Hey y'all,

So unfortunately I cancelled my score from Saturday's test. I took the test at Pace NY and there was construction being done on the roof of the building and as I'm sure you can all imagine, the incessant banging of pipes and jackhammering of concrete didn't make for an efficient test site and it certainly didn't complement the Reading Comp section very well.

The good news is that I took the test, cancelling my score after, and I really believe I was well prepared, thanks to the months of studying aided by 7sage. I do think, however, I can better my timing, I ultimately cancelled the score because I couldn't risk the possibility that the distractions screwed me up on things I know I could otherwise have been positive about.

BUT, now that I have time to do some more prep, I want to look at bettering my timing. When I time myself and take pts on my own, I finish sections in 33 minutes or so, but both times I took the actual test (last October and Saturday) I fell apart. Of course distractions were at an all time high on Saturday because of the crazy amount of noise from construction but now that I am taking the test in December I'd like to better prepare getting my timing down to a science. I'm thinking maybe I should start taking tests with other people.

Does anyone know of any programs or group that facilitate group tests? If not, would anyone in the NYC area be interested in maybe putting a group together this way we can take the exam under more realistic conditions?

P.s. if anyone else was at the Pace location and feels the construction was an overwhelming distraction, LSAC is being very accommodating and investigating all the reports and will either offer a make up or reimbursement. Be sure to get your complaints in to them if you need to!

Even though I had written close to 39 prep tests, I did feel much more nervous on the actual LSAT. And I tried to keep as calm as I could by relaxing and doing fun things on the day before but I realized it's hard not to be nervous. For people like me, who have wanted to become a lawyer since they were 10, the LSAT pretty much determines whether you make it or not. You try to forget it but it's really something you can't get rid of completely. That being said, I didn't lose my head, and kept as calm as I could I be. I think my adrenaline rush helped me go faster and I finished the reading comp and first logical reasoning with 5 minutes to spare. And I also finished the logic games and second logical reasoning without feelings of impending doom.

Overall feelings:

The reading comprehension: the first passage was easy, second was by far the most difficult and the other two were okay.

Logical Reasoning: the first was pretty easy, the second was tough, many questions I had to really think about and make an educated guess.

Logic games: not as easy as I expected, time consuming, had to do a lot of brute forcing, and last game I ran out of time so guessed last 2-3 questions.

All in all, it wasn't terrible, no surprises, and I felt it went okay. I wasn't coming out of the exam crying, or wanting to cancel it. BUT I can't tell you for the life of me of what my predicted score could be. I just have no idea. Is this normal ?! And do people who scored in the 160's and 170's

ever feel this way after their exam. ( I was scoring high 160s and even a 170 the day before the exam).

Hello, I am currently scoring at 158 consistently, yet am aiming for a 163 at the least. I have been studying for a while and have seen my score already rise by 12 points. Can I make further ground?

Would anybody like to partner up online to keep each other sane, accountable and productive for the February 2015 LSAT? :)

For anyone who had LR (25), RC (27), LR (26), LR (26), LG (23), do you know which LR sections were real? TLS says the two real sections featured an Irish mace and a parrot. I remember those questions, but I don't remember where they were in my setup.

Hi Everyone,

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed elsewhere! I looked but couldn't see anything.

My question is, are you restricting your timing when practicing RC questions, or are you just timing yourself to see when you're finished? I have been restricting my time between reading the passage (and summarizing as I go), then restricting the time again to writing a summary for each paragraph and the overall summary, and restricting my time to answering the questions.

J.Y. said to not restrict your time too much when first practicing... maybe 12 minutes for harder passages. But it's hard to set up a timer if you don't know how hard the passage is before you read it. That's why I'm wondering if people have been just marking down how long it took them, but not actually setting a timer.

Thank you for your input! I like reading how other people are practicing.

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Hi,

Reading Comp is my weakest link. I have a lot of room for improvement and I was wondering if you guys could share your strategies (of course successful ones). I try to usually follow the VIEWSTAMP method (views, structure, author's view, and main point), but that seems to get me 65-70%.

Speculators... come one come all. What do we think, hope, pray that the curve (170) will be?

For historical purposes... and because I find myself with an abundance of time now that I am done with the beast... here are the last few curves.

PT 68 -11

PT 69 -11

PT 70 -11

PT 71 -13

PT 72 -12

I felt very strong on everything but games ( my trouble spot from the start ) but I feel they were perfectly normal. Nothing crazy as in recent past exams, I just suck at games. That said, I thought the other sections were quite normal too, maybe even a little softer, so I'm going to go with -10 as my guess. That said, I would very much relived if it turns out to be a -12 or -13...who wouldn't?

For perspective, the averages for my 5 most recent, 10 most recent, and 35 most recent PTs, were all within 1 point of each other. My individual scores were all over the board... but my averages for those groups were pretty uniform and if my guess on the curve is right, I'll do about 2 points better than my "average" thanks to strength in my non-LG sections.

Anyone else care to share?

