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I just wanted a little clarification on the correct answer. I previously chose A as my answer choice, however the correct answer is E. The reason why I didn't choose E is because E refers to "cultural trends". Would cultural trends apply to fashion trends that the stimulus was referring to? I was a bit skeptical about this and therefore got it wrong :( Please explain! Thank you :)

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-78-section-1-question-15/

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LG Chart?

Hey guys,

Got this email in today from a 7Sager and I thought you could help! Here it is:

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Hi there!

I have been watching your Logic Games explanations for a while but just recently for the first time I saw a game with the "chart"... none of the prep books I used ever mentioned a "chart" but when I watch your explanations I'm thinking "wow these charts are so much more organized and helpful!"

BUT my test is in 3 days...lol and I am not used to thinking right away to do this kind of chart.. do you have any tips at all as to when I should be triggered to make one of these charts?

Thank you in advance.

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-75-section-3-question-04/

So for some reason I treated this as conditional question.

So I thought

Premise: (stimulus)

A (sickly birds)→(generally )smaller spleens

killed by predators→(generally) smaller spleens

Conclusion: (answer choice) (D)

Sickly birds→(generally)killed by predators

Assumption

killed by predators→(generally) sickly birds

....I was confused.

I should not use conditional signals for "generally" or "likely" sentences?

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I got this question right first but after BR when I just solved it with my logical intuition, but I got wrong since I made some logical diagram for the question.

Please clarify whether I had any error.

"Their new shows are all police dramas" : NS -> PD

(C) None of the shows that W&W produced last year that were not canceled were police dramas: /C(NSL) -> /PD = PD -> C(NSL) (It means every police drama that W&W created last year was cancelled

So if (C) is true, doesn't it help the premise (NS->PD) to create conclusion that most of new shows will be cancelled ( NS -m-> C) as it creates ( NS -> PD -> C(NSL) )? In other words, every police drama that W&W created last year was cancelled and new shows for this year is all police dramas, so it is highly likely most of new shows this year will be cancelled.

I think it would not be good to solve this question in this way but still logical appeal of (C) confuses me.

Please help me to understand it.

Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-2-question-25/

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Can someone help me understand this one? I got it wrong and I understand why the correct answer is correct but not why the incorrect answers are incorrect.

I thought the flaw was Tim using his grandpa as a counterexample to the experts position. My thought was even though the experts had no way of knowing about this specific case, if they conducted studies/experiments they would have accounted for outliers such as Tim's grandpa.

A) This is correct because Tim uses counterexample (his grandpa) to refute a probabilistic conclusion (it is very likely to be harmful to the smokers health). The reason this is correct is also because "very likely" allows for other cases such as Tim's grandpa. I was wavering between this one and B but went with B.

B) I really can't figure out a way to eliminate this answer choice. The information was specific because it was T's grandpa, the only thing I can think of is maybe "information unavailable to experts in the field" and the fact that perhaps the experts were including outliers in their research/assessments prior to making a claim about the future health of smokers. ???

C) I think C is wrong because the experts do not explicitly discount the information of Tim's grandpa, they never mention it.

D) This I'm completely lost on.

E) It never indicates experts that are in agreement with each other and how they derived that agreement, it's focus is on discounting/eliminating their stance on the health of long term smokers.

Thank you in advance, I am most appreciative.

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I went through JY's explanation for this question, but i think that explanation ignores this reasoning with the choice D.

I'm still not sure why the credited answer is correct and another one wrong.

I think C perfectly supports the idea that stylistic portrayals are important for comedies because due to C that is where comedies should find humor and "humor is important for comedy". So the criticism because the film has stylistic portrayals (non-realistic) is misguided. in this case resulting film is funny" supports the idea that that it's funny due to stylistic portrayals. Why is C not correct? Unfortunately JY video glosses over this answer choice.

D is really weird because the right answer has an issue that can by itself be a classic flaw question: "a film is successful doesn't mean that it's criticism for not being realistic is misguided". I think that itself makes D a poor choice.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-2-question-06/

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If retaking LSAT, is Dec better or Feb?

Hello everyone!

