Hey everyone, i'm looking for possible advice on how to improve in LR

I've began 7sage early this year for a month and a half but had to stop due to an intense semester. But I've completed the whole CC for LR in June and I've scored well on the question sets for every question type (not extremely well on the hardest sets tho). However, when I drill LR sections (PTS 36-45) I do not do as well as I've expected to do. Currently I average -14 to -16 per 51 questions. Some problems I experience is 1- I don't understand the stimulus well (even after BR) and 2- I mismanage my time and get stuck on a question for wayyyy too long. Thus, shooting myself in the foot and ruining my chances of getting other questions right as I don't have enough time.

Now I realize that these problems are common and sound easy to overcome as I can skip those questions and focus on the ones that I understand well and can answer easily instead of wasting time. However, I want to improve drastically on this section because it's half the test and it paves a way to a higher score.

My current line of thinking is that I should focus on getting 22 questions correct (hopefully) and I should skip three to four, which would my decrease my wrong answers to 6-8. I know this is easier said than done but I've found BR to be helpful and can see myself achieving that in the following weeks.

Having said that I'd like to hear what y'all have done to improve your score in this section and what you think about my current line of thinking. Any advice would be highly appreciated. Also, if there are helpful discussion forums out there that you found helpful please link it.

Thank you

As the title says, how long did it take you to break the -5~-6 ceiling? And were you studying full time or part time?

my worst section is RC.. I read the power scores and they say read the entire passage and "summarize" as youre reading.. others say skim thru and highlight may terms/dates/names/etc. then look at questions and attack from the questions.. Who is very strong in RC and can give me a solid recommendation? I learn better from peers. Would love a zoom call with someone because Im at a 139 BECAUSE of LR and RC

Hi guys so I review my logic games with the 7 sage videos on Youtube, but something I found I have difficulty with is determining or knowing when to use sub game boards. I have found that sometimes I have made them and they dnt require which confuses me. I try to think that of there is a variable that is limited to 2 or 3 positions to create sub game boards, but this has backfired on me a couple times.I appreciate any help or advice! Thank you

Hi everyone! I hope you are doing well and staying safe.

My reading comprehension skills have significantly worsened after following the strategies outlined by both 7Sage and Powerscore. I find myself to be struggling the most with Main Point/Most Strongly Supported Questions on Reading Comprehension. If you have any suggestions for resources or strategy recommendations, please let me know. I am really struggling, so any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Hi 7sagers,

I had a quick question regarding RC. Something I've noticed when I'm doing RC is that on trickier problems, I almost always am able to eliminate the answers down to two answer choices, and at this point, I know one is the right answer and the other one is a trap answer.

Here is an example of a situation I'm talking about -

on PT51 Passage 4 Q27, I KNEW the answer was between b) and d), and it was just a matter of choosing the answer choice that's supported by the text. (right answer is d), I chose b)).

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-55-section-2-passage-4-questions/

I realized this happens on many questions on RC where I am able to eliminate the answers down to two choices but fall for the trap answer about 80% of the time.

I wanted to ask the 7sage community if you have any tips when you are faced with this situation of having to choose between one right answer and one trap answer! Do you go back to the text to find support? How do you "logic" it out?

I took my LSAT this morning at 10:20. The proctor set up was easy. I didn’t have a trouble with you games but I don’t feel like I truly did my best. It could’ve been from nerves or it could’ve truly been just finding difficulties in the questions. Once I was done with the test though it was a whole different frustration. My proctor Musta got disconnected during the middle of my test and while I was taking the test I never noticed until I got on to the finished page. I could not check out without a proctor for the recording to finish and had to reach out to proctorU. Did anyone have the same issue?

Hi,

So while I did understand why the wrong answer choices were wrong here, I had trouble understanding why E was right. Can anyone explain their reasoning here?

The reason I had trouble understanding why E was right was because I didn't really know what was the difference between "subjective association" and "possession of concept". I thought that a "subjective association" had to be an association that people made based on their "subjective" (aka personal) opinion, but I didn't see any personal opinion in passage A-- I saw people basing their opinion from the connotations in the languages themselves, not from their unique thoughts/experiences.

In addition, "whereas" in answer choice E indicates contrast between "subjective association" and "possession of concept" yet, from my perspective, it seems like people holding a masculine view of a violin and people holding a rough view of numerical values both seem like "possessions of concepts"-- they are both opinions that people hold.

So how is E right?

Any #help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-89-section-3-passage-4-questions/

Calling other non-trads. My youngest child is heading to college, and I am considering law school. I hold a BA in Human Physiology and an MBA and I am currently a COO of a tech and media co.

Let me know if you are interested in creating a non-trad study group.

Hey guys, sorry for asking but does anyone have a spreadsheet or any advice on the group 1, 2 and 3 groups for the necessary and sufficient conditions. I often get confused and as a result I end up doing poorly on parallel questions. Specifically LSAT prep 37 Section 2 Question 26 destroyed my soul. If you guys can give me any tips or a spread sheet or online source that can dumb it down for me id really appreciate it.

Thank you in advance for those that decide to respond :)

#help I have been trying to come up with the best way to approach these RC questions, especially the ones I get wrong. I have reverted back to Phase 1 in the memory method after doing not so well on a few of the RC passages. For the questions you get wrong, how do you go about tackling them? Should I be analyzing the passage on my own then going and watching JY’s analysis to realize what I have missed before I start the question? Should I just power through and then watch his analysis and questions after I do it on my own? I feel like its much harder to correct my way of thinking for RC questions than for the other two sections and not really sure what my “plan of action” should be. Thanks!

I received a 157 on Nov Lsat and a 156 on Jan Lsat.

Should I cancel my jan Lsat grade or keep it?