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just a quick question for you guys. i really appreciate any feedback

i just took the sept lsat, but I am thinking about taking the dec. test as well. I was wondering if i have to cancel my sept score in order to take the dec test. I am nor nervous about, nor will I be disappointed in, my score as I am proud of the preparation that I did for the past few months. that being said, I am trying to be as realistic as possible and believe that test day jitters got the best of me; I do not think that I am going to hit my PT/target score. I literally felt like I could take another test the same day and hit that mark no problem lol.

I would certainly like to see how I did and want to make sure that if I cancel, I wont lose that chance. Also, any opinion you have on taking multiple tests in terms of how that is perceived by admissions offices would be greatly appreciated as well!

thanks in advance for all of the help!

Good morning and good luck to everyone! I will be leaving in 1 hour

Is the LSAT administered outside the US (like in the UK) different from the US one?

So I had the tiny desks which aren't even big enough to spread the exam out on. Meanwhile, the other three classrooms at my university had full size desks. I'm not going to file a complaint....just wanted to gripe. There, now I'm done.

I barely finished my last PT on time.

I'm in my target range but don't want to miss it.

Any tips on top time savers - things that can make a difference when you're in range before test day, but don't wanna mess it up? (ie staying strict about skipping)?

I caught myself daydreaming a bit on my last few PTs. And I barely finished on time.

I know daydreaming sounds crazy because time is so precious, but imagine part of it is because my mind wanted a break - given that we must stay so mentally focused at an intense level throughout a long test.

Does anyone have tips for keeping mentally alert throughout the exam?

I have some ideas:

1. Awareness - if I catch it happening, I can remind myself to stay on task - I can daydream after the test ;-)

2. Maybe on test day the pressure will keep me moving quickly.

3. Use the desire to daydream as a signal for a mental break - so take a few seconds to do less mentally taxing tasks ie bubble in answers (I bubble in parts), or look over for any mistakes.

4. If I catch myself daydreaming, look ahead a few pages to remind myself that I have lots to do - and some of the later stuff is probably harder, so more incentive to move my ass and stay focused.

Any other ideas?

Hi all, I took the June LSAT & got 155. I knew I hadn't prepared enough so I signed up fro September and have been studying A LOT. My scores have been consistently 160, 161 and the day before yesterday I scored 164. I took a prep test this morning and scored 153! I'm wondering if I should take another one today or tomorrow, or just let my brain rest. My friends are telling me I am burnt out and need to relax, but going into the real LSAT with my last practice test being a 153 is super scary. What do you guys think? Have any of you had this happen and then bounce back on LSAT day?

Thanks all advice is appreciated :)

I am having many problems with this, please help

I am taking LSAT this coming Saturday.

I have been panicking and stressed out for the past 3 weeks and came to a decision to take another LSAT next year. It would have been ideal if I could move my test date to December but my baby is due 2 days before the test date so, it is not going to work.

I decided to go ahead and take September LSAT just to experience what it feels like to take actual LSAT and how I would do on actual test compare to my practice tests.

I am listening to "the Law school admission game" audio book, and the author says not to take the test unless I feel ready.

She says most likely the scores won't be averaged out (I also looked up schools I am interested in and they said they won't be averaging scores out).

What could be a reason for her to say not to take the test then?

She doesn't really says why in the book. She is just strongly against it.

She says to withdraw from the test 24 hours before the test if I do not feel ready.

Any ideas as to why?

I'm so nervous, I suffer from a wandering mind, and I got a 150 on my last prep test, I mistakenly bought a book with the most recent test in it from 2000. I've been studying since April and I just need more time. My only question is, if I take it twice, will schools average my score, or will they take the higher score? Is anyone else considering December already? I'm not being pessimistic, I'm just trying to be realisitic.

Thank you!

Hey guys, I've been hearing from various sources that pattern games have been popping up on the recent LSATs. However, I'm not sure what exactly a pattern game is. Could anybody refer me to some examples of pattern games? Tried googling already, but didn't find much :/ LSAT blog's classification page says PT 20 Game 3, and PT 23 Game 4 are pattern games. Just wanted to confirm and maybe find some other examples.

Also side note, I noticed that every PT question explanation vid has tagged keywords. Is there a search function on the site that lets you search for questions based on keywords?? That would be really helpful!

Thanks!

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I previously dismissed the idea of chaining that JY advocates in the In/Out course videos, but I'm beginning to think it may be more effective.

Thoughts?

I'm wondering if Mr. Ping has any good pointers on how to ration the space on the page, especially when dealing with questions that may require copying down the game board several times to test the options. Usually I'd just write down the game board once and then write lightly enough when filling it out with the different sets of elements, so that the markings can be erased easily with one single stroke of the eraser before I need to fill in the other set.

Any tips/guidelines on what to write on your review sheet?

Hi All

I'm wondering if it's best to start with later answer choices on some of the harder LG questions (rule suspension, 5 IF). Obviously these are time sinks intended by the test makers - especially because if you don't notice any special restrictions you need to try all choices... so it seems like they purposely make the answer choice later ones (E,D..) So is it in our interest to start with later answer choices if we need to test through them?