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OK I should finish the LR curriculum tonight. I am really feeling much better about my grasp of the concepts, however I am still falling for traps. So my question is, do you feel it would be beneficial for me to use old practice tests and drill each LR section. Here is what I am thinking. I work 40-60 hours a week. I have a very demanding job and I am right at the start of busy season, so my work week will start being closer to the 60 hours a week, so I am trying to cram as much studying as I can into my day. I do typically take a hour for lunch. So I was thinking... that I could take a timed LR section at lunch, then blind review it in the evenings when I get off work 1-2 times a week. Then score, obviously. Do you think this practice would work??? I was thinking about using the earlier tests... as I do have copies of those. Or should I just wait until I am 100% done with the curriculum. I do not plan on using tests 36+ as they are part of the curriculum, but I thought this might work as far as practice during the day, as we are what 10 weeks out, I know every little studying I can do during the day will be beneficial.

I really don't have an option of taking the December test. September is kinda my do or die test... simply because starting in Aug/Sept my work schedule gets frantic. I am actually taking the week off before the test to get zen and calm... because my job is about to get that insane, but that is a whole other topic for another day.

what do you guys think? I am trying to figure out how to get 30-45 minutes of studying in during my lunch break, because I just eat salad and take a walk, and normally that takes 20 mins of the 60 minutes I get.

Any tips or tricks you used would be awesome! thanks guys!

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This is an answer choice:

C) not to be subsidized, it cannot be a profit-making institution

would this be diagrammed as: subsidized --> profit making institution

because of the double negative: not to be, it cannot

Please let me know!! Thanks in advance :D

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I am aiming for -1 or -2 on LG and I just finished LG Bundle (30 seconds ago) using @Pacifico attack strategy. I kept track of my timing and score for each game from PT 1-35. What should I do to improve further? I was thinking to put my results in an excel spreadsheet to find those games which took me 10 or more takes to hit the target time and fool proof them again? Or take PT 1-35 LG games in section formats under 35 minutes?

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Perhaps someone out there could help me out with this: on the LSAT, what exactly would it look like to "challenge the accuracy of the given evidence"? This phrase is commonly used as a wrong answer choice on Method of Reasoning questions and I've yet to see an instance where it is the correct answer. Many times it appears as a trap answer choice when an author challenges the context/cause/relevance of some evidence but isn't actually challenging the accuracy of the figure cited.

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Hey guys,

I just signed up with 7Sage a few weeks ago and am currently going through the curriculum (should be on track to finish early August). Surfing through past BR group discussions, it seems like a good idea to get an early start on organizing a BR group. I'm aiming to take the LSAT in December. Anyone else interested in getting the ball rolling on a December 2016 BR group?

Best,

Michael

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-2-question-08/

For this particular question, I'm having trouble understanding why answer choice E is incorrect. Because we know that the batteries that power electric cars come from nuclear or coal plants, and since we know that those power sources causes significant environmental damage, is it logical to state that there may not be a net reduction of environmental degradation? Saying that there won't be a reduction in environmental degradation seemed logical to me because it hints at 2 possibilities: 1. the considerable environmental damage caused by the battery production will produce the damage as would the emissions of an ordinary car. 2. The battery production will produce more damage than the emissions from a ordinary car.

I also had a hard time understanding why answer choice A is correct. The proponents beliefs seemed to talk about the abatement of environmental degradation specifically linked to a decrease in auto-emissions rather than an overall abatement of environmental degradation, while the author seem to not directly touch on the proponents point but rather mention an additionally concern of battery production. Even though battery production creates causes its own environmental damage, isn't it still the case that there is a decrease of environmental degradation that specifically arises from auto-emissions, because of the fact that electric cars don't have its own emissions. If that case is true, wouldn't the proponents stance hold and the environmental consequences aren't as worse as proponents believe them to be.

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I took the June LSAT and scored a 162, which is significantly worse than I performed on most of my PTs, and certainly not the score I need for my application. I've registered for the September LSAT, and want to be doing all I can within a certain budget to ensure my score is in the mid-170s, and not the low 160s. Maybe there is a better method for getting this information tailored to my specific circumstances, but perhaps you all can steer me in the right direction. Thanks!

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"Reasonable people.."

I got this wrong and then tried redoing it in blind review (I drilled this question type in a set of 40 questions). In BR I chose C. My approach to the problem the second time around was to diagram this:

RP --> ASW (first sentence)

RP --> AWS (second sentence)

---------------------------------------------------------

P --> RP (conclusion)

So I went into this thinking I needed to link progress and unreasonable people.

What confused me was the last sentence, which I assumed was the conclusion. I was not sure if progress or unreasonable people was the necessary condition. Then I thought if I substituted "depends on" with "requires" it would make unreasonable people the necessary condition, still I was not confidant my approach was correct.

I think A is irrelevant and D is wrong because we are not concerned with the subset that are unable to bring progress. Can someone help me understand why the others are wrong and why B is correct? Is my reasoning/approach to this question wrong?

