November will hopefully be my last take. I first took in June when I was mid - high 160s (with one 170) and cancelled because I was nervous on test day. Wrote again in September with Prep Test scores hovering in high 160s - low 170s and scored 164. Gutted, I'm going for one more try and am finally consistently hitting the mid 170s. Last month of PTs has been 177, 174, 175, 163 (was sick) 166 (next day - still recovering), Tuesday's 172, and today's 173. My diagnostic last December was 157. When I started out I had no idea I'd ever be where I am today: looking to go knock a 170+ out of the park on Monday.

I've learned some incredibly valuable lessons along the way. For one thing: never stop respecting this test or it will punish you. Next, don't forget that the light at the end of this tunnel is law school, then the Bar exam, followed by a meaningful career practicing law. Finally, this test is intended to quantify your ability to understand and reason with complex/dense words and situations - consider that getting better at these skills is early preparation for your future career.

No matter what happens I know without a doubt I, personally, wouldn't be hitting these scores without the excellent content of this site and the brilliant, dynamic support found here on the forums. If I'm having a bad prep day, I know I can find the right motivation here - it's happened multiple times. So, with that, thanks to all for sharing the adventure. To those taking the November exam: may the logic come easily and may the curve be generous.

I know we can bring regular pencils to the exam (it's printed on the admission ticket) but can we also bring pens? Or is LSAC providing pens?

For the stylus/pen they are providing - is it a decent pen? As in, will we want to use it over the pencils so we don't have to go back and forth?

Also, just to confirm - we still can't bring mechanical pencils right??

I’m not seeing any, so just checking.

For anyone who has written an afternoon lsat (12:30pm), do you have any tips to fight the afternoon sluggishness and stay alert?

Been studying since June this year and will take the real thing on Monday November 25th. I just high scored on PT 71 at 175!! I'm really confident now for monday and feel like the hard work will pay off. Good luck to everyone who is testing as well and just know you will do great! Thank you 7sage!!

I put 10 copies of each of the games from the Powerscore Re-challenge into a OneNote notebook (screenshotted from my kindle copy). It was incredibly useful for foolproofing. The table of contents has a mastery checklist and also has links to each of the games. Each game page also has a link to J.Y's explanation videos on the 7sage website.

You can view some screenshots here:

https://ibb.co/j00W37

https://ibb.co/cu5yi7

https://ibb.co/n5YPan

I want to share for those of you who have Onenote on a tablet pc. It allowed me to carry my logic games prep with me everywhere.

You can download the notebook here: https://nofile.io/f/6KngWJsexb6/Logic+Games+Foolproofing.zip

You'll just need to extract it into your onenote notebooks folder (C:\Users[username]\Documents\OneNote Notebooks)

Also, to avoid illegally distributing content I password protected the zipfile. If you would like to use it, please send me a note verifying you own the current edition of the Powerscore Logic Games Bible (or, all of the preptests in the 2nd screenshot) and I will send you the password to unlock the zip file.

Hope this helps some!

Hi all,

I wanted to thank 7sage for providing amazing and affordable resources for my LSAT journey. It was a long and exhausting, but definitely worth it. I studied for over a year, and it was always encouraging to see stories where people had improved significantly. I hope that my story helps others to see that improving by 18 points or more is totally possible with hard work! Good luck to everyone on the rest of their LSAT studies!

Hey everyone,

So I am taking the test in one week for the first time. I am happy with my LG and LR scores but I cannot seem to imrpove on RC. I thought by now, my score would have improved but it hasnt. It is very inconsistent. Any advise on how to improve or if it is even possible to improve in a week?

Hi all. So I'm taking my LSAT next week and I've been scoring in the high 160's and low 170s on all my practice tests so far. Most of the time when I get a question wrong it's only because I read the question stem wrong. But since this is my first LSAT, I want to retake it in January just so I have one more try before applying to Law Schools. I've already started some of my applications.

The issue is that in January I'm getting a rhinoplasty procedure a couple of days before the LSAT. I know I can't push it to February because I want to apply to T-14 and T-20 schools and I feel like they wouldn't accept an LSAT as late as February, but I'm not sure.

Do you guys think my operation would have any impact on my performance on test day? It's a closed operation so I won't have stitches or anything. Is it worth the risk, or should I just take it in February instead. Ideally I would've postponed the procedure but it's been scheduled for months now and it would be too expensive to make changes at this point.

Or alternatively, I can take it in January and then once more in February, but how bad does 3 tries on the LSAT look?

I have trouble recognizing these sentences in the LG sections I know they are fallacies, but how do I know a sentence is a sufficient not a necessary condition or vice versus ?

The videos are down from youtube but they are still available on the 7sage website for free. Is this supposed to be the case? You don't have to pay for a course to get these explanations.

What do I do?

What do I study?

I was contemplating doing a couple of PTs.

Or should I do one full one, BR it, and then do drills? Make my own PT with the hardest questions i can find?

I am almost out of fresh PTs (have like 5 or 6 left)

I am scoring early 160s, I am seriously hoping for 160+ this week

I have been studying full time since I joined, and really want this to be the last time I write

What do you think?

Good luck to everyone writing!

Any tips would be nice :)

Hi. Ignore the crappy title.

