LR is pretty clear for me: I get to redo the ones I circle because they were hard at that time. If I don't circle a question and I get it wrong, well then I missed something big and need to figure out what.

In RC and LG, misunderstandings can carry through entire passages/games. Do ya'll redo the entire section for these and add BR scores for every question? Or do you, as in LR, only add BR scores for the one's you circled?

At the moment, I am redoing the entire LG and RC sections with a clean copy in BR, but only adding BR answers to analytics for questions that I circled.

Thanks for your input!

I don't know why but I have been having trouble translating any statement that has 'neither nor' in it.

For example, how would I translate this statement into formal logic/shorthand.

Neither Garrett nor Genrietta finishes earlier than Luisa.

Thank you in advance!

I was just doing a timed PT and I found that many of the questions, due to having gone through the CC, are familiar. I've encountered most of them a while ago, but the familiarity of the questions ruins my confidence in my score. I ended up scoring 168, but I really don't know how to feel about it. Any suggestions on the type of mentality I should have when I experience similar events? Despite the fact that I didn't remember the correct answers to these questions, it still feels like I cheated. I'm sure this will occur again and again as I PT more, so I'd like to know what you think.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/12/13/study-high-standardized-test-scores-dont-translate-to-better-cognition

http://worklife.columbia.edu/files_worklife/public/Pros_and_Cons_of_Standardized_Testing_1.pdf

I thought these were two interesting links about standardized testing. They may not specifically be about the LSAT, but they do offer some insight about the pitfalls of this type of testing. I think the LSAT (and as a matter of fact all standardized admissions test) should be done away with. I recognize the need for an equal scoring system, but I would imagine every year students are denied from schools because they didn't perform well enough on a test, when in reality could be the best and brightest students in a field and their class. I don't know what the solution should be, maybe less weight for the LSAT in the admissions process, maybe admissions officer do more research about an applicants school/major, perhaps more schools conduct rounds of interviews with applicants? All of these of course take more resources that may not be available to all schools, but I think a new system is needed. What do the might fine minds of 7 sage thing?

This is essentially two questions. One is serious and one is not.

How many of you guys use Study Buddies? Has this been a big asset to you? A distraction? I'm trying to decide if I should continue to study alone or try to find someone to study with.

The not serious question is who all is your study buddy? Currently, mine is a small kitten I fostered earlier this summer who finds the videos fascinating. He has logged the CC hours right along side me, probably retaining more then I have lol.

Good afternoon everyone!

Can one submit one's transcripts to the AACRAO so that one gets evaluation of one's UG performance, before taking the LSAT?

I have read that the CAS ( formerly LSDAS) uses AACRAO evaluation services to determine how good or bad one did in UG.

I plan on taking the LSAT this February 2018, but before taking, I would like to know where I stand as an international applicant. Or does the CAS calculate GPA only when you are applying to law schools?

In other words, if one's not applying to law schools immediately, can one engage transcript evaluation of AACRAO or CAS just to assess where one stands?

Alternatively is there anyone here who can provide a tentative LSDAS GPA for an international student like me, whom I can PM?

Thank you.

Hey all :) I've never started a thread on this board so here it goes. I'm sure everyone has a bad PT every now and then, but I just had my first major PT fumble since starting my studies. It really feels like a kick in the gut in the confidence department. I'm sure this is a problem most people have and I'm really just bringing the drama (I tend to do that), but what are some tips you all have about getting over the initial freakout period in cases like this?

Here's some background. My highest PT is a 171, my lowest is a 161 (not counting my diagnostic), and my average is about a 167. I just got a 162 on a PT (BR 169). I do two PTs a week with blind review, studying about 30 hours a week in total (I'm a freelance editor so I'm hashtagblessed with a flexible schedule). I've been plateauing between 166-168 for a while now so I was kind of hoping my first foray out of that bracket for weeks wouldn't be a significant drop. And what my BR tells me is twofold: one, PR and PF questions are going to haunt my dreams until the end of days and two, timing really makes me lose my shit. Tips on how to quell clock-related anxiety are much appreciated because my heart rate enters "girl you may need an elephant tranquilizer" territory real quick.

