I took the June 2023 LSAT and din't do anywhere near what I want to end up with. I plan to retake this fall in either September, October, or November depending where I am PTing during this time. I bought the live classes package and have been working through the entire study schedule. I'm finding that I'm spending wayyyyyy too much time doing the Logical Reasoning lessons. I'm only on Week 3 but I'm already behind by a week and a half. Since I have already studied for a few months prior to the June LSAT, I know a good amount of information already regarding LR and LG, however, i significantly what to improve my LR. What is the best method to do so without having to spend 40 + hours a week reviewing the core curriculum? I'm getting confusing about the drilling tools an how and when I should be using them. I don't know what the most effective method is. I've heard great things about 7Sage and improving LSAT scores but I just feel stuck because I'm not sure how to work many things on this website HELP.

Extraterrestrial does not necessarily mean that they are coming from other planets, but rather that they are coming from outside Earth's atmosphere. I am confused how this is the correct answer.

Howdy everyone,

I am a June 2023 LSATer and got a 170 (yay!) but I want to go to a T-14 (Duke is my dream school). I’m a little disappointed since my average was a 173 (175,173,170,170,173,173,172), do you think it would be wise to retake? I am already registered for the August test, but I am trying to figure out whether I should get my refund. Until then, I am only able to dedicate weekends and the two weeks before I would take it to intense studying, so I am a little concerned with retaking it and getting the same score. Kind of in a middle ground, so any advice would be appreciated!

My GPA is a 3.83 since I graduated in three years and spent 2 of those years as STEM, and I am a non-URM wanting to go into public-interest.

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Across my last 15 PTs (50s - 80s) I consistently scored -1 to 0 on LG. I consider it by far my best section and can always rely on it to carry my score. However, on both the April and June LSATs, the last game completely destroyed me. I found myself guessing on 3+ problems, which I never do in any of my practice tests. It was not a time issue either; I had plenty of time during both tests yet could barely get past the game board setup stage since the questions felt so different from the PTs.

After the April test I practiced a ton of different games at all difficulties and had really high confidence going into June's test, only to be destroyed by the last game again. How can I prepare for LG for the August LSAT? I feel like I've done a billion games on 7Sage and consistently get -1 to 0 on all of them, yet when I get to the real thing it feels completely foreign.

Which LGs are similar to the April/June 5 star games?

Im sure there are a lot of post about canceling scores but i just wanted to get some opinions on my specific situation.

I got a 145 on my lsat, which is pretty low for me. I was getting 153 and higher on my PT’s. My dream school is regent university. Which has a median of 155, i truly believe i can get my score up in September but didn't know if i should cancel please let me know y’alls thoughts. Thank you in advance

For those of you who consistently score -0 in LG, what got you there? Was it foolproofing PT1-35? Foolproofing everything...? I sometimes get -0 but sometimes get as much as -3 in a timed section, and often times it's due to silly mistakes. I've been studying for a long time now and foolproofed a lot of games, but haven't gone through every single game from PT1-35 and foolproofed it to completion and am wondering if that's what's holding me back. Looking for advice on how to get to -0 consistently!

Any tips for someone who consistently has RC as their worst, avg 8 questions wrong?

Hello everyone! Can someone explain to me why B is the correct answer? I chose E but I am having a hard time understanding the big difference between these two answer choices. Thanks!

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Hey! Can someone explain to me why E is the correct answer? I chose B but I am having a hard time understanding the big difference between these two answer choices. Thanks!

I was registering for the August 2023 LSAT earlier and couldn't help but notice that the LSAC website lists a platform called "Prometric" instead of ProctorU for scheduling now. Did LSAC send out an official notice about this change already (that I somehow overlooked)? Not going to lie, this makes me a little anxious, hahaha. Here's to hoping this is a positive change and that August remote test takers don't suffer too much 😭

-so if you fail a sufficient condition, the rule "goes away" ?

-but if you satisfy a necessary condition, the rule also "goes away" ?

-you would not want to rely on a contrapositive of any of these rules in these two situations above?

Hi, just wondering if anyone has any tips for RC (aside from getting reps in) that really improved their score and confidence in each answer?

Also, I'm not finding blind review to be as useful for RC as it is with LR and LG, any suggestions/tweaks to the review process for RC? I understand it may just be the nature of the section compared to the other two.

Hi, looking for tips on MC questions. The source of my dilemma I think is that for the RC MC questions, the answer tends to encompass the passage as a whole instead of a short/explicit answer of the conclusion. Consequently, during LR MC/MP questions, sometime I fall victim to AC's that contain a qualifier of the conclusion/more encompassing. Does anyone do the same and any tips on how to fix this?

