Does anyone have the same feeling?

I bombed every single LR section after PT70.

I find that LR questions after 70 allows more room for making subtle assumptions and hence the answer choices are not as clear as before. This is probably the reason why I got trapped more often.

I took the August test and scored much lower than anticipated. I am applying to T20 schools. Should I cancel the score? I've been scoring 168-170 on practice tests for the past 4 months but scored in the low 160s. I'm taking the October test.

Hi everyone!

I'm having a hard time with parallel method of reasoning questions. I know that I have to find the method in the stimulus and find the answer choice that uses the same method. Any tips?

Thanks in advance,

Amy

Okay, so I'm currently running through SA's and PSA's and ran into this and actually gave it some time to sit with me (after looking it up on the actual explanation video, powerscore forums, manhattan prep forums) and I've come to rationalizing D as such:

"So what the general idea is:

Adopt tax package > Discontinue daily story time > Inconvenience parents.

or

Adopt package > Inconvenience parents.

For some reason this exists, which is what makes [D] right:

Adopt package > [Inconvenience Parents > DONT adopt package]

Technically, could be true. The truth is that WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF SUFFICIENT IS TRIGGERED (If " Inconvenience parents " is triggered, and we move the diagram forward). This could mean that we can NOT adopt (/Adopt)"

Is this the correct way of thinking about this?

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-23-section-3-question-14/

This is from PT 46 LR 24.

For this statement "Anything that exists would continue to exist even if everyone were to stop believing in it", I know that to write it in a conditional, it would be:

If exists --> continue to exist even if everyone were to stop believing in it.

My question is on contraposing this conditional. My question is what to do with the "even if" in the negated form. Would this be the correct way to read the contrapositive of the above conditional?

If it does not continue to exist even if everyone were to stop believing in it --> does not exist, or could you also say,

If it does not continue to exist after everyone were to stop believing in it --> does not exist?

I know at this point this is a very cosmetic difference, but something about "even if" makes it sound like you're limiting certain possibilities, whereas "after" makes it more open-ended. I would love to hear some thoughts on this!

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Hey 7sage hive mind! I just finished the Strengthening Section of the CC and I struggled more than I have with any of the other question types thus far. For a lot of people it seems like after going through weakening, strengthening feels easy. I'm having the opposite issue... my entire weakening section went really well, but once I got into middle difficulty level, to harder questions on strengthening I feel like my accuracy plummeted. I'm hesitant to move on in the CC until I really understand this question type. Does any one have any thoughts as to why someone could excel with weakening but struggle with strengthening? I even tried negating answer choices to try and weaken the argument but I feel like it doesn't work for every question.

Thanks in advance!

How do I become better at identifying referential phrasing? I feel like I'm very slow and inaccurate at identifying them and being able to point them out. I would appreciate any advice or help given!

When? and how often do i start taking prep tests for 7sage.

Does anyone have any particularly open ended games with a lot of rules to recommend for practice? I find myself getting a bit intimidated when there isn't that much that one can map out up front, so more practice with these would be helpful.

I am having trouble deciphering between answer choices especially determining if an answer choice is too strong or too weak, Any suggestions on how I can improve?

I am coming up on my October LSAT, and my RC scores have started to slip. I'm not quite sure how to tackle this! I think the PTs in the 70s and 80s are turning up the heat a bit with the questions, but I'm wondering if anyone has any tips for reviewing my tests, remembering details, etc...I am watching the question explanations for the questions I'm missing, but it doesn't seem to be making a difference.

I so, so, so appreciate any advice that you can offer!!!

Does anyone know how likely you are to get a Misc Game on the test? I'm worried if I get one it will mess up my whole section. How can you practice for Misc Games?

I am taking the October Flex and I have a question about the LSAT writing. I took the LSAT last July, when it first became digital and cancelled my score after being able to see it. I have an LSAT writing on record on the lsac website from 7/15/19, which I am able to read. It also gives me an option to "launch lsat writing" for this October test....do I need to do a new lsat writing section or can the one I already have on file be used?

