Hey, guys! I'm having trouble understanding why B is incorrect. My reasoning for selecting B was that if the diseased male grouse were treated with antibiotics their sacs would show that they were infected and this strengthened the hypothesis because the females would see this on their sacs and would not select them because they were unhealthy. It looks like I've made some assumptions somewhere or am I even on the right path with my logic? I read two explanations that aren't close to mine.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-25-section-4-question-06/

Im having a little trouble understanding why answer choice D is correct. I understood the flaw that an absence of proof for something to be false, does not make it true the minute i read it.

However the wording in Answer choice D is confusing me. Specifically, " Rejects the possibility"

I'd love some inputs!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-3-question-10/

I have encountered certain questions where often means "Some". I had made a note about it until I came across PT37 S2 Q18 where in answer choice C says " often sacrificed" and it was eliminated because it said often based on one example.

I'd love an explanation for this question along with how to deal with "Often"

Thanks in advance!

I prepared for the September test for 6 months and averaged about a 157 on the prep tests I took. I want a 160 at least, but I fell short of that even though I felt better about the actual test than any other prep test. I ended up with a 151, and I’ve already signed up for December. I missed 11 in both LRs and RCand I missed 7 on LG (which is good for me). I honestly don’t know where to start now because I thought I had a decent grasp on the material. I have plenty of PTs left to practice with, but does anyone have any advice on honing these skills?

Like many (hopefully not too many!) others on here, I am disappointed with my September score and am retaking. A really rough reading comp section was the only thing keeping me from my target score, so I'm planning on drilling this shit into the ground. Any and all suggestions are appreciated.

Hey everyone,

This is my first post here... I've been kind of been hanging out in the 7sage shadows for a couple months now. I'm looking for some advice on how to process and/or handle what happened to me during (and leading up) to test day.

So my LSAT nightmare started last Tuesday. I was granted accommodations (extra time and a small group setting) in August. On my accommodation letter it had the name and phone number of my supervisor on test day. The letter instructed me to call this individual at least 48 hrs in advance of the test. This letter, as well as my ticket, had Saturday's test date listed on it. I called my supervisor on Tuesday of last week and he informed me that I was in fact writing on Monday (Sept. 18) because that's when he will be acting as supervisor. Ok. Fine. The OSAC information regarding accommodations states that test dates and times can change and that's why you're to report to a supervisor beforehand. The supervisor also informed me that LSAT would not be issuing me a new ticket with Monday's test date since I had been talking to him. Fair enough.

So Sunday night, the supervisor calls me (at 10:45 pm) and the first thing he says to me is "are you sure you're writing tomorrow"? Cue panic. He assures me everything will be fine and to meet him and my proctor tomorrow in front of a particular building at 8:30 am.

The first thing I do the morning of the test is lock my keys in my car. I let it go pretty quickly as I was already in LSAT world in my mind. I was determined to not let anything get in between me and this test. So my proctor shows up early (around 8:15 am) and we get to talking. Turns out they were ready to accommodate me on Saturday and even went looking for me/called my name out a bunch of times. Kind of annoying. But oh well... I kept telling myself: I'm here now right? Not going to let this get in my way.

So the supervisor shows up just after 9 am. The two other students who were writing with me cancelled, and one sabbath observer showed up who they had never even heard of. By the time they tracked him down, got me a room, and basically got their shit together.. it was after 11 am. So there goes all the food and liquid intake I had been planning for optimal performance. Still, I did not let this break me. I was ready for the test.

The room they stuck me in with the proctor was in probably the busiest building on this college campus and I swear the walls were made of paper. There was constant traffic in the halls... people were blaring music outside. I could literally hear all the conversations going on in the offices surrounding the room. Security was going up and down the halls with they walkies going off. Speakerphone convos were going on right outside the door. It was CONSTANT noise. I couldn't focus on keeping one line of the question stem straight, let alone an entire question.

Now keep in mind, one of my accommodations is small group setting because distractions can seriously affect my ability to concentrate and essentially remain sane. I tried to fight it but with ten minutes left in my first section (LR1), I cracked. Full blown panic attack. The whole nine. I had answered probably 5 questions by this point but with the distractions it became clear to me that all the breathing exercises in the world weren't going to get me out of this one. It was bad. The proctor stopped the time. Turns out she had been texting with the supervisor trying to get me another room the whole time because of the extreme noise levels.

