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Hey guys,

Sorry if this seems a bit naive but I'm hoping there's a bit of 'secret sauce' to help me get over this plateau I've hit.

I'm taking the January LSAT and have been batting around -4 to -6 on the logic games (diagnostic was -14 score 155) and I'm looking to make the final push to try and consistently keep it to -0. When I do sections untimed I'm able to get 100% without breaking too much of a sweat but I'm over time more often than not. I haven't left questions unanswered but I have noticed that roughly 50% of the time I do have a time crunch when answering the final two questions.

For the games themselves I do get a useful and inference rich diagram complete but I do notice that sometimes I get tripped up on rules and that adds a bit of time to completing the diagram (usually no more than 3 minutes).

I've moved over here from Khan Academy. I'm gunning for 170+ but the last 5 practice tests I've taken have averaged around 164 with my lowest at 162 and highest currently sitting at 167. My LR scores have quite a bit of variance from -2 to -7 and my RC scores fluctuate from -5 to -3.

I'm drilling the specific question types I'm getting wrong on LR hoping to get the last bits to 'click' and hopefully keep that to -3 consistently. What's left is logic games which from my understanding have the highest ROI for the effort invested.

Any advice/feedback is appreciated!

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Last comment wednesday, jan 11 2023

My RC strategy that got me to -0

Hi everyone,

I'd like to share a RC strategy that's been working for me.

PLEASE DO NOT SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH OTHER SITES/ COMMUNITIES.

I'm just trying to give back to this community that has given me much.

Quick note about me:

When I first began the LSAT prep, I didn't think that I needed to focus on RC much, due to my arrogance.I majored in Political Science (Political Theory) and got a master's degree in humanities. I'm very used to critically reading and analyzing dense, complex materials. I also happened to get a perfect score on GRE verbal. I didn't have much trouble with the GRE RC passages, so I thought that my experience would be the same for the LSAT passages.

I was wrong.

When I first timed myself, I realized that I go over 10 min easily per passage, with 1+ wrong. I'd be missing on average 5 questions wrong per section, way over the allotted time. Since then, I have been studying and researching various RC strategies to help me, such as Nicole's webinar, Corey's active reading webinar and @"Cant Get Right" 's, (they were also super duper helpful. I really highly recommend watching them), some discussion postings from here (the posting from @theforms is also very helpful) , some from TSL, Mike Kim's trainer, etc.

After synthesizing my own strategy and using it, I am now consistently 2~3 min under with 0-2 wrong per section.

Here's my synthesized strategy from the various resources above.

Success to RC = a seamless integration of 1. active reading + 2.reading for structure.

My strategy is on how to INTEGRATE the two. I'm not going to go into details on explaining what is each, because there are many resources out there already.

Before I go over my strategy, I will still briefly mention what active reading and reading for structure are.

What is an active reading? It is engaging with the reading as if one is having a dialogue. Think of it as active listening; it is about being totally present, but mindfully detached. We all know some of the crucial techniques to actively read well. Below are the especially effective techniques for me.

  • Reference phrasing- cannot emphasize this enough. If you don't know what this is, go to CC and watch the part on it
  • Visualizing- I find this technique priceless. Basically, try to visualize the abstract material you are reading, if you have a hard time processing. Treat the difficult sentence as a scene in the movie and try to picture it in your mind. This helps with retention and understanding.
  • What question is a sentence responding to? This is another technique that I find extremely useful in capturing the essence of each sentence.
  • Here's an example sentence. "LSAT passages are like paper tigers: they appear to be formidable at first, but get easier over time."

    When you encounter the sentence, think about what question would prompt the above sentence as an answer. My question would be, "how difficult are the LSAT passages?" Here, it helps you to articulate the essence of the sentence: It is about the difficulty of the LSAT passages.

    Reading for structure

  • Basically reading for relationships.
  • How do the concepts/ themes interact with one another?
  • How do the sentences interact with another? what are their relationships?
  • How do the paragraphs interact with one another?
  • Like I said, I won't get into the details of reading for structure.

    Now here's the crucial integration piece I'd like to share with you- how active reading and reading for structure integrate and feed off from one another.

    The key is to

    Step 1. find the central theme (the key subject matter that forms a basis for an argument, hypothesis, claim, finding, problem) in the opening paragraph and treat each sentence as revealing the aspects of that central theme. Compile the aspects of the central theme as you are reading, and add them on to the central theme. This is pretty abstruse, so I will use an example (PT 32 Passage 4 opening paragraph) to explain.

    sentence 1: something about wine. - (hold this in thought as you are reading. Something about wine is the central theme)

    sentence 2: wine - distinct. (Here's an aspect of the central theme, wine: it is distinct. try to utilize the active reading techniques mentioned above. What question would the sentence be answering?

    sentence 3: wine- distinct b/c of health benefits (there's another aspect. It is distinct. Why? Because it has health benefits)

    sentence 4: wine- distinct health benefits- obscured by the scientists.

