Hi! I have a question about flaw and weaken type Qs on LR.

So, if i remember correctly, JY said in one of his lessons that the arguments for flaw type questions might have several unstated assumptions but it doesn't necessarily mean that all those assumptions could be classified as flaws.

Besides the common flaws that he listed for us in his lesson (ex. red herring fallacy, opinion vs fact etc.), how can we decide which assumptions count or does not count as flaws?

This also lead me to question the difference between weakening and flaw type Qs: could the assumptions that do not count as flaws in flaw questions be used to weaken such arguments should they be used in weaken type questions?

I know this all sounds kind of confusing but any opinion on this would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!

Hi 7sagers,

I want to ask you guys what are some tips you utilize to avoid mistakes on LR! Do you have a certain procedure you follow to be certain that you aren't making a mistake on the LR questions? At this point, I've noticed a lot of my wrong answers on the LR section comes down to mistakes I make from misreading/misinterpreting the stimulus/answer choices. If there are any tips you could impart on this matter, it would be much appreciated!

Could someone please explain the answer to me? Having a bit of trouble understanding. Thank you

Does anyone have tips for taking the LSAT flex? Before, I would take practice tests on my tablet, and now that I moved to taking tests on my computer, my RC score dropped. Highlighting really helped me on the tablet, but highlighting is much slower on a laptop. Does anyone have any advice?

Anyone in the area looking for a study buddy/buddies?

Why is "only very careful drivers use headlights when their use is not legally required" the answer here? I literally can't bend my mind to figure out why that changes anything after the headlight law went into effect and the resulting lack of collision reductions.

Hey guys,

Does anyone have any advice about when to go through answer choices just using the rules vs when to make different inferences/extra boards? I noticed some can be done using just the rules while others it's best to make two, three boards.. not sure how to decide in order to maximize my time.

Also, anyone know if spatial sequencing prevalent on recent LSAT's?

Thanks!

I see a lot of people suggesting various magazines and pieces of fiction to read that contain the dense and complicated language similar to that of RC passages. Would printing out already used RC passages and just practice reading those be just as effective if not more so? Has anyone else done this and seen improvements from it? Thanks in advance for your feedback!

I finished the CC a while ago, foolproofed all the games from PT's 16 - 35 and then started taking PT's. Seeing how low my LG scores were, I've incorporated more LG work into my schedule by drilling games from PT 1-15, and foolproofing newer games from the PT's I'm taking. I'm still working on the 1-15 batch, but it is really discouraging to see that I sometimes score as low as -4 on a new game from these old PT's. Also, among the 4 PT's that I took to this day, my LG average is -8.

I should add that even though I am putting in regular practice into it, I haven't focused entirely to LG because I also need to improve in LR and RC, and I felt like I could improve by incorporating some regular LG work into my schedule without devoting all my time to it. Because honestly, BR'ing games is a breeze to me and I always manage to get a perfect score in a short amount of time in BR. So I'm really upset that I'm not seeing results when doing the games timed. I feel too rushed and stressed even when I'm using a stopwatch instead of a count-down, and I make stupid mistakes that I can see right through in BR.

I would really really appreciate any help that you guys can provide.

PS. I'm registered for the June international exam on the 28th, and if I don't sit this one I will miss this cycle since the next exam is in November, so I'm looking to improve until then (hopefully).

Hi,

So on this question I was stuck between C and D (because each of these answer choices only talked about one of the two things: beetles or plants, but not how they compared to one another). However, the right answer happened to be E (which totally surprised me because "many" warm weather plants could include the ones that the stimulus is talking about, and if beetles were much older than these plants, this could explain why they came up earlier on the fossil record.

Can anyone help explain why the answer is E (and not C and D)?

Thanks!

Hey everyone,

Are spatial sequencing games found on the current LSAT's? Just wondering if I should be spending a lot of time on it.

I'm totally lost with this question. So when the Hvirus inserts itself into a chromosome of an animal, fragments of the virus are passed onto the descendants. The zebra finch and junco both have the hvirus fragments in the same location. They diverged 25 millions years ago, so therefore the hvirus is 25 million years old.

I just can't see any assumptions the argument is making. In my opinion, C might weaken the argument if the insertion occurs at a random spot. Doesn't this contradict that the fragments are in the same location?

Thanks!

I want to work on FP my logic games. Was wondering which PTs I should use above 36 to just take for LG? Should I split it in into odds and evens and use one of those for FP and the others for full PTs?

Hi everybody! Was hoping to be able to poll the sages (or anyone that feels the are able to consistently go -0/-1 in Logic Games) about best practices for doing Logic Games digitally.

I'm trying to break into the -0/-1 camp (very soon hopefully) but find myself occasionally thwarted by one or two 'stupid' mistakes per section - I'm talking about selecting a could be true in a could be true EXCEPT because halfway into the ACs I lost track of what I was doing. In the past, the recommended best practice is a tactile approach:

Does anyone have any tricks or tips for translating these (and others that I might have missed) into the new digital LSAT era?

To share some of what I've done - I make an effort to organize EVERY game the EXACT SAME way on my scratch paper (which I much prefer to writing in the margins): I always list my game pieces in rows of 3; I always write my game board under my game pieces and write out the rules on the left-hand side of the page beneath my master game board; if there are any splits, I make those on the left side of my paper and save the whole right half for game boards to create when answering questions. I've found that this is very helpful because, my eyes/pencil know instinctively where to go.

Hi!