Please help!!!

Thank you in advance.

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I know why the credited response (E) is correct.

However i'm having a tough time seeing how (B) and (C) are incorrect.

I initially picked (B)

My reasoning was that the opponent raises an important point: That irradiation fails to neutralize the bacteria that cause botulism and in fact aids it by concealing its warning signs. This seems to contradict the proponent's conclusion that there is no reason to reject irradiation as far as health and nutrition is concerned.

For (C) there appears to be two remedies for keeping food from being spoiled by bacteria the first is: irradiation brought up by the proponent and the second is chemical dip method brought up by the opponent. the opponent seems to bring up a consequence of the first remedy (failing to kill bacteria that cause botulism which can lead to serious food poising).

If someone could help me out with this that you be awesome, thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-1-question-05/

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Hi All.

Thanks to all who have taken the time to answer all my questions. It's time for me to give back. I'm sure there are various ways people are making their 10-20 fresh copies of the games. But this is how I do it and it literally cannot get any easier. Takes me less than 15 seconds per game to print. The big assumption here of course is that you gotta a physical copy of the test. So... here are the steps.

1. Get the TurboScan App. (Not free but costs you less than 1/2 of a cup of starbucks) 1 min.

2. Take a pic of the test page (fit it just right in your frame). 0.1 second.

3. From the Turboscan app, find that picture and choose the b/w option at the bottom right corner (It gives you photo, b/w color options if you tap through the same area). 2 seconds.

4. The App will automatically frame it for you so it's a perfectly straight copy even if your picture was crooked. And you can adjust the corners to make it perfectly straight for all my OCD peeps out there. This step is automatic but I just wanted to elaborate.

5. Print! If you have an airPrint print the you can do it directly from your phone and you can choose the # of copies you want. If you need more. Repeat steps 3 since you already have the picture. Just choose the game you want and print. If you don't have AirPrint, you can just email it to yourself and print from there.

I hope this helps those who are having problems making fresh copies the games !

#let's do this!!!

~ coolmama ~

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Hey everyone,

I'm studying for the September LSAT and have been at it a few months. Until recently, the way I've been setting up for games has been to create setups with initial rules and inferences in pen. Then, for each question I would add new information to my set up with pencil. This way I could easily erase from question to question and always go back to my original set up. However, I recently realized I would not be able to do this on the actual exams, because pens are not allowed (I know, stupid oversight).

So, now I feel a little a slower with games, trying to adapt to life without a pen. Each question I'm having to focus more of my brain's "RAM" on remembering what I shouldn't be erasing at the end of the question, instead of having my full processing power devoted to question itself.

I'm wondering how others approach their set up with a pencil. What strategies have people found to be effective? Do others do this so differently, that am looking at this all wrong?

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Hey 7Sagers, thanks for taking the time to read this and answer my conundrum. My issue is LGs; specifically - which boards to use and what the setup should look like. Unsurprisingly, if I can set the game up correctly I can answer any question choice. Even more so, if I know what type of logic game it is (during the 7sage course curriculum) I can usually get -2 questions per section. I tried JY's suggestion of repeating logic games with clean copies but when I repeat the game I remember the logic game and the board setup without fail - even after several days. This method has not helped me in improving PT logic games where I'ver never seen those games before; it's like my brain is learning by assigning a setup to specific variables and not the broader context of the game. What are some things that you guys can recommend to help sharpen my ability to decipher the games and to determine which boards should be used on games I've never seen before? My LG is my weakest area by far and it will be the key to increasing from my current 161 average to the upper 160s/low 170s that I'm aiming for. I'm very grateful for your suggestions.

Yours,

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Can someone help me with this one?

I don't understand why B is not right. The stimulus I thought was saying that if it's something you don't have control over, then you are not responsible for it. And Therefore, If it's a consequence of something you don't have control over, the you should be held responsible.

Then it says that everyone sometimes acts in ways that are a consequence of treatment they received as infants, so doesn't that make the inference that everyone sometimes acts in ways that they are shouldn't be held responsible for. So therefore, I don't understand how E is the correct answer but B is not supported. Because my thinking was that for E, it talks about adults only, and the stimulus says that everyone, including little children and like adolescents, sometimes acts in these ways that you shouldn't be held responsible for.

So doesn't that mean that you could have been like 12 and acted in some way that was a consequence of treatment you received as an infant, and then as an adult you never did that again. So how is B not the right answer because that's exactly the possible that it captures and E doesn't Also, for B, i was hesitant over its saying "commonly performed" but then, if everyone sometimes does it, that's commonly performed, is it not?

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Hey 7sage!

When will the explanations be available for the June 2016 exam? Also, will they be included if I bought a couple extra months on my ultimate pack? Thanks!

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Hello everyone,

As we know, the June 2016 scores were released. This was my second time taking it and my score DROPPED to an embarrassingly low figure.