Hi all,

For LR, does anyone have any tips on how to flag questions to go back to during time? I usually finish my first sweep of the questions w/ 10 to 12 minutes on the clock, flagging questions along the way. However, when I finish BR, there's always a few questions that I got wrong and didn't go back to (either in time or in BR). It seems like a case of not knowing what I don't know. I also worry that I'm wasting time on some of the questions that I flag but ultimately got right on my first pass through.

Sorry this is long and I haven't proof it yet for errors, but if you would like to read my email to LSAC regarding my terrible experience today with the October Flex, here it is. As prospective law students, we deserve SO much better than this.

To whom it may concern,

I took the October LSAT flex today. After months of studying and putting in my best effort, I was positive coming into it. I got set up my dad’s office since it has the fastest internet in my house, I checked that my connection was good (about 300 megabits per second) and logged into ProctorU. Come 9:10, when my exam was set to start, I clicked ‘begin’ and the process of checking my video and microphone connection happened almost immediately, but I was told my lighting did not pass the test. I turned my light on brighter in the room and pressed ‘retry’ to recheck the lighting. This time, it wouldn’t seem to load. I waited 20 minutes, attempted to speak to multiple technicians, but nobody was responding or could help me. I was afraid of exiting out of the window in case I wouldn’t be let back in. After 30 minutes, I took the risk of closing the window and reopened, logged back into ProctorU and after only a minute, I was set up and ready to receive my proctor. I felt a wave of relief when my proctor said I wasn’t too late for the test.

My proctor was very helpful with getting me ready for the test, checking my surrounding, etc. I started the test with the Logic Games section. About 5 minutes into the section my test was interrupted by a screen saying I was disconnected from the proctor, and my test was also stopped. I opened the chat box with my proctor and told them it had disconnected. They helped me get back into the section but before they could, they had me go into the system preferences of my computer and do a lot of troubleshooting, then eventually I had to reboot my computer. This was not by choice, but what my proctor, who had control of my screen, was requesting of me. With nothing else to do, I obliged. My computer screen went black for about 15 seconds then came back on. I was terrified. The proctor then told me I could begin my test again and that my test was paused at the initial disconnect, meaning I wouldn’t lose any time in the test. But as I started the test again, I am almost positive I lost time in the section. At least a few minutes had passed that I did not get back in that games section. I finished the section, regardless, putting in my absolute best effort and trying not to think about what had just occurred.

I began my Logic Reasoning section next. 20 minutes in, I coincidentally check my time and see that I have 15 minutes left. A few seconds later, the same disconnect that happened in the Logic Games section occurs. This time, I tell my proctor I have disconnected yet again and they lead me back into the exam. This was only a detour of about a minute and I did not lose any time in the section but was sufficiently paused at the time of my disconnect. As I am working through the section, suddenly I see a notification bouncing at the bottom of my screen from my proctor, and I think, “why is my proctor messaging me while I am trying to focus on my test?” Of course, I don’t react or respond to the notification and continue, although I am very distracted by the bouncing icon. A little while later a new tab suddenly opens on my browser and disrupts my test. It is not your average pop up, but a ProctorU support page requesting that I submit a survey regarding my technical assistance. Mind you, this was during my Logical Reasoning section with about 10 minutes left while completing the most difficult questions in the section. Stunned and disappointed, I immediately close the window. Again, I see a notification at the bottom of my screen from my proctor. I ignore it and haphazardly finish the section, however the interruptions undoubtably affected my performance negatively.

As soon as the time is called for the Logical Reasoning section, I have 60 seconds before the Reading Comprehension section begins and I check to see what my proctor had said. There was a second chat box opened (I assume it was because I had to re download the zip file that allowed the screen sharing by the proctor) and in the text box it said something along the lines of, “you have left the testing screen” presumably talking about when the tech support survey screen appeared 10 minutes before. To be honest, I don’t remember exactly what the chat box told me, but I was worried my test had been flagged for something completely out of my control. This carried into my performance on the Reading Comprehension section. I remember the chat saying I had been disconnected from my proctor, but the first chat box with my initial proctor was still open. So I messaged them defending myself and saying, “I did not leave the screen, a new tab opened during the test from ProctorU and I closed it within seconds”. I now had 15 seconds left until my Reading Comprehension section began. Petrified that my months of hard work had been for nothing, I finished the third section without any disconnects, and my test was complete.