I just started Fool Proofing PTs 17-33 (basically CC games). I do about one test’s worth of games a day and noticed a trend of mastering them on day 2 (0 wrong and under the target time).

Ok so my question is why ten copies?

If each day is two copies of the same test (one for when you first take it that day, and the other for after you watch the explanation video). But with a 2 day trend of “mastering”, I can’t imagine why the general rule is to print out 10 copies, or 5 days worth of FPing?

Am I missing something? I’m getting a dreadful feeling that maybe I’m rushing it or missing the point? I know it’s not because I’m good at games. Hmm. I honestly think I just have decent short term memory and that’s biasing my ability to make inferences correctly the next day. But I’m definitely making them. Is that the point? And if so, does it last? Or should I be returning to the games I “mastered” way the f later and try them again when the learned inferences are less fresh? Maybe I answered my own question.

So tired. :T

Please help explain what I’m missing!!

#help

Hi,

So I understand most of the reason why C is correct in this question, but how we can assume that if "single persons, on average, purchase the same kinds of food items" then this is consistent with all people who spent 2 times more money on food 30 years ago? After all, if something occurs on an average, doesn't that mean that it isn't necessarily true that all people do that something?

Hope my question makes sense

Any #help would be appreciated!

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Hi everyone,

Now this was a weird parallel flaw question because I feel like there are so many different answer explanations for the answer choices on this question all over the web, and I am not sure which ones are the most reliable. Thus, I felt maybe listing what I thought here would help clarify stuff, and I want to know what people here think (is my reasoning here look correct or not correct?)

What I thought was the flaw: transferring a non-transferrable trait from X to a reproduction of X

A-- right because it matches the flaw (crossed out A during the actual timed test because the trait isn't the same in wording like we see in the stimulus)

B-- wrong because this is a conditional relationship, not an argument

C-- wrong because this is a conditional relationship, not an argument

D-- wrong because we want to see some trait transfer from Jo to Layne, and we don't see that

E-- wrong because being similar is not the same as imitating/reproducing (chose E during my PT because I didn't realize this)

Any feedback would be very much appreciated!

thanks!

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Curious if this question is an example of an argument proceeding by attacking the premise of another argument:

Context: Case of French Revolution is evidence for a particular claim.

Conclusion: The French Revolution is a poor example of this claim.

P1: France was unique in a particular way (directly supports conclusion)

MP/SC: Normal disruptions typical of revolution were avoided (directly supports Conclusion)

P2: Same civil servants stayed in office (supports MP/SC)

My question is whether this is an example of an argument undermining the support structure of another argument - providing additional context that uncovers certain assumptions his opponents were making? Or is the author going straight for the jugular so to speak and just claiming that their premise (the French Revolution) is a poor one?

I have just begun the foolproofing process for pt's 1-35 and i am just curious as to how many sections those of you who foolproofed did per day. I was originally planning on doing one a day that way i can keep up with RC and LR while foolproofing but i have not started timed prep tests yet and was hoping to sit for the August exam and have October as a fall back if it doesn't go well. I am concerned doing one per day would put me to early/mid June and then only roughly 2-2.5 months to prep test. Do you guys think that is enough time for pt's? Thanks in advance for your advice and help!

Hi,

So this was a tough question because it is a MSS (Most Strongly Supported) question, but I was not able to really think of how the one right answer (C) must be true based on the information provided. Some tutors think that this question is just an example of how sometimes MSS answers are simply what is "most strongly supported" (and thus not necessarily must-be-true), but can anybody think of a way to make C must be true?

Thank you!

Any thoughts would be very much appreciated!

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Hey guys!

Does anyone have a quizlet or something helpful to help them review the different type of stimulus's for LR?

Thanks!

Hi all,

I have been studying for the LSAT for about a year now, and am experiencing a dilemma the past couple PTs I have taken. LG is my strongest section, going -0 and -1 on practically every section known to man since I have fool proofed a few months ago. I have seen a decline in my LG score in the last 3 PTs I've taken. At first I wasn't worried, given this is my strongest section and I was sure everything would go back to normal, but I just finished BRing PT 63 and my actual score was a -8 and BR was a -6 (on a section labeled "easiest"). I completely screwed up an entire game and didn't catch it in BR because I never flagged it! I was feeling more prepared than ever to take the LSAT Flex May 19, and I was feeling more confident because I've been drilling the hell out of my weak points in LR for the past 3 months and have seen an improvement in that score, but what's the point of that increasing if LG is just going to go down? Do I back off the drilling on LR and focus more on LG these last 2 weeks, or do I just double up the studying??? It'll only be two weeks worth, what do you guys think? (Currently studying about 3-4 hours a day).

Hi everyone

I came across this question in one of my practice tests

"the statements above, if true, most strongly support which one of the following hypotheses?"

I am assuming this would be a strongly support question, how would you approach this type of question?

thanks

I have come across this question while writing a practice test:

"which one of the following, if true, provides the most additional support for the argument"?

Would this question be a strongly support question? If not how would I approach this question?

the additional support part in the question is throwing me off

In PT 35.S2.Q1, answer choice B states that the passage has no definitive conclusions regarding factual accuracy, but according to JY, there were definitive conclusions raised in the passage (probably on lines 23 and 53). I was really unsure about this because when I looked at the dictionary definition of "definitive conclusion" it seems like it is a conclusion that is final and no one can really question (which I don't think we get from this passage).

Any opinions on this matter?

Thanks!