I can't tell if I want to just halt PTs for a little and hit the ground running tomorrow drilling my weaknesses or just take a few days off completely. But if I'm being real, I just need to vent my frustrations with people who get the pressure we put ourselves under. People around me are understandably a little baffled that I'm beating the crap out of myself for what seems like no reason. Anyway, I appreciate you getting to the end of this and if I had medals to hand out, I totally would. Any feedback is appreciated since my current approach of crying buckets full of crazy LSAT tears is, you know, not the best.

Hey all,

Any tips or advice on when to employ these two very different BR methods? I've found in the past that when I do full-test BR a few days later my BR score is significantly higher than when I only BR questions I circled during the normal PT (the ones where I felt (100% certain). I know this indicates that over-confidence is an issue, but I'm not sure how to address it.(/p)

Any idea when the LR videos for test question explanation will be back up and running?

I am by no means a master of this test BUT i had located a recurring question type that i struggled with.. NA, and i am proud to say that i have conquered it!!!

How? With intense drilling.

I took all the NA questions from PT 1-20 and broke them into small digestible groups of 5s

I then did them at random times through the day for a week.

NA is the strangest question type for me bc it asks for something that is so obvious that my brain fills in the information for me.

By becoming sensitive to the kind of "in your face" obviousness that the question is asking for, makes the AC stand out like a sore thumb.

If anyone else has success stories or methods of slaying the beast (lsat), i would love to hear them

As we know, law schools only accept certain LSAT dates, for instance in Canada the last LSAT many schools accept is February, to start the following fall. When should we write the LSAT? When we are ready? For instance, in Canada, taking the LSAT earlier can give you an advantage over those who take the February one. What to do? I guess one can take the exam, and if they screw up, simply take it again, as law schools count the highest score.

Hey Everyone,

Hope everyone is progressing through their studies. I had a quick question regarding BR methods for PT's. I have heard several people reference that they continue fool proofing LG as they PT. I think that this a great idea, but I'm unsure how to go about it. For example, I just took PT40 today (flight game absolutely killed me). After taking the PT, should I watch the explanation videos for the game and then try to do the game again/week later?

Also, if you wouldn't mind just quickly sharing, how long does it normally take you to BR? I'm hoping to take ~1-2 PT's per week and was thinking that I could PT in the morning, BR 2 sections later in the day, and then BR the last 2 the following day. Does this sound feasible?

As always, thank you for your responses.

HEY EVERYONE,

Took PT 65 on Monday and I got a 171 on it!! WOOO. JY's message hyped me up and suggested I celebrate my victory so here it goes! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASS.

Tips: You CAN do it. Try drilling your weakness, COFFEE, ENOUGH SLEEP, WATER - seriously, don't forget about the non-test related essentials :)

Best of luck,

171

Taking the LSAT in Sept - just finished LSAT trainer/my 3rd prep test (65) and the one section I'm not feeling even alright in is RC. I scored a 162 on the above test and missed 12 in RC. For those who have seen improvement - how do you train yourself to synthesize the information quickly and accurately so as to be able to answer the questions that follow? Unless the content is fairly simple, I have a hard time doing the above.

Hi guys,

I recently attended a law school forum in DC and met a lot of schools. Is it ok if I actually write about admissions officer I spoke to at the forum?

Something like: "My recent discussion with Ms. __ __ affirmed my decision to make (enter school name) my top choice. She raved the JD/MPH program......"

Is that ok? Of course I won't make up the conversation we had, but i highly doubt they will remember me anyways lol.