I am taking the Sept LSAT .. which is this Saturday.. however, I only had 1 full month to study so I'm not confident enough that I will do well. So now I am thinking of retaking it in either Dec or Feb. I think Feb is a better time because I will resume full time work after this week and may not have as much time to study. But, I am also worried that if I take it in Feb, most spots are already filled up in the schools I want. So I am debating between Dec and Feb....

Thoughts anyone?

Thank you!

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Question about this question and the answers, particularly C and D. The question is a resolve the paradox in which we are told that auto safety experts are concerned about the "increasing popularity" of SUV vehicles, after being told that they are "safer" than small cars in the even of a accident, and that experts have cited their increasing pop as an alarming trend after looking at traffic fatality statistics.

My thinking for C was that if there are more people inside of an SUV, than all other things equal, there would be more people involved in a accident with an SUV than involving a small car, so that would increase the probability of an individual sustaining injuries and/or fatalities in any given accident involving an SUV vs. a small car.

JY in explaining C, comes up with an equation involving this answer which is completely out of left field and that I have no clue where he gets. With D, the correct answer says that their are more fatalities on average between collisions involving small cars and SUV's. My question is that why would the increasing popularity of SUV be an alarming trend, if it is the case that more fatalities occur on average between SUV and malls cars, then wouldn't the increasing pop of the SUV be a good thing, because it would decrease the proportion of SMALL cars and increase the proportion of SUV because b people are dring them instead of msall cars, thereby decreasing the likelihood of collision between small and large cars and lowering the average number of fatalies by decreasing the overall frequency of such occurrences?

Now I'm anticipating that someone will say that "just because they (SUV) are more popular that doesn't mean people will more instead of small cars, but then I don't know how you are supposed to interpret that fact then. Are we supposed to thing that there are therefore more SUV IN ADDITION to small cars on the road now, and that there are now a lager number of cars on the road in total, and that every the popularity means that no one will in fact drive a SUV INSTEAD of a small cars. Is that an invalid interpretation of "assumption". TIA

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-75-section-1-question-06/

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-2-question-21/

I'm trying to understand where my thinking went wrong here, because the truth is that even after spending a lot of time with this question, I know I could make the same mistake on a similar question in the future.

The stimulus says that "A government study indicates that raising speed limits to reflect the actual average speeds of traffic on level, straight stretches of high-speed roadways reduces the accident rate. Since the actual average speed for level, straight stretches of high-speed roadways tends to be 120km/hr (75mph), that should be set as a uniform national speed limit for level, straight stretches of all such roadways."

I'm reading the stimulus with a critical eye, so immediately I'm thinking: "Well, the average speed might tend to be 75mph, but maybe the actual average speed on some stretches in some places of the country is much lower, and in other places much higher. So maybe instituting a "national speed limit" that is uniform across all locations would actually lead to more accidents. What justifies the speed limit being set uniformly? Why not adjust it specifically for each stretch of roadway based on the actual average speed for that location?"

So I read down, looking for an answer choice that speaks to this apparent flaw (as I see it) in the reasoning, an answer choice that tells me why the adopted speed should be uniform. So of course I picked answer choice B. "Traffic laws applying to high-speed roadways should apply uniformly across the nation."

I DO see now that answer choice B leaves out an important element (it doesn't justify why THIS particular law should be adopted), but with my concept of the argument's flaw in mind, I didn't see answer choice E as viable. I got to the answer choice still thinking that the question of whether adopting this traffic law uniformly across the country would in fact reduce the "rate of traffic accidents" was still open to question.

At least answer choice B seemed to address the gap (as I saw it) in the argument.

Where was I off in my thinking?

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Hey Guys,

Question about PT 76, Part 2 (LR), #25:

The answer choices really messed with me because I was between c and d. C plays with the negatives a lot. C says: NONE of the shows that Wilke and Wilke produced last year that were NOT canceled were police dramas.