By the time they were able to secure me a new and quieter room, it was over an hour later. So post-panic attack and sobbing for about an hour waiting for a room, I was left with essentially doing the whole first section in 10 minutes. I probably guessed about 3/4 of the entire section because of the time constraint. At this point I was ready to walk. But I gave the second section a go.. and I swear that LG section was sent to me from up above lol. It gave me my grove back and I don't feel super horrible about the rest of the test, despite the nightmare that preceded it.

My issue and question is whether or not I should report this to LSAC. They explicitly say that they will not be responsible for issues with test centres that are out of their control. I'm not super into the idea of cancelling my score because I want to see how I did on sections 2-5 of the test. My biggest fear is having them penalize me for the irregularities. The supervisor said that he will report it all as a formality, but I do not really trust him (for reasons that I think are pretty obvious lol). I'm not going to lie though, I was pretty crushed when I realized that my first section was not experimental. My biggest fear is seeing something like a 140 (or less) appear as my score. I'm just so torn on what to do. I've already signed up for December but I'm just super bummed out because I feel like this could have been avoided. I should have just shown up on Saturday. I'm beating myself up hard over this and I don't know what to do.

Sorry for the long winded post. Any advice would be much appreciated, just please try to be respectful.

Thanks!!

Hey everyone,

I underperformed so much on the September LSAT. I don't know what happened but I know my PT were way higher. Im going to retake in December. I studied with Kaplan and it was absolute garbage. Which 7sage package does everyone recommend for the next month and a half?

Hi there. I received my Sept LSAT score (167) last night and scored substantially lower than my prep-tests (avg173). I knew walking out of the test that my score would be lower as I screwed up the timing on my RC section pretty substantially and ended up rushing through the last passage, barely reading and answering the questions. My top school is NYU -- I was planning on applying ED and for the RTK scholarship. I am going to retake in December, but this eliminates the opportunity to apply ED and for the RTK scholarship ( I think?).

I guess I'm wondering if there are any other options-- is there any point in applying ED with my Sept. LSAT score and allowing my December score to come in later? Or is it possible to apply to the RTK scholarship with a Dec LSAT score (the application is technically due Jan 1st. but Dec. LSAT score release date is Jan 4th).

Applying as early as possible is something that has been emphasized so much by advisors that I guess I'm feeling apprehensive about a December retake, but I am confident that I can raise my score by at least 3 pts.

Any Advice would be much appreciated.

Hey guys! Here's the official Feb. LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the Feb. 2017 LSAT here!

Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the Sept. '17 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.

The only exception is you can say which sections were real or experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about September's LSAT!

Here's where you can see the current Real/Experimental Sections:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/12783/september-2017-lsat-real-experimental-sections-keywords

Have fun discussing!

I took the September 2017 LSAT and unfortunately didn't perform up to my potential. For various reasons, my undergraduate career thus far has been hectic and extremely time consuming. To be on the path of graduating in the normal time-slot of four years, I took five classes in a seven week summer semester and tried studying for the LSAT at the same time. Realizing my enormous mistake, I decided not to take the June LSAT, took the September LSAT, and didn't do as well as I should have. Given my extenuating circumstances and how I want to graduate undergrad this April, I am in a full course load right now and will be in the winter as well. My desire to go to a top law school is strong and I will study as efficiently as possible for an exemplary test score. That being said, I would love some feedback on how efficient the LSAT premium 7sage course is and if it will more than likely help me in achieving a higher score. A 20 point increase on the February 2017 LSAT would be great in my case, as I plan to be in an entering law school class of 2018. Any thoughts, experiences, and opinions would be awesome.

So I got my score and ultimately got a 157. I'm bummed but...what can you do? I bought the 7sage starter and will be playing catch up on studying today. Does anyone have any tips? I have a goal of high 160's.

any advice?

Hi everybody,

Now that I am finished with the CC, I was wondering how people with only the starter pack went about their LR drilling, since they don't have the LR bundle. Should I just mute the CC videos and try to quickly figure out the answers on my own? Should I type them up and save them (like I did with LG that weren't apart of a problem set?) I know some people just use the starter pack and succeed, so basically my question is how? I may upgrade to Premium in the next week but even so, I thought I should seek advice from more experienced 7sagers.

So I haven't gone grey yet. just keeping ya'll updated :)

Grey alert!!!!!!

