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So for the past couple of PTs I took, I always did well on the first LR section (avg -2) and got a couple more wrong on the second LR section (avg -4 to even -6). I noticed that on the second LR I get even some of the easiest questions wrong. This doesn't happen when I take a long break between my first LR and second LR. Also, I tried taking the second LR first and the first LR later, and the same thing happened. I scored better on the first LR section I took, even though it was technically the second LR section. I'm assuming this is because I get worn out and lose concentration. Any advice on how to fix this?

P.S. My LR BR score is about -2 in total.

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Has anyone tried LSAT Wizard's logic game methods? and how do you feel about incorporating that with JY's method? I recently watched LSAT Wizard's videos and I feel like it is quiet helpful but also feel like I'm even more confused on how to learn LG

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Something I have been reflecting on, and I think can help some of you who just started on the LSAT journey are some of the hacks I gained over time. I call them the LG sixth sense. When doing questions, sometimes, you can just feel whether you did something wrong. For example, when you do your acceptable situation question, you can learn from that whether you properly diagrammed the board; when you see a lot of CBT/MBT/CBF questions, you can probably assume that this game can be split into very explicit sub-boards; when you run into a local question stem, but no clear big inference pops up, you probably missed a rule or misunderstood something. These just hacks that came to me after review lot of games critically.

Do you guys have some hacks that you have developed over time for LGs? If so, why not share it? Thanks, and cheers =)

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Hi everyone,

I had been practicing with the LSAT official books (50s, 60s, 70s) and I recently purchased the 80s via 7sage. I noticed that in the 80s, there's a bit of a shift with the LR. I can't quite describe the changes, but I feel like there is an increased of "debatable" questions/questions that push you to make assumptions in ways that earlier tests didn't... for example, in PT 83 section 1 #18 (LR):

If the standards committee has a quorum, then the assembly will begin today at 6:00. If the awards committee has a quorum, then the assembly will begin today at 7:00. (MBT)

In the explanation, it says that we should "safely assume" that if the assembly starts at 6 then it does not start at 7 and vice versa, however, I feel like this prompt doesn't necessarily show any indication that both things couldn't happen. I made the correct assumption based on the answer options and the wording "will begin today" (something can only "begin" once), but the greater point is, it seems like the newer LSATs include more subtleties and newer patterns like this question.... am I crazy or am I on to something?

If I'm not crazy, then for those who have scored 165+, I'm curious how you adapted to these changes.

I had been scoring in the high 160s, low 170s for the earlier PTs, but my score dropped to low 160s on both the real LSAT and on 80s PTs. I have 2 more fresh 80s that I haven't taken yet, and I'm struggling to figure out how to prepare leading up to the November test. I'd love to hear others' experiences on adapting to subtle changes in LR.

Thanks!

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Dear 7Sagers,

Thanks to the community and the great material here on 7sage I received a very pleasing 160 on the November LSAT Flex.

I tell you because I’ve seen a lot of discouragement and disappointment in the forum on score release day!

I first took August 2020, got a 154, score preview cancelled that score.

Second I took September, I got the shredder game (look it up) I bombed LG, ended up with a 151 on my permanent LSAT record.

I have averaged 158, across 30 PT’s and am fairly consistently improving... when this 151 came, I was very disappointed but I jumped back in right away for November!

I took the test 11/10/20, afternoon.

Program shut down in the middle of RC passage, someone also knocked on my door which was distracting. But I pushed through... kept focus as much as possible.

I got a 160 score today. I am so delighted.

All this to say, I felt hopeless a few weeks ago, but I started drilling games, doing 8-10 games a day. I have thoroughly worked and understand at least 80% of all games! I explain them to anyone who will listen. I really visualize.

As for strategy, imagine your score with a -0 on games, which you may be able to achieve by the January 16th administration! Work your games, read some passages and outline them to yourself! You can recover from a dropped score! I did! I believe in you! Message me if you need any help!!

All Best!

Heather

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Hi all! Hope you're having all having a good day.