I was scoring mid 160s on my practice tests, which is higher than my first LSAT score, so I thought I had made some progress. The highest I've ever scored was a 170 on a PT, but I've never been able to score that again, even on the same test. Normally I score perfectly on LG even on timed PTs, but LG was very difficult for me on this June LSAT. I ran out of time to even start reading my last RC passage, although RC is my weakest spot. And as for LR, I always think I understand it, but I must be making the same mistakes.

I've already started thinking whether law isn't for me. But before I give up my law aspirations completely, I will be trying one last time.

If anyone could point to any retake study schedules, please post. I was using the lawschooli and 7sage study schedules but I was wondering if there were specifically any retake schedules? Or for anyone who has taken the LSAT 2-3 times, pointers to give so I know how and on what to focus my time?

Thank you and congrats to everyone who is happy with their score!!! You did it! :)

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For this particular question, I'm not really sure why answer choice B is correct over answer choice C. In the LSAT, do motives usually apply to reasons relating to self-interest, such as profit-motive? Additionally, aren't presuppositions or assumptions not stated in the stimulus. Maria seemed to be directly attacking Lucien's intermediary conclusion that homelessness is caused by people's unwillingness or inability work.

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Hey everyone,

I just planned out my PT schedule from now until the September exam. I have been studying for 6 months and doing tests for about the past month or so. I'm hoping to take 28 PTs between now and September. I'm on track for two a week, since I want to cover all the 50s, 60s, and 70-77. I'll start taking three a week in September with Blind Review of course.

Does anyone think this is a good idea? Should my tests increase or decrease in the final month? I do not want to burn out but I also want to make sure I'm running on quality adrenaline/confidence going into the final week. My last PT would be September 21st, which would give me Thursday for a final Blind Review and Friday for rest. If anyone has any tips, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

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Hi everyone,

Sorry to create another retake advice thread. I scored a 169 on the June test and plan on retaking in September. I would really appreciate any advice on where to go from here since I burnt out pretty hard towards the end of my studying for the June test and don't want that to happen again!

On the test, I missed:

-1 LG

-2 RC

-9 LR (combined; -3 & -6)

I felt prepared going into the test, and fortunately I don't have test anxiety. During the test, I thought that I bombed the last 2 RC passages, so I was very surprised to see that I only missed 2 RC questions total. But missing 9 questions in LR is not typical for me. I would like to get a score at or above the 75th percentile for my target schools, so hoping to get a 171+. My practice tests were well above 169, so I know I scored below my ability.

I don't know where to begin studying for a retake. LGs are second nature to me now, and I rarely miss any LG questions on PTs. I felt I had improved in RC after I figured out a method that works for me, and apparently I did improve, but I still want to work on it so I can feel the same kind of mastery over it that I feel with LG. I've worked through every single LR question type drilling packet, and feel like I have an intuitive grasp of the questions, so I don't know how I should approach LR now. Looking through the questions I missed on the June test is bumming me out, because the questions I missed are question types that I had considered my strong areas during my prep so I think I made careless mistakes on the actual test.

My prep included the LSAT Trainer, the Powerscore LG Bible, the question-type drilling packets, drilling many RC sections, and 35+ timed PTs with intensive blind review.

Do you think I should purchase a 7sage course, or do something more tailored to my weaknesses? I can provide more specific information about the questions I missed if that would be helpful. Really appreciate any advice guys. Thanks!

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Hi!

I'm halfway through the grouping game problem sets, and my timing for these sets have been pretty abysmal. On average, I've consistently taken about twice as much time as J.Y's target times. At worst, I also find myself missing a few questions if I fail to divide up the game board when appropriate and/or getting bogged down with digesting the rules and inferences.

I was wondering if other test-takers also experienced the same kinds of timing issues when they began studying LGs, and if these difficulties eventually went away with more practice and the "foolproof method".

I understand that, if I was absolutely nailing these LGs under target time with 100% accuracy, there'd be no need to study. However, if taking twice as much time as the target time is unusual, then I probably need to slow my studying down and reevaluate.

Thanks.

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Dear Sir,

I just started LSAT and now entering the 3rd week.

Progress is being made. But I guess I practice differently and was wondering what you think about this? Please let me know your perspective.

So, traditionally, I guess most students will time themselves: 1:27 per question. But I don't understand the logic behind that if you are at the very beginning.

Instead:for each of the problem sets, of course, I follow the general steps, but then I do something different:

1) I try to translate the words into a diagram

2) I WRITE out each answer and exactly WHY I think some are right and some are wrong

3) I blind review with the words that I wrote to match how the "profesisonal-JY" arrive to there wrong or correct answer choices

4) Of the questions I get wrong, I then type them into word and go more in-depth why my brain's neuron went off track

The reason why I do this is because, as a professional golfer, it doesn't make sense for some one to begin going to the course and hit 18 if in the first place the person only knows how to hold the club or just have the ball hit.

Please let me know your thoughts.

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