This experience has left me feeling rather defeated. I went into this test with a great mindset and countless hours of studying under my belt. I find these technical issues to be extremely unfair and unprofessional. The internet speed in my house is impeccable and has never been an issue before, so I am left searching for a reason why my test would disconnect multiple times. Luckily I do not suffer from a diagnosed anxiety disorder, because this would certainly be something to trigger a panic attack during the test. That being said, it it can be reasonable expected for any normal person to be affected negatively by the stress of this type of circumstance. Thankfully, I was able to stay composed and complete my sections, but I did so with fear in the back of my mind rather than the 100% concentrated focus I expect when taking such an important test.

This was one of the most pertinent days of my life and to go through this nightmare is beyond disheartening. I had read about technical difficulties similar to mine since the first flex test in August on the 7sage forum, and I prayed nightly that I would be luckier. Unfortunately, this format of the LSAT does not only favor those with intellect, but those who are lucky enough to not experience a technical difficulty. Where is the justice for those of us who have lost time on our sections, for those of us who have planned out an entire year based on taking a specific LSAT date and have etched out the perfect amount of time to complete applications but are now impeded by uneasiness and worry as we may have to take the exam in January and apply later than the rest of the pool, or even worse, wait another year to apply to law school? As future law students, we deserve a lot better than this system of consistent failure. I sit here, still, in utter shock and I wonder if I will be able to attend a satisfactory law school next fall.

As a reparation for my suffering today I request a full refund that I may use to take a later test, and a confirmation that my test has not be flagged.

I look forward to speaking further about this situation. Until then, have a great day.

-Lucia Izzolo

Admin Note: Related thread is located here: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/25548/october-lsat-flex-issues

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Good Afternoon,

As I am starting my Reading Comprehension Curriculum, I would like to see if you guys have any tips or have any advice ASIDE from what JY explains at the beginning of the section. Feel like it could be super beneficial to hear from someone who has made it through this section and explain what worked best for them.

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Hey all,

Like many, I've doing a number of PTs and find that parallel flaw questions are my weakest point in LR.

I was wondering if anyone had advice about when to use mapping on parallel flaw questions vs. when to intuit the flaw and answer choice match?

For example, I've just completed PT 53, and JY uses a conditional map for Question 21 Section 1. I realized after watching JY's explanation that trying to reason through or intuit this flaw would have been rather futile.

However, on the same PT—Question 13 Section 3, JY reasons through the flaw in his explanation. His explanation was great (it was a part relating to whole flaw) but I'm not confident in my ability to know when to use reason and when to use maps.

If anyone who is proficient at Parallel Flaw questions could share language cues or other details they use to know when maps are optimal and when they should reason through the question, I would really, really appreciate them!

Thanks so much, *also my first 7Sage post.

Okay, Im having so much trouble trying to fund out what goes into the sufficient or the necessary conditions. Specifically in group 3 and 4. I feel like I get it wrong every time. Can anyone direct me to a specific lesson in the syllabus or explain to me how to better distinguish what goes in the sufficient or the necessary.

If anyone needs help on LR let me know!

I like to write in the margins for RC passages and I'm struggling with how to fully grasp a passage on the online flex test. How have people been using the 3 highlighters and/or writing notes?

Thank you

Hi all,

I’m looking for a study buddy who’s really solid with RC — I used to average max -3 on RC with older tests but am now doing worse than before — now I sometimes get -7. I am currently averaging anywhere from 168-173. If anyone would benefit from explaining how they arrive at certain answers/compare PTs — DM me! Would love to meet via Zoom couple of times throughout the week until the Nov flex.

Can someone explain why the answer choice is A not C?