My analytics indicate my accuracy is about 11% lower on LR MC questions relative to my score, and so improvements to this question type will really help me!

I have quit again, the main point makes no sense, as do assumptions

Hello,

I had a question regarding the best approach to RC passages that have two different subpassages for one set of questions. In the practice test explanation videos, JY approaches these by reading passage A and then going through the questions, then reading passage B and doing this the same, but there is no video in the core curriculum about these types of passages. Do you guys find the strategy of reading one and doing the questions then reading the other and repeating the questions to be fast enough, or do you usually just read them both at once then go to the questions? Thanks.

This is maybe the single stupidest question I have ever seen since I started studying for the LSAT. I spent like 3 minutes on it, but I did get it correct, fortunately. To share some advice, I always like to remember that I heard somewhere that top scorers get two chances to get the question right; the first time by actually identifying the correct answer and the second by understanding why the other four answers are incorrect. I don't think any question better encapsulates this idea than this one. A and B deal with clams, and not a single time in the stimulus are clams mentioned so I eliminated those. We aren't given any information about the clearing of intake pipes, so I also eliminated C. For D, we aren't told anything about the algae besides the fact that the mussels eat them, so I didn't feel it was very supported and so I eliminated it. For E, while I didn't think it was totally, 100% supported by the stimulus, it was the only answer that dealt with something explicitly engaged with in the stimulus, the removal of hazardous waste. While I don't understand how we can make the assumption that the waste remains in the mussels, and they can then be classified as hazardous waste, I thought it related more closely to the stimulus than any other answer choice. Overall, to be a top scorer, unfortunately, it is not enough to simply know the correct answer, you must be able to identify incorrect answers as well. More importantly, it is also very important to understand that LSAT writers are the biggest dickheads on the planet, and we cannot let them win.

Hello,

I brushed it off the first few times, but I've now noticed JY using an odd symbol for "at least" a number of times now. Can anyone explain? Is it simply a messy version of an inequality symbol (e.g., ≤), or something different?

I can't seem to attach a screenshot, but he draws the symbol at 2:04 of this game explanation: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-42-section-1-game-4/

Thanks,

David

PrepTest B - Section 4 - Question 06

I picked "E" but the correct answer is "C" but I don't understand why can someone help me?

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Hi Guys!

There hasn't been much updates on the modifications/removal of the logic games section recently. Does anyone know the status of it being altered? It was supposed to happen throughout 2023. Has 7sage been accounting for these changes if so?

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Hi, I watched the explanation for this question but I still don't understand why D is the correct answer over E -- so if anyone really understands this question may you please explain it to me in a simple way.

Thank you!

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For this question, I initially chose answer choice E because the background information really swept me up. My intuition told me that because the passage wrote about all of these other linguistic influences, the answer choice probably had something to do with that. However, upon BR, I ended up going with the correct answer choice A because the first sentence in the passage notes that the nature of English literature reflects... the English language. Thus it follows that the "origin of English," referring to the language, played a role in shaping English literature.

Hi,

I keep getting stumped with the difference between trivial and non-trivial inferences. I keep going back to the videos and the quizzes, but I can never tell the difference.

How do you guys think about the difference between them?

Hello!

I'm having some trouble with Flaw questions, and am wondering if anyone has any advice/resource recommendations?

I'm pretty well versed with the many different kinds of logical fallacies. However, I'm weary of how the test makers describe the flaw in the reasoning. E.g. If the author commits a "straw man," I'm unsure how LSAC words/describes that mischaracterization in an AC. Of course, I know our language is complex, and that there are hundreds of different ways to say the same thing (so, how something is worded in one AC, can be worded a different way in another question's AC and mean the same thing)! I see AC's that say "the author takes for granted," "the author fails to consider," etc. and am wondering if anyone knows how to decipher what these different AC's even mean. If the "author takes for granted _____," I'm assuming that LSAC means the flaw is in what the author/argument said/did. If, on the other hand, "the author fails to consider _____," I'm assuming the flaw is something the author/argument didn't say/do.

Has anyone compiled a document with LSAC's different answer choices that best describe different flaws in the reasoning? I've found that sometimes with the explanation videos to flaw questions, the wrong AC's and how LSAC writes them, aren't always described generally/examples of what the wrong AC means aren't always given (e.g. LSAC means by this wording that the argument did this _____, but the argument did this ____, so this AC is wrong). Maybe I've overlooked the curriculum for information on this? I often really overthink these questions, and what the AC is trying to say, and need some #Help!!

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