I was wondering if you could share your tips on getting better at RC. I used to have consistent -6 and started moving downwards to -10 and now scored -14 on PT 65. I was pretty confident with reading when I started LSAT but now I am a bit short on time and really concerned about getting more than half of the questions wrong.

I do timed PT then read all the passages again during BR to come up with a better LR, HR. And clearly it seems like it's not working and I'd greatly appreciate any help. :)

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I just wanted to clarify when to use not both (F---->/C) vs a bi-conditional (F/C). My current understanding is that if the in/out game has only two categories, I should use the bi-conditional representation because it represents the only possibilities because the two variables, in this case "F&C", cannot be in or out together. Whereas I should use the not both representation when there are more more than two groups because while the variables do not have to be together, there are other categories that they will be able to go in.

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Do the number of problem sets we're given for different types of LR questions reflect the frequency in which we will see them on actual LSAT tests? For example, we are given 24 Flaw/Descriptive Weakening sets, but only 3 AP sets. Does that mean that on actual LSAT tests that there are likely to be more Flaw questions?

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Hello All,

I have taken the LSAT a number of times, and most of the time my score is unsatisfactory in comparison to what I had been PTing. Most recently, I scored a low 160 when I had been averaging 170+ the last 7 or so PTs previously. Any advice on what I could be doing wrong?

LG I have down to -0 and RC I know I can improve. I think most of the issue is LR, where I feel like the questions I PT are so much different (and easier) than the ones that show up on the real exam. I don't strictly recreate exam day conditions during PT, but maybe even less than ideal conditions (people walking around, visual/audio distractions, etc.) and yet I still do well on PTs and not on the official exam.

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks y'all

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Hi everyone! I scored a 158 on the July LSAT with about a month of prep. I'm taking the September LSAT and am seeking a tutor to help bring me into the 160s, willing to pay, let me know if you can help :)

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I finished the 7sage Core Curriculum and read the loophole in October 31, 2025. In mid-November took a PT after and got a 156 (BR 163). My goal (even though it might sound crazy right now) is to get 170+, ideally in the mid to high 170s (aiming to take the test in April 2026). My main weakness is LR. After reviewing my incorrect answers extensively in my Wrong Answer Journal, I identified some recurring weaknesses, including 1) NA, 2) SA with conditional reasoning, 3) MBT/MSS questions and 4) parallel reasoning question types.

I work full time and study 2-4 hours a day after work and on the weekend I study 6-10 hours a day. However, I am not sure if I am using my time wisely. Could someone please give me some advice on the following:

  1. When should I move on from drilling each question type? For the past week and a half, I've been doing 5 easy, 5 medium and 5 hard questions for NA (unlimited time) and then thoroughly reviewing why I got questions wrong and analyzing why each answer is incorrect/correct. My accuracy rate is about 80%-100% on the easy/medium questions but on the hardest ones it is more variable. Should I keep drilling until I get a 100% on all the hard questions? Honestly, I don't know when that is going to happen and I'm worried I will burn through all the material before I'm ready.

  2. My plan is to focus on doing these 5 easy/5 medium/5 hard question drills and reviewing my wrong answers for the 4 question types mentioned above for the rest of December. After I finish that, should I a) drill all my weak question types under timed pressure, b) do a timed LR section, or c) do an entire practice test?

  3. To ensure that I'm retaining the information I'm learning, should I be doing a mix of LR question type drills? (i.e. once I finish both NA and SA drills, should I do a drill with both question types together)?

  4. If I am aiming for April 2026. when should I begin doing entire timed practice tests?

Thanks so much for your help!

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I have studied LSAT for a while, but I have a timing issue. I recently completed PT 64 and made -12 but -1 in the blind review. Getting -1 in the blind review gives me some confidence that I'm smart enough to get good score on the test, but as long as I cannot complete it within the time limit, there is no way I can get 165+ on LSAT. I think my reading speed is slow and is not very accurate in reading comprehension under the time constraint. Thus, I want to ask anyone how to improve a speed issue and accuracy. Any help will be a great benefit to me!!!