I am one of the lucky people who wrote the September 2019 test and I just can't forget the LG. If, I hope not, but if history repeats itself and a similar LG section comes up in November test, what will you do different to not fu.k up this time? Even if you did not write the September test, what would your strategy be to handle an unusually difficult LG section? Besides crying of course.

Thank you.

And good luck to my November people. I wish the best for you.

seriously i always do this and its such a stupid reason to loose marks... any tips? Am i just being too rushed or lazy or not bothering to understand a rule. i always tell myself i will pay more attention next time but end up mixing things up...

I legitimately have near 100% accuracy on five star questions, but am constantly getting one and two stars wrong. I just did a PT and got 171, but I missed 4 1-star LR questions. It just doesn't make sense to me, how do I train myself to go for the obvious answers when necessary? For example PT66 S2 Q8. I spent 2.6 minutes on this question and got it wrong, meanwhile getting every single 4 and 5 star question correct in under 1.25 minutes.

When I took this test, I was debating between AC B and C; unfortunately, I picked AC B. Why is AC B incorrect? is it bc we can't assume that investment choices of voters is the same as the people who vote?

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What I wrote down for BR: I do not see an answer choice that really strengthens Ms. Fring's argument. However, if a company follows an experts advice and the result was very little profit(ac E) I believe that would be a substantial example allowing us to reject Mr. Blatt's argument.

I know that this is a strengthening question and we should be looking for something that strengthens the argument and not weakens Mr. Blatts argument, but I do not see how ac C is correct. What does volume of business have to do with blame? The stimulus just says the more they cost the more they can be blamed not the more or less they cost the more or less business they have.

#help

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I had assumed they would but now I am not all that certain. I was registered (and unprepared for Oct) so I cancelled, but I was also hoping to apply before Jan 1st for a number of scholarships and now I feel like I might have made a terrible mistake!

Edit: I just realised that LSAC is only closed on Dec 25th, maybe 26th, and Jan 1st. I thought they'd be out from the 21st to the 1st or something. If anyone knows any better I'd be happy to hear it thanks!

@"David.Busis"?

Any guesses?

Thanks!

Hello, am I looking to weaken and strengthen the conclusion in my answer choice. Should I select an answer that could work both ways? Or find the answer that does either or? Thank you

This flaw sucks. I've been trying to understand the logical gap, but it's so subtle. I've made up this example to try and explain how I think it works (because J.Y.'s example in the core curriculum made no sense to me) but I'm still confused.

Example: A cat is a small predator that murders its victims for food and pleasure. Anna knows that Brenda owns a cat named Voldemort. Therefore, Anna knows that Voldemort is a small predator that murders its victims for food and pleasure.

What I think is going on here is that flaws of this type are exploiting a subtle assumption we make about what something is or may be and what the subject believes to be true. In the context of this example, maybe Anna thinks Voldemort is a fluffy tabby that purrs when cuddled and eats food dished out of a can (i.e. V is not a murderer). So, if this were a stimulus, the correct answer choice would be something like: "Fails to distinguish between Voldemort being a small predator and Anna's believing Voldemort to be a small predator..."

Is this right or am I totally off the mark?

I got this question right during my PT and wrong during BR. I kept fluctuating between A (the right answer) and D (the wrong answer). I totally get why A is right but I do not understand why D is wrong. SOS.

Many thanks.

I've been noticing a trend over the last 10 reading comprehension problem sets, particularly the ones labeled "hard" RC. During Blind Review, I've been consistently changing correct answers to incorrect answers (i.e. my post-BR score is usually worse). This happens particularly with questions where I've used "intuition" (that-answer-just-feels-better) as I'm running out of time. What's worse, this phenomenon has worsened during the "hard" RC, where I second-guess my answers (hmmm ... this is a hard set so the answer couldn't possibly be this straightforward). This is incredibly frustrating ... it feels like I'm training my brain to not trust itself. Any suggestions on what to do? I never had this problem with any LR/LG questions (in fact, I had never changed a correct answer to an incorrect answer during BR before starting RC).

Hello fellow 7Sagers,

I am currently in the core curriculum on Intro to Logic and I am also using the Loophole. Both are amazing but I am hung up on "is required". In the Loophole the example is, "One man in his time is required to play many parts". In the book, the conditional is

M ->PMP or /PMP -> /M. However, in the core curriculum the example is, "Practice is required to be a skilled artist". Thus,

sa → P or /P → /sa. My confusion is in the necessary and sufficiency so could someone explain to me in more detail how to diagram "is required" correctly? Because in the Loophole required is considered a necessary condition indicator.

For all LSAT retakers - if you have seen all PTs at one point or another - what is the best material to study with? Is going back to the PTs you have seen still worthwhile? I figured that I should at least focus on the last 20 or so PTs.

Is there other good prep test material out there with PTs that are comparable to actual LSATs? I'm just trying to get as much practice as possible! I haven't seen PT88 - but leaving this for a couple weeks before my actual exam date. Thanks in advance!!

OK this one is truly doing my head in...I original selected B but flagged it, and when reviewing I changed to C. Correct answer, tho is D and I have NO IDEA WHY. I'm generally kind of bad at the disagreement questions, but TBH I felt pretty good about C and cannot for the life of me understand why D is a better answer than C. Help!

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