So in the LG section JY has target times for each LG game, but I am unable to find this same thing for the RC passages. I am practicing RC and using JY's method; I spend 4 minutes up from reading the passage, visualizing the structure, and summarizing each paragraph inside my head after I read it. And then just tackle the questions. Sometimes passages take 7 minutes, sometimes 9 or more depending on the level of questions. What method do you guys use to determine a target time in which you should finish the passage in a section?

Hey guys,

Just wanted to get some opinions on who is a really good tutor to help me with my Reading comp and LR.

I am having a lot of trouble with Reading comp. Definitely my worst section by far usually score around 15. My LR is not that bad scoring around 17 but I would like to get much better at these two sections before my planned February exam. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks boys and girls!

Why is D a flaw?

How many PT in total are we generally advised to take, prior to the actual exam? I will finish the core curriculum soon and will have about one month to take pt's. Is that enough? (taking the sep lsat)

The question banks have them as silent videos but I really want to have them on paper in front me to drill. Thank you in advance.

Last PT before we get into the 70s!

RC PT 69 Tuesday 7 PM ET

Experimental from PT 41 LR section 1

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Requirements:

The That's So Ravenclaw study group is for 12 people who are committed to studying and improving their test performance for the September 2017 LSAT. Workshops and intensives to eliminate weaknesses will also be made available to the study group. Tuesday at 7pm is our additional study time to meet to go over other questions we didn't get to on Sunday. Comment below if you would like me to tag you for our meetings. This group will be going private in 3 weeks.

Tentative Schedule: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=00ppvvc0gp9hdvin7b0p3igdhg%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York

Hey so I'm a little frustrated because I feel i'm missing out on some pretty basic questions because of the time pressure and then when i go back and review I figure out the right answer. My questions is how do you comprehend all this info and get to the right answer so fast. Is it basically practice makes perfect? Thanks!

I've been searching for hours but haven't been able to find a useful or remotely comprehensive list. It seems like Northwestern and Georgetown do in-person interviews, and Harvard, Columbia, and UChicago do videoconference interviews. Does anyone else know about the other schools? I mainly ask because I'm debating whether I should even apply to the schools that require in-person interviews, as I will be out of the country next winter/spring and wouldn't be able to fly back without the school actually subsidizing my travel.

Thanks in advance for any useful info!

EDIT: Probably easier to organize by school and update as we get info.

Harvard: Video interview

Yale: No interview

Stanford: No interview

Columbia: Video interview

Chicago: Video interview

Penn: ?? (their website says their admissions committee occasionally asks to interview candidates, but it seems uncommon)

NYU: No interview

Berkeley: No interview

Michigan: No interview

Virginia: Interview (phone? video? in-person?)

Northwestern: In-person interview

Georgetown: In-person group interview

Duke: ??

Cornell: ??

Feeling bummed because I was denied my appeal for the LSAC fee waiver. Initially, I was denied because my cash balances are too high. Today I got the email that my appeal was denied as well.

Short version: Unemployed since December beside small gigs and events

Cash balance: 800 in checking, 800 in savings

Credit Card Debt: $1400 (interest free for two more months)

Living for $100 rent with grandparents (trade off is extremely limited job market)

Made $4,000 last year on tax return

Parents not a factor

Did anyone else get denied and feel like they are judging on the wrong things? I could be completely wrong, but I feel like I am being punished for not paying off that debt, because if I did, I would have $200 to live on until I get employed. God forbid, I register for the test, CAS...

Enough of my pity party though.

Now I know I have to postpone my test until Dec and I am worried scholarship money won’t still be available.

Does anyone know of a good resource of where you can see how much scholarship money has been given out by schools in previous years by the months?

I'm taking the LSAT in Sept 2017. I work full time, and am considering taking a few days or a week off of work at some point between now and the test. When would folks advise would be best? I'd like to use the time to really focus on studying, take a few more PTs, etc. I am thinking maybe the first week of September. I want to do it early enough that I can still have some improvements from studying (meaning, I don't think taking the week right before the test is when I would see real gains). Any thoughts on timing are appreciated--thanks!