Hey all, I'm feeling a little bit discouraged, and unsure on whether to take the August LSAT. I hit two 165's about a month ago, and was feeling optimistic that I would be able to make a break through either on test day or before the actual date, but my PT's have since gone down (163, and then 161, 161). If I walked out with a 167 or a 168 on test day I'd be happy.... Is it crazy to register for the August LSAT knowing that I have 6 weeks to improve a few points from my best? BR scores fluctuate from 169 to 178, so I know that somewhere in my brain, I do know the material... I also have a track record of performing better under pressure, so I feel that walking out of the test with a personal best, though unlikely, is not entirely out of the question.

I'm hoping to apply this cycle, and I'm trying to strategically pick between the August, October, and November test dates, knowing that I want to give myself the option of taking the test a few times. LG is my best section, and I'm wondering if the weight of the August test should be a factor in my decision.

Any advice or inspiration or solidarity would be greatly appreciated. I'm feeling very down on myself for poor performance these past few weeks, and I really had my heart set on applying this cycle. Do ya'll recommend just resetting expectations for next year to save myself heartache and disappointment? I just turned 25 and am feeling a little existential about being too old to start law school in another two years, and staying in a toxic job for an extra year before starting school.

I am taking the October Flex and I have a question about the LSAT writing. I took the LSAT last July, when it first became digital and cancelled my score after being able to see it. I have an LSAT writing on record on the lsac website from 7/15/19, which I am able to read. It also gives me an option to "launch lsat writing" for this October test....do I need to do a new lsat writing section or can the one I already have on file be used?

Hi guys are we supposed to be taking all the practice sets at the end of LR or taking one and saving them to come back to. I did the first two and i was going to finish it but then i read discussion posts saying not to do that.

I don't understand why the answer choice is not A?

Hello, I am studying logic games not for taking the exam but for a programming course and so don't need the full course, but would like to view the sequencing games lessons and how to read the diagrams. Are there any free youtube tutorials on this that you recommend? Thanks!

Hello everyone,

I have spent the past 10 days focusing mostly on RC. I am having a great deal of trouble with this section. JY's low-res summary has not helped me one bit. I am having great troubles understanding the passage before moving into the questions. I have started looking into possible tutors to help develop strategies that will help me. I had a call with a company called "Varsity Tutors" today, they gave me a quote of $1200 for 12 hours of 1 on 1 instruction time. The price seems absolutely ludicrous given the amount of supervision.

I'm feeling defeated at this point, and any help would be greatly appreciated

I’ve found my RC scores often depend on how quickly I’m able to complete “easy” passages. Is there a general time you high RC scorers aim for when it comes to the easiest passages? I feel like I should be able to do them in around 5 minutes but typically it takes around 6:30.

Can someone please explain?

I genuinely did not understand the stimulus.

from obsolete version, PT 11 S4 Q23 answer choice C

Is this a correct example of "it makes a generalisation that is inconsistent with the evidence":

This tsunami was caused by an earthquake.

So all the tsunamis are caused by earthquakes

what is your example

I've been going through my prep tests, and I get absolutely destroyed by those final questions. Up to that point I'm usually between -0 to -3. What's a useful strategy?

Hey guys,

The LawHub isn't opening and my test is tomorrow. What do I do?

#help

PT F97.S1.Q18 – Roseville Courthouse

We are asked to identify the point at issue / disagreement between Mayor Tyler and Councillor Simon. Tyler suggested to build a new courthouse for the city of Roseville in 1982 for a price of 26 million dollars, but ‘now’ in 1992 the price of the courthouse is 30 million. Tyler uses these premises to infer that Roseville would have saved 4 million dollars if the courthouse had been built in 1982, as suggested. Tyler also mentions in passing that the existing courthouse has been overcrowded.

Simon responds by bringing in the topic of inflation: The 26 million dollars that the courthouse would have costed in 1982 are equivalent to 37 million in 1992 dollars. Simon takes this to show that Roseville actually saved money by not building the courthouse. Simon also mentions in passing that the courthouse, had it actually been built, would have been underutilized.

There thus are at least two disagreements in this exchange, one much more overt than the other: (1) Roseville was right not to build the courthouse in 1982: Tyler disagrees, Simon agrees. (2) Had the courthouse been built, it would have been put to good use: Tyler agrees, Simon disagrees. The answer choices are tricky in that four of them purport to get at this first disagreement while not actually resolving it. Only one answer choice, the correct one, gets at the second disagreement and actually resolves it:

(A) This gets at Roseville’s actions going forward, does not directly relate to either disagreement.

(B) This gets at the issue of inflation adjusted prices, does not directly relate to either disagreement.

(C) This gets at the extent of Tyler’s responsibility, does not directly relate to either disagreement.

(D) This does get at the second disagreement and points out one issue where Tyler and Simon disagree: Would a new courthouse actually have been needed / been put to good use? Tyler agrees, as Tyler proclaims the present courthouse overcrowded, i.e. insufficient to serve Roseville’s existing population spatially. Simon disagrees; states that a hypothetical larger courthouse would have remained underutilized. The disagreement is subtle, but definitely present.

(E) This confuses the issue of inflation adjustment with financial upkeep, purports to get at the first disagreement but actually misrepresents information from the passage, in an apparent attempt to confuse test takers who did not select one of the previous answers the first time around.

Takeaway: This is a tricky question in that there are two disagreements only one of which gets resolved. The question stem arguably hints at this by speaking of ‘A point of disagreement,’ rather than of ‘The point of disagreement;’ i.e. the question stem leaves open the possibility of multiple disagreements. Nevertheless, this question demands some reflection. Read stimulus and answer choices more than once to get at the nuance of the issues at play. Do process of elimination for the wrong answer choices. If necessary, flag the question the first time around and return to it at the end of the section.