Specifically, I am looking at PT 68.S2.Q23, the second sentence: "We must therefore reject Tolstoy's rash claim that if we knew a lot about the events leading up to any action, we would cease to regard that action as freely performed").

So that would be diagrammed out as:

Not (know about events ---> ~freely performed)

Which I was told turns into:

(Know about events ---> freely performed)

My question is a theoretical one, and that is: WHY do you negate a conditional by introducing the sufficient and denying the necessary?

2 follow up questions:

Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading another twelve-hour long LR workshop (#2) over four nights (three hours per night) for four students to provide an intensive and comprehensive overview of all foundational concepts and their application to all types of LR questions.

Schedule

Session 1 - April 7, Friday, 7pm - 10pm EST

Session 2 - April 8, Saturday, 7pm - 10pm EST

Session 3 - April 9, Sunday, 7pm - 10pm EST

Session 4 - April 10, Monday, 7pm - 10pm EST

Cost

Free. But! There's a $150 deposit to reserve your spot. If you show up on time and participate for the entire duration of all sessions, your deposit will automatically be refunded fully at the end of the workshop. Otherwise, it is forfeit. Please make sure you can attend the entire 12 hour long workshop.

[Registration will open within 72 hours]

#Frequently Asked Questions

Q: How will you select which four students will participate?

A: First-come, first-served. The first four students to successfully place the deposit will be selected.

Q: What if I'm the fifth person to sign up?

A: Since there are only four spots, you will be automatically refunded.

Q: Who should take this workshop and what will be covered?

A: Beginners. This means you haven't finished the Core Curriculum yet and you're not starting to take PrepTests yet. Imagine the workshop as a fast paced overview of the entire Core Curriculum that pertains to LR. We'll cover theory and we'll apply that theory to actual LSAT questions. It will be highly interactive and hence the limit of four students. Wherever you are in the Core Curriculum, this a great way to solidify the concepts covered.

Q: Can I sign up even if I'm not a beginner?

A: Yes, you can. I'm certain that it'll benefit you to return to concepts covered in the Core Curriculum. I'm also certain that you will find it very slow at times since I will be speaking to students on the assumption that they are beginners.

Q: Do I need to have a paid 7Sage account to sign up?

A: Yes, you do. If you have an expired account, message Dillon and see if he's willing to reactivate it for you.

Q: What materials are used in this workshop?

A: The workbook that you will be provided with will contain LR questions from PrepTests 54, 55, and 56. Yes, we will be "burning" those PrepTests in order to get a closer look at the modern LSAT.

Q: What do I need to do to prepare for the workshop if I get in?

A: You should print the above mentioned workbook. You should be in a quiet space where you can talk freely. You should have a fast internet connection. You should have headphones or earphones ready.

Q: How do I attend the workshop?

A: The workshop will be hosted on Go To Meeting, like all of 7Sage's webinars. Instructions and meeting location will be sent to you once you've successfully registered.

Q: Will there be more workshops in LR / LG / RC in the future?

A: Yes. This session accommodates east coasters who work during the day. Future sessions will accommodate others.

I started back up in January after graduating and moving and was hoping to be ready for the June exam. But with my new commitment to do this right the 2nd time round, it has taken me a lot longer to get through the CC. Plus, I have been really influenced by everyone on here to try and master the concepts better and I feel betting on myself in September will get me to my target score (168-170 range).

I hope this post helps those who are debating on pushing things back a bit. It sucks but I feel like I have a better shot at doing taking this test once and being done. There is nothing wrong with admitting you're not where you need to be if that helps you arrive at your final destination in the long run.

7Sagers - I'm aiming to take the LSAT again in June - my 4th go around as I really want to go to Law School (duh) in fall of 2018... Anyways, I fancy myself as one of the worst LSAT takers ever to come about - 144-146-151 (most recent)... I'm currently drilling at 161 average after taking 5 tests (and finishing most of the curriculum for a 2nd time) - 36-37-38-39-40... I've taken those tests before, but it has been a few years, so I think that my question recognition is distant and not an advantage....

The whole point - keep the faith - keep working hard and better results will follow.

One thing I've noticed - my confidence is on a whole different level than a few years ago... And I'm crushing Logic games - I average 2 misses per game roughly... That is key! Reading Comp is rough and Logic Reasoning is still frustrating. I'm not a robot and human... Really dig down the application effect for logic reasoning - don't gloss over the explanations!

My goal is anything over 158 come June and William and Mary Law!

One last piece of advice: find the right balance between practice tests and curriculum review!

