first time I've ever scored into the 170's. Any thoughts would be much appreciated -- thanks as always 7sagers.

Keep your head up if you didn't get the score you were hoping for and use it as motivation for the next time around :)

So I have been reading all the discussion posts on the July LSAT score release but decided to post one of my own. In short, my score was 150. I know I can do much better considering the fact that I had barely studied prior to taking the test and had not done a single prep test other than the diagnostic. That said, I am located in Canada and the deadline to apply to most law schools is November 1. I definitely plan on retaking the LSAT in November with more studying this time. However, my concern is the following: should I just keep the score and retake and then apply with the higher score? Or should I cancel and apply but with a pending LSAT score that will be released after I take it in November? Also, the law school in my city and which I plan on applying to in October typically accepts applicants with an LSAT average of 155 so I am not sure if my score will be of any help if I keep it. Your advice is really appreciated. Thank you :)

As the title says, I studied and took the LSAT 2 years ago or so, and got a 160/161 on my second and third LSATs, respectively. These were consecutive tests. I decided to continue working full time and take the LSAT at a later date, and since I wasn't in a rush, to try again for the law schools I wanted (close to T14). Well, come 2 years later, and my score on all of my practice tests with 7sage are all in the 160 range. 7sage is the third or fourth study material that I've used over the past couple years (LSAT trainer and some other stuff).

Is it worth it to take the September LSAT? Taking another LSAT at a different time isn't really an option, unfortunately :(

Please tell me what you think! I have plenty of other options for law school, so I still plan on applying no matter what.

Thanks!

Question: in the sentence, "If you’re not greedy, you’re not a business school student" the two different conditional indicators confuse me: if I use "If" then I get /G-->/BS (Or BS-->G); however, if I use "not," then I can come out G-->BS (I negate the BS and make it the NC, and then I'm left with the G which become the SC and also has the SC indicator "If"). So, which one do I choose? I know the first way is correct, but I'm not sure why.

Is it the case that "If" overpowers "not", and "not" is merely a negation and not a logical indicator?