Can somebody translate this? What do the two negatives mean? Do they mean a positive?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-4-question-25/

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I am just now getting into the habit of prephrasing and I'm not necessarily recognizing common flaws, not immediately anyway. I understand the common flaw listed included in the curriculum may not be exhaustive. There are still questions that I'm not able to prephrase at all. I know some people say prephrase on all question types but The LSAT Trainer says not on all. Is it more advantageous to memorize the common flaws or just be able to recognize the flaw? I ask about it being more advantageous because of answer choices for MOR or flaw/descriptive weakening questions? Obviously memorizing would be more advantageous for those question types but what about overall? I'm sure I'll be able to recognize them with continued studying but I'm wondering if I need to squeeze in flash cards for them or something?

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Hello,

How did you guys translate question 9 in the quiz to lawgic? I read the sentence like this "without a will testifying the transferal (WTT), the state of California will auction the properties (AP)." /WTT --------> AP

I am bit confused about the translation in the lesson. The two ideas selected in the video are "will testifying transferal (WTT)" and "California has no choice (/CC) ." /WTT --------> /CC or CC --------------> WTT. If I were to approach this question mechanically, this makes sense. But what is the sentence actually saying? The confusing bit for me is what the CC here means when you take the contrapositive (California has choice---- to do what?).

Any thoughts? Thanks

Admin edit: This is the link:

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-on-group-3-translations-to-lawgic/

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Hello!

I was confused between (B) and (C).

I thought the basic structure of argument in passage A is that since something has a bad assumption, so it doesn't work and thus must not be used.

I understand (C) is a good answer choice, but I wonder how (B) is different from (C).

It seems economic models, which presume rationality of actors, have indeed a bad assumption, so it must not be used to predict human behavior.

I would appreciate if you clarify difference between (B) and (C) and explain me why (C) is better than (B).

Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-3-passage-3-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-3-passage-3-questions/

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The conclusion here is that: Athletes who need to improve muscle strength should not use the engineered food.

Premises: Hormones produce growth in connective tissues rather than in muscle mass, which does not improve muscular strength

So, I was stuck between answer choices "A" and "C"

I tried the negation test and thought without both of them the argument falls apart.

I chose "A" because "C" was too strong and thought it was an sufficient assumption.

I'm having a hard time eliminating "A" because, I'm assuming if muscle mass does not increase strength, the premises of the argument falls apart and thus breaks the conclusion.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-31-section-3-question-21/

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Hello guys, so I just had a realization that I did not want to face but I might have no choice. So my goal score is a 165 and I have taken a total of 11 PTs. My scores were 158,164,161,161,164,162 for the first 6 tests, which were fine by me and I felt as though I can take the September test and get pretty close to my target score. HOWEVER, here is my issue. I recently took PTs 73-76 in order to gear up for the September LSAT during the past week or two and I scored 158,158,159, and a 154 (which is what made me write this.). Seeing that 154 just sucked man because I was hoping to be ready by September. I'm now realizing that I may have to take the December and February(if needed) tests instead. Anyway, i have a few questions for you guys. 1. Am i making the right choice by postponing? 2. From where I'm averaging, is a 165 possible by December? Im asking this question with my recent scores of 158,158,159 and 154 in mind. These recent PTs seem to have been more difficult for me as my averages have dropped. 3. If a 165 is possible, what is the best possible approach I can take in my studying from now until December? I would appreciate ANY suggestions because I'm willing to hear out all advice. I was taking PTs almost every other day in order to get ready for September but Im now realizing that I might have made a mistake with that. Should I take less PTs per week and spend more time on BR? I would appreciate the feedback guys. I really want to be averaging a 165 by December so I want to make sure i approach studying the right way since I had to figure out the hard way that only 3-4 months of studying isn't going to cut it.

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(Link to explanation for ease of access: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-2-game-2/ )

"Each of the following could be a complete and accurate list of the researchers who learn both S and Y EXCEPT:

A) H

B) P

C) HL

D) HP

E) LP"

I am having a really difficult time understanding this question. How can 4 of the ACs ALL be complete and accurate? As far as I understand it, a list that is complete AND accurate can take only one form... the one with all of the correct elements listed. So I don't understand what this question is asking for at all. I wasn't even able to understand the explanation because I couldn't comprehend what the question is asking for.

Please help me understand this one, thanks!