Hi guys, could someone explain to me why answer choice C is correct for Q24? It doesn't explicitly say in the passage that the English "allowed" Parliament to make constitutional changes by legislative enactment. I guess this is correct because we can safely assume this was the case? I originally chose (A) but I guess A is wrong because nowhere does it say that the English were uncomfortable with institutions that could claim absolute authority. They were against absolute powers of kings, but not the Parliament. Am I right?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-9-section-1-passage-4-questions/

Also for Q27, I was between A and E, and ended up choosing E correctly. But during BR, I got confused for some reason and changed back to A. Why would A be wrong and E be correct? Any input would be appreciated!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-9-section-1-passage-4-questions/

I heard a sage say, somewhere, that once you are good at fool proofing individual games, you should move on to fool proofing entire sections. What are people's thoughts on this?

I have been fool proofing individual games for many months now and feel ready to "upgrade" my studying to full sections. What are the best strategies to implement this?

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I understand that "ALL" is a sufficiency indicator word, and "REQUIRE" is a necessity indicator word.

I'm wondering then, what does the phrase "ALL that is REQUIRED" indicated? Does it indicate a biconditional relationship?

Specifically, I'm struggling with the sentence "All that is required to create conditions of economic justice (EJ) is the redistribution of wealth (ROW)" ( PT15, Section3, Question 7, Answer choice E).

Thank!

I am still struggling with timing in some sections. At the 5 minute mark when I take practice PT's, I am still bubbling in the last question as the proctor (app) says "Pencils down" (like, filling in the oval). If were to do that during a real exam, would it be an issue? Or does pencils down mean drop your pencil immediately, without filling in the rest of the oval you were bubbling?

Sounds like a small question but I just had to ask.

I've seen Cant Get Right's 3 Phase study plan partially quoted in other posts, but I cannot find it in its entirety.

Can someone link me to it, if possible?

Also, I noticed that he held several webinars in Jan and Feb about it. Is there any update on when/if those might be uploaded as recordings? I am just moving on from the CC and definitely realizing that learning how to learn is necessary for success.

Thanks!

Hi all, does anybody know of any test prep companies/other places in the Philadelphia that offer free in-person proctored PTs or allow you to bring your own to be proctored (without having to sign up for a full course)? Also, any other Philadelphia LSAT resources or a Philadelphia-area study group?

Thanks!

I am a bit confused on how come some Strengthen questions require us to use the Assumption skills from PSA and SA questions. However, there are also some strengthen questions that did not require us to draw out the conditional chains and only requires us to affirm paraphrased "assumptions".

Is it only for questions that have "principle" that we automatically should treat them as PSA or SA questions? Or is it safe to use the PSA and SA method for ALL Strengthen questions?

Any insight on this matter would be greatly appreciated!

Join us as we go over the LR sections in PT 68

Saturday, March 18th at 5PM ET: PT 68

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The Full Schedule

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Note:

Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading a twelve-hour long LR workshop over four nights (three hours per night) for four students to provide an intensive and comprehensive overview of all foundational concepts and their application to all types of LR questions.

Schedule

Session 1 - March 31, Friday, 7pm - 10pm EST

Session 2 - April 1, Saturday, 7pm - 10pm EST

Session 3 - April 2, Sunday, 7pm - 10pm EST

Session 4 - April 3, Monday, 7pm - 10pm EST

Cost

Free. But! There's a $150 deposit to reserve your spot. If you show up on time and participate for the entire duration of all sessions, your deposit will automatically be refunded fully at the end of the workshop. Otherwise, it is forfeit. Please make sure you can attend the entire 12 hour long workshop.

#Frequently Asked Questions

Q: How will you select which four students will participate?

A: First-come, first-served. The first four students to successfully place the deposit will be selected.

Q: What if I'm the fifth person to sign up?

A: Since there are only four spots, you will be automatically refunded.

Q: Who should take this workshop and what will be covered?

A: Beginners. This means you haven't finished the Core Curriculum yet and you're not starting to take PrepTests yet. Imagine the workshop as a fast paced overview of the entire Core Curriculum that pertains to LR. We'll cover theory and we'll apply that theory to actual LSAT questions. It will be highly interactive and hence the limit of four students. Wherever you are in the Core Curriculum, this a great way to solidify the concepts covered.

Q: Can I sign up even if I'm not a beginner?

A: Yes, you can. I'm certain that it'll benefit you to return to concepts covered in the Core Curriculum. I'm also certain that you will find it very slow at times since I will be speaking to students on the assumption that they are beginners.