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I have been doing LR drills with specific question type tags in the obsolete format to make sure I won't use up questions from Current Format prep tests that I will end up taking. (I want scores/analytics for prep tests to be as accurate as possible). Is this an okay way to study and improve? Or do the LR questions differ from obsolete to current format so drastically, that I am actually hurting myself by practicing in this format? #help

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Looking for a group of motivated individuals who want to learn, progress, and prioritize the LSAT. People who can forge together and keep each other accountable on studying and practicing. I graduated from U of M -Dearborn with a BA in English Literature and double Minor in Criminal Justice and Writing. I'd be willing to help with personal statements in our study group as well.

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These questions. DAH.

I went with C for 22 and D for 27. I even got them wrong in BR. I know these questions are pretty weird, but I would love help understanding why the correct answers are correct and why the answers I chose are wrong (though mostly the former).

Thanks in advance!

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-1-passage-3-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-1-passage-3-questions/

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Hey y'all, I'm quite stuck on Q6 re: why E is better than D.

I chose E and cite my reasons as follows:

line 12-13: "the stated legal rationale ... has nevertheless proven be to be problematic."

line 57-61: "the legal rationale... thus failed to target the genuine problem ... "

to clarify, it was not the judicial decision that was controversial but the rationale given. the rationale given blamed judicial enforcement rather than the covenant's content, the latter of which the author believes is the genuine problem. the author offers up a new rationale: the covenant's racially restrictive content is the genuine problem. that is E.

in regards to D, i felt that it was operative in the author's argument to an extent: only in paragraph 3. if the question had read, "...most clearly operative in practice," i would've chosen E. but the main principle operating in the author's argument is that: in upholding a judicial decision, if the given rationale was controversial, a new one should take its place, which is what the author argued for in paragraphs 2, 4, and parts of 3 (1st two sentences).

Admin note: edited title; please use the format of "PT#.S#.Q#(P#) - [brief description of stimulus]"

Admin note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-85-section-1-passage-1-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-85-section-1-passage-1-questions/

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Hey guys, for some reason, even after BR'ing the questions I wasn't confident, I'm still missing -6 per LR section.

(These six questions are all questions I did blind review.)

To give a context, this is the second LSAT exam I've ever taken in my entire life, and the first time I'm BR'ing a PT.

There's no common patterns in the types questions I'm missing in particular.

This LR section is, in reality, my biggest weakness.

I started off fine on the Logic Games, and after BR'ing RC, it led to a -2.

It's just the LR that's difficult, any advice? Or does it just take practice?

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I’ve been doing some logic games in my head, the level doesn’t really bother me, but in/outs and sequencing are easier to do than grouping, I’ve been doing this out of laziness but also as mental test. Obvi I won’t be doing this on test day and be assured I’m good at splitting/representing rules. And for the most part I get these games perfect, but I’m not really sure how long they take me Bc I don’t time myself, some i finish rather quickly and some take me a while. I think it’s helping my short term memory and making me quicker w forming inferences, what do you guys think about this strategy should I keep going or maybe not?

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Hi,

Asking because there are 2 preptest questions that really confuse me regarding this phrase.

In PT80.S2.Q18, the correct answer is B, and the reason why people say that the answer here is not A is because passage A does not have "particular examples". Passage A discusses hypothetical examples (ie line 11-- "if you analyze a stock, decide it is overvalued..." and line 24--"someone selling a stock because..."). People say that these are not particular examples because they don't refer to a single real-life instance.

However, in PT25.S1.Q3, the correct answer is A, even though one of the two "specific examples" used in the passage is a hypothetical on line 15-- "does a government office, for example, have the right..." (the other "specific example" seems pretty specific-- line 32-- "recently, two employees of an automobile company...")

Unless "specific example" means something different from "particular example", I am really not sure how to resolve the paradox between these 2 questions' answer explanations.

Can anyone please explain this?

Thanks!

Best regards

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