    Do you see what I am doing? I am simply adding on and connecting the previous information to the new information. Going from simply "wine," the central theme as revealed by sentence 1, I now have a more clear picture about this central theme and its aspects by sentence 4.

    The paragraph ends here. What do I have now in sentence 4, the last sentence?

    The scientists (who? go back to sentence 1) have obscured the healthful benefits of wine that other alcoholic beverages do not have.

    Step 2. Find the structure.

    What does this compilation of the central theme + its aspects signify? What does it mean? Why did the author write this?

    Simply try to articulate using this mantra, "the author is trying to..." with the compilation that you have at the end of the paragraph.

    The author is trying to... 1. suggest that wine has a health benefit that other alcoholic beverages do not have (this is the author's position) 2. counter "the scientists."

    So think of having 2 mental columns as you are reading.

    The left column: find a central theme--> find the essential aspects of this theme in each subsequent sentence and add on to the central theme found. (like what I did above. wine-> wine is distinct -> wine is distinct in x way -> wine is distinct for x way but that distinction has been obscured by Y)

    The right column: after each paragraph, think about the final compilation in the left column and simply ask, "why did the author write this?" Why did the author write that "wine is distinct for x way but t hat distinction has been obscured by Y?" The answer to this question = the purpose of each paragraph.

    Repeat this for each paragraph.

    Using this strategy, I read the passage in about 4:15 min and answered the questions in 4 min. Total: 8:15 and 30 seconds under the allotted time / passage.

    Anyone have any tricky LR problems involving conditional logic that they've encountered and could share? Either individual problems or a list, if you by some incredible stroke of good fortune, you should have one, would be great.

    Also, if anyone is interested in syncing up to work on some tougher conditional logic problems please reach out.

    Hi! I really struggled with timing on LSAT prep test 93 Logic Game Three because of the amount of conditional statements and not knowing where to even start with inferences beyond contrapositives. Any suggestions with where to find resources on the best way to set up game three / similar games? There is not a video explanation up on 7Sage yet. Thanks!

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    Last comment tuesday, jan 10 2023

    A or C

    I ended up changing my answer from C to A during blind review, but cannot figure out why C is wrong.

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    When I do a game in a PT or a drill, I do it timed first, then again during BR, and if after BR I still am not at a -0, I take a few hours or a day and repeat the entire game untimed. If I can figure it out on my own (using my own inferences and my own gameboards), then I'll just go foolproof the game using my own strategies, rather than watching JY's explanation video. Am I wrong to be doing that? I'm wondering if this is preventing me from getting to a -0 as quickly. I have improved on my own though (averaging at about a -6), but I was just wondering if I'd be improving more and faster if I were to just always follow every single step that JY takes in his explanation videos?

    Hi everyone,

    I'm having a hard time understanding why answer choice E is wrong and why answer choice B is correct can someone please explain

    Thank you in advance!

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    Can someone please explain to me what the difference is between AC C and D? I'm probably not mapping it out correctly, but C and D seem to have the same pattern of reasoning as the question stem. I chose D the first time but C when I did blind review and that makes me nervous.

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    Last comment wednesday, jan 04 2023

    Other resources for Logic Games

    I have been enjoying 7Sage right up until the LG section. I cannot learn these games this way. Can anyone recommend another resource that teaches the games in a different style? Not disloyal to 7Sage in any way, but this is making me a total head case and affecting my performance on all the sections. Before starting LG I was scoring -1 or -2 on LR and -3 or -4 on RC and now my scores are tanking across the board. #help

    Hello,

    I figured I should write this to get a feel for what I'm doing wrong. I have been taking practice sections for LR, and have been stuck in the -8 to -11 range. Terrible, I know. I have been blind reviewing and I will maybe see the light on some of them, but others I stick with the answer I chose. I feel like I can't make certain connections with the arguments I'm seeing and I'm not entirely sure how to fix it.

    After the explanation videos I have a clearer understanding of the argument and why the correct answer is correct, but I do another practice section and the same thing happens. I have been missing the questions that are at the 158 curve and above.

    Is there something different I can be doing?

    Thanks for any advice.

    Hi everyone!

    I'm hoping to get some advice on when you can book your writing sample for the January 2023 exam date. On my lsac account it says that the Launch LSAT Writing link will appear on my account 8 days prior to my testing date. Therefore, 8 days prior to my actual lsat test, will I then register for a ProctorU day and time for my writing sample?

    Any advice or experience would be appreciated as this is my first time completing the writing sample so I'd love some clarification.

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