Q: Do I need to have a paid 7Sage account to sign up?

A: Yes, you do. If you have an expired account, message Dillon and see if he's willing to reactivate it for you.

Q: What materials are used in this workshop?

A: The workbook that you will be provided with will contain LR questions from PrepTests 54, 55, and 56. Yes, we will be "burning" those PrepTests in order to get a closer look at the modern LSAT.

Q: What do I need to do to prepare for the workshop if I get in?

A: You should print the above mentioned workbook. You should be in a quiet space where you can talk freely. You should have a fast internet connection. You should have headphones or earphones ready.

Q: How do I attend the workshop?

A: The workshop will be hosted on Go To Meeting, like all of 7Sage's webinars. Instructions and meeting location will be sent to you once you've successfully registered.

Q: Will there be more workshops in LR / LG / RC in the future?

A: Yes. This session accommodates east coasters who work during the day. Future sessions will accommodate others.

Does the personal statement necessarily need to be focused on a recent moment in our lives? Could we talk about an event that happened before college, as long as it references a hobby that you intermittently do to this day?

I always see J.Y. breaking down argument structures in the video explanations, but I was wondering if it is a recommended process to do during the timed portions. I have got to the point where I can naturally tell/take mental notes of what exactly is context and where the various arguments begin and end. That said, is it worth the time spent?

Edit: I also do not break down the structure in BR. The same question applies for that as well.

Thank you!

So...

I am currently on spring break, and plan on being 100% done with the curriculum by the weekend. My first week back I have a couple exams so just going to go over a few logic games sections and some reading comp sections to stay fresh. Then I am thinking every Friday (no classes on Friday) I take a practice exam, and during the day Saturday (potentially into the early portions of the following week) Blind Review and then go back over stuff in the curriculum (or other resources) that I feel like I struggled in. Then rinse and repeat until June 12th (possibly upping my practice test number per week as I get closer and when classes end).

Does this seem like a solid plan of action? I have taken two practice exams (scored 154, 160) so far, and went through a whole LSAT book (The LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim). I plan on taking it again in September depending how my score is in June. Any input would be appreciated!

Hello-

I am planning to start studying for LSAT, trying to figure out a way to start, having a toddler is not easy in managing time.

I have a 3.2 GPA and want to get in good school. I want to take September test, haven't start studying yet. How can 7sage help, which program would be the best to work with?

Overall: 9/10

Proctors: Amazing! Literally not one thing I could complain about. The proctors were very nice and relaxed before the test and completely quiet during. They all knew what they were talking about and did everything very efficiently. Proper time warnings were given for every section and we even ended up getting 30 seconds or so between sections, didn't feel rushed at all.

Facilities: Really nice campus! Clean bathrooms right near the testing rooms and a decent amount of space to walk around/chill during the break. The one complaint I have about the testing center overall was that it was a bit difficult to find the building (University Hall). Montclair State University is kind of split into a lower and upper campus, with the main entrance/GPS address bringing you to the lower half, but the testing building in the upper. You can access the upper campus from the top level of the parking garage, but there weren't any signs (that I could see), so if I hadn't found this info on the University website I probably would've been lost for awhile.

What kind of room: Large, 100-seat lecture halls, all right next to each other. If you google "Montclair State University Hall Room 1070" you can see a 360 degree panoramic view of what the rooms look like, which I LOVED because it made me feel so much more comfortable going into it (without going all the way there to see it myself). The chairs were comfortable and adjustable, the lighting was good, and the temperature wasn't too hot or too cold, but there was no clock in the room.

How many in the room: I want to say 30-ish people were in my testing room, but other test-takers who had been there before said that the Feb exam had a very low turnout compared to other administrations. However, we were assigned to every other chair, and the rows didn't feel cramped at all, so I don't think it would've mattered much if there were more people there.

Desks: THE BEST! Long tables with plenty of room to spread out and no risk of spilling into your neighbor's space because they left a chair open between each test-taker. I get super distracted by any movement in my peripheral vision, but i had no such issues here. There were random little microphones mounted on the desk in some places, but the few people seated near them were able to scoot their chairs over so they weren't in the way.

Left-handed accommodation: Not applicable. Yay for long table-desks!

Noise levels: Perfectly quiet throughout the entire exam. I was actually surprised to see that one of the testing rooms next-door got out slightly before us for the break because we couldn't hear ANYTHING inside.

Parking: The big parking garage on campus is called the Red Hawk Parking deck, and I believe it cost $8.00 for the day. LