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Last comment tuesday, aug 30 2022

New LG Style

I read an article this morning explaining that the LG section of the LSAT is likely to change pretty drastically starting in 2022. Do we know how that will factor into scoring or if LSAC plans to release any information regarding the new style of LG section prior to a complete shift in style?

I'm planning on taking the test in February and don't feel prepared to push that date up but I also don't want to be shooting myself in the foot by studying for a style of LG that will be outdated by the time I take the test.

Hello everyone. I was hoping someone could help me improve LR which is my weakest section. I just recently finished a PT and got -0 in LG, -7 in RC, but -20+ combined from the 2 sections of LR. After reviewing the questions, I noticed most of the LR questions I’m getting wrong are only 4-5 star difficulty questions. The type of questions I got wrong are all over the place so the issue doesn’t seem to be exactly the type of question but rather the difficulty level that’s tripping me up. Should I create drills to only do 4-5 star difficulty questions or is there a different way to approach this? Should I be doing drills timed or untimed until I can consistently get the answers right? I’m really not sure where to go from here or how to take on these questions which are easily the biggest factor in my scores right now.

I am confused about the logic translations seen in the video explanation for a particular LR question:

LSAT PrepTest 49, Section 4, Question 16

Link: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-49-section-4-question-16/

There are two statements in this question where I don’t agree with the video explanation’s interpretation.

“Since the most realistic pieces are the most truthful”

The video explanation translates this statement as Most Real = Most Truthful. Why are the two concepts equivalent instead of existing in a conditional relationship? When I did this question, I diagrammed the relationship as Most Real → Most Truthful. We CANNOT say that “the most truthful pieces are the most realistic” given the above statement, correct?

“The most realistic pieces of art would be the best”

Again, the explanation diagrams this statement as Most Real = Best. It is my impression that from this statement, we CANNOT say “The best art is the most realistic.” Why is the equal sign used in the diagram, instead of a conditional arrow?

If someone can let me know why = signs are used rather than conditional arrows, I’d greatly appreciate the help.

My scores on my practice tests seem to rely quite a bit on the actual content of the sections. For example, I usually get between -3-4 on RC UNLESS there's a science passage. Then I score -11. Today I took a practice test. No science passage in RC, but there was on particularly difficult passage about free will. I got -11.

My test is in two weeks and I can't think of or find more strategies for RC and LR that can help me stabilize my score. I've been studying for 9 months and I don't know what to do at this point. :(

I see a lot of groups form here with lots of people and undoubtedly a lot of noise. Personally, I wouldn't gain from entering a sea of people making noise on a discord group.

I'd like to form a small group of people ((10) that can support each other to develop our skills and study efficiently. I want to keep the bar high for the group, so you should have scored a 155+ on your diagnostic to qualify, or are PT-ing at 165+. Does anyone want to participate?(/p)

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For the tags in the logic games section on the drilling page, there's one for 'grouping with sequencing' and one for 'sequencing with grouping'. Does anyone know the difference between the two?

If there is a difference, then should I do SeqGrp games whilst I'm target drilling GrpSeq/InoSeq games as well?

Thanks!

Hey all was reviewing some MC conclusion questions and stumbled upon 2 structurally similar stimuli in exam PT 85 S2 10 and PT 73 S4 11. At a glance they are near identical with a claim endorsed by the author, followed by an opponent view which is then rebutted by the author. I find it hard to distinguish how the MC in 73 would be the rebbutle versus how 85 would say the MC is the original claim up top.

I feel like the answer and difference to this question has to do with how in 85 all premises and such would link back to the first sentence as the main conclusion whereas in 73, the first sentence is unsupported as nothing suggests that the company will develop weaknesses. However, it's kind of challenging to internalize that difference, everyway I view one of them I could easily apply to the other. Wonder what the rest of you guys think.

So here is the sentence:

All men and women are merely players.

I know it should translate as: men and women➡️ merely players.

And the contrapositive should be: /MP ➡️/men or /women.

But why it shouldn't be translated separately? In this sentence, "men and women" is not some kind of combination, I think they are separate conditions. You don't need to be men and women at the same time to be merely players. Just being men or women can activate the sufficient condition. I mean the "and"here, is actually an exclusive OR.

So I think it should diagram as: men or women ➡️ merely players.

And the contrapositive should be: /MP ➡️/men and /women.

If you find me made any silly mistake, please point it out. I am really confused right now. Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone! I have been reading quite a few posts about difficulties with proctors. I was wondering if anyone had any advice to make sure things go smoothly on test day. I know every second of this test counts, and I would hate to lose precious time because of a miscommunication with a proctor. Thanks in advance!

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Last comment tuesday, aug 23 2022

Improving LR

So, I'm having a hard time with LR averaging -5 through -10 every section even after BR. My main problem is that the question types that I'm getting wrong seem to be scattered all over the place. It's not just like weakening and assumptions, for example, but rather a little bit of everything that I'm getting wrong. So now I'm not sure how to proceed. Should I just continue drilling LR sections for practice or should I take a step back and continue learning about the fundamentals of all LR questions before more drills? (Currently reading The Loophole in LR & PowerScore LR Bible but not finished with either).

Hello...I am wanting to start PTs and am nearing the end of the LG curriculum. Toward the end, I am struggling with the games. I have made a pile of the games I am really lost on. Before I start PTs, should I BRUTE FORCE understanding on all of the games in my pile? Or start PTs and brute force one game a day while PTing? I haven't taken a diagnostic and have been studying since March/April. #help

Hi! I’m having a bit of trouble approaching my method of review w this section of the LSAT. I’ve been going through the curriculum and doing all the practice sets each section provides. I cant help but think that the best way to approach testing myself it to do drills repeatedly with with specific question types but I remember the advice they gave us saying that we should not exhaust all our study resources too quickly AND to not do one question type over and over again… does anyone have any advice on how to approach improving each question type?

I've gotten good at getting -0 or -1 in LG unless I run into one of the really old misc games. Does anyone think it is worth my time to review them? Every time I go to watch an explanation video, J.Y. says something along the lines of "I don't think you'll see this on a modern LSAT," which is really discouraging me from putting in more work to get them down. Thoughts? Is anyone else running into this issue?

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Last comment monday, aug 22 2022

Time Sinkers

Hello.....I've noticed that sometimes questions can purposefully be time sinkers. Does anyone have any tips on how to identify time sinkers that we should skip and come back to? Thank you #help

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Last comment sunday, aug 21 2022

Discussion about June'22 LG

Hello 7Sage community,

I'm in the process of gearing up for Oct. LSAT and I wanted to bring to your attention June '22 LSAT LG specifically.

I'll get straight to the point: Did anyone find the LG section unusually hard?

I mean I went through the games in pt.1-92 three times before taking the test but I still answered barely 5 questions in total probably. There could be many reasons why I did so poorly on the section but one thing for sure that I felt while attempting the games was that on 3/4 games, I didn't know how to set up the game- They seemed

nothing like the ones I had tried except for the circular game which I ran out of time on.

If anyone did well on June LG can you share your tips?

It'll be much appreciated! Please help 🙏

I am currently in the midst of a cold streak with logical reasoning. I understand the steps 7Sage has prescribed and attempt to review them, but every practice set and blind review leaves me feeling frustrated and with no progress whatsoever.

I was wondering if any of you have found a method to take a step back from Logical Reasoning and reevaluating your methods and have seen improvement. No amount of blind review or practice questions seems to be yielding a positive gain in my abilities. Thanks!

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