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This question came up on the last BR group call this Wednesday. I'm really curious what you all think about this question! I'd also love to know what your strategies and approaches for tackling this question are. It's a point of disagreement question which (I was so confident that I knew how to easily identify the correct answer to and that I haven't had much of a problem with but it still) defeated me. With the help of some 7sagers I was able to understand what I did wrong. Thanks @Daniel.Sieradzki @twssmith Thom, and @"Cant Get Right" for helping me see my mistakes and convincing me not to go back and redo everything in the CC!

I wrote out a page --a love letter so to speak---for this question in an attempt to give myself the best chance of never making the same mistakes that I did on this question again. I was between choices B and D and I had issues seeing why the correct answer was correct.

Primarily, my first careless mistake was ignoring/not discriminating enough between the meaning of "to the satisfaction of ALL skeptics"..."ALL" I selected an ac with a massive red flag sweeping generalization. Second mistake-- not eliminating B because Chin does not address extrasensory perception in terms of "if it were a real phenomenon." My third failure was that I did not correctly apply the conclusion from Chin's statement (compared to Waller's) and the answer choice as to identify which point they disagree on.

It was interesting that on analytics this question has a high degree of difficulty and most people selected the same incorrect answer I did. So basically the test writers exploited my careless mistakes with the convoluted nature of the real answer choice....well played LSAC

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Last comment sunday, sep 18 2016

So this happened

2 weeks back I was ecstatic cuz PT's were actually being sane.

PT 70 - 172 (I was like wut O.O)

PT 71 - 168

PT 72 - 171

Then

PT 73 - 166

PT 74 - 167

PT 76 - 167

PT 77 - 165

*(skipped PT 75 for December prep if needed)

and latest PT 78 got a 164. Now either I had a split personality take over one week/ the earlier 70's were not representative, OR .. hmm I actually have no clue.

I need some thoughts from the wonderful people out there, and if similar things have happened to you guys and how to deal with life (lol)

Also! It's my LR that has suffered. It was averaging -3 to -4 now its gone back to -4 - -7 which is rather frightening. PT 78 I actually managed a -8 in one of the LR sections...

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Last comment saturday, sep 17 2016

Sick a Week Before Test

I'm in need of advice. I've been feeling unwell since the beginning of this week, and I thought it was just another burnout. So I lightened my LSAT workload but kept doing school and work as usual. However, some flu symptoms showed up yesterday and I feel really sick today. I sat down to take a PT this morning, and felt extreme fatigue and had a horrible headache. I'm really worried for the test next weekend. I've been prepping for a long time, and I have been hitting my target score before this week. What should I do?

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lawlz so this question is a monster, but watching JY's explanation helped.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-2-question-24/

He explains that the larger argument pattern is:

A --> absurd

not(absurd)

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not (A)

This really helped clarify what I was seeing here. BUT what I can't really fully understand is why we even need to further connect A-->absurd. Isn't A--->absurd already spelled out to us as a premise? Shouldn't we just accept that is what we're given and prove that the necessary assumption is not(absurd)? I understand how "popular" connects "intending pleasure" to "sales figures" but am failing to understand this on a larger level, I think.

w00t for last minute fine tuning with monster questions!

thanks in advance for any clarification here!

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Hi Friends :)

I'm feeling pretty good and ready and confident for 9 *HOLY COW* days from now. Not feeling terribly enthusiastic about taking another PT this weekend. Not sure it'd be that useful. But still might for routine's sake.

What're your thoughts? Are you going to take a PT this weekend?

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LG is consistently my worst section on PTs. When I try a Logic Games section without the pressure of finishing in 35 minutes, I usually do pretty well (maybe 2 or 3 wrong answers), but when I do a timed section, I'm getting 8 or 9 questions wrong and sometimes I run out of time completely.

I think my problem is keeping track of the time, though I don't have this issue with LR or RC. I feel confident in my ability to make inferences and diagram games, but I'm sure there are ways to improve that as well.

Any tips on keeping time/moving quickly through logic games? Am I just being impatient? It's just frustrating because I can see improvement in every other area that I'm working on.

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