Hey everyone. So I graduated college in May. I started out with a 144 for my diagnostic. Since then my highest PT has been a 162 and I've been studying full-time. I am very proud of my progress thus far. My goal is to get accepted to USC, UCLA, Georgetown, or Berkeley. My GPA is a 3.57. In order to do this I will have to get at least a 166 to even be considered. I feel like I will not be ready by December despite the fact that I am studying full-time. A moment of vulnerability here; I feel like crap being where I am. I am studying full-time in my parents house trying to stick to an 7 hour daily study schedule while I watch all my friends go off to medical school or law school or get great jobs. My girlfriend of 3 years just got into Stanford and I'm not even sure if I will be able to take a test by the deadline I set for myself, namely December. I feel like a disappointment to myself and it's so painful to feel so close to my goal and so far at the same time. I feel like I should take the test in June and get a full-time job or something in the meanwhile. I feel like the only people who might give me advice on this would give me bad advice, so I am asking the forum. The way I think about it is the following: I'd rather study longer and get a score that's good enough to get me into a good school possibly with money, than I getting into a worse school with no money. Where do you all stand on this? I feel like the 7sage mantra is take as much time as you need to get where you want to go, but I just don't know what to do. I want to thank everyone who took the time to read and respond to this in advance.

Hi! I am struggling to see why D is right over E. When I first solved this Q, I selected D, but after I did BR, I chose E.

D) I initially liked answer D. However, when I reread the stimulus, I focused on the part that says for MANY people, a high consumption of simple carbs will lead to excessive production of insulin. The stimulus says MANY, not ALL. So I thought D was too general/ strong. Maybe for some people, a high intake of simple carb does not lead to excessive production of insulin, and thus fat gain.

E) So this answer talks about people who do NOT produce an excessive amount of insulin. We don't know much about them, but we do know that eating simple carbs would cause less weight gain than those who produce an excessive amount. If they restrict ONLY their consumption of simple carbs, they will not lose weight. -> I thought this was not fully supported, but not entirely wrong. We don't know if they will or will not lose weight. I thought "WILL NOT" is pretty strong.

I view both D and E to be flawed, so I am not sure why D would be a more compelling answer.

What makes D's flaw less fatal? What makes D a more compelling answer?

I listened to JY's explanation and also searched Manhattan forum, and I still can't articulate exactly why D would be a better answer.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-29-section-1-question-08/

Hi everyone,

I'm about to go through the LR Drill packs, but before I do, I have a question about how to use them most effectively.

If I'm drilling only Flaw questions, for instance, should I drill them under timed conditions? In other words, should I pick out 25 and try to do those in 35 minutes? Or should I just not worry about time at all.

I'm at the stage where I have difficulty with certain question types, but I'm definitely beyond that "initial learning" stage.

Thanks so much for you help :)

I keep getting a 162. And I’m worried because I am planning to take the test in December. Any advice?

Why are most of the passages in RC science based?

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Fire Alarm went off during Section 3 (not experimental) in room and all of building. Extremely loud and lasted for over 5 minutes and less than 10 minutes (exam continued normally). This definitely adversely affected me.

Now, I had planned to make a 177+ as I've taken 33 consecutive practice tests (timed with experimental) and am consistently scoring in that range. With the fire drill, I think I still score around and above 170, but perhaps not by much. I don't know whether I should report the issue and/or lobby for a new test, or if the latter is even an option.

Any thoughts / similar experiences? "Be happy with 170+" isn't what I'm looking for, by the way.. It makes a difference.

I assume, we obviously do the memory method on the actual LSAT exam, correct? Or does it take too much time?

Hey, guys. I have some conflicting notes on something and was hoping for some clarification.

/A --> B

and

A ---> /B

are different things, right?

I wrote down:

/A-->B

=Either or; one of A and B must be in, the other is free to float.

A-->/B

=Not both; only one of A and B can be in, the other must be out.

This is what I wrote down from the course but I thought I saw something different in one of the explanations.

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if there is any interest out there to also blind review the hardest RC passage together each time we do a PT . Maybe we can set aside one separate day to do this. On previous RC tutoring sessions I have noticed blind reviewing RC to take at most 2 hours. I am working on seeing what time we can do this by seeing openings on 7sage calendar. I hope to find an opening on Sunday.

Let me know if there is any interest out there to do this.

UPDATE:

Thanks for all the interest. I went ahead and scheduled the blind review RC meetings for every Sunday at 7 pm. Please treat this blind review call the same as our LR calls by not checking your answers before hand. Also, please have a clean copy of the section and a pencil with you. We will first read the passage together and do low-high resolution summaries and then do the questions under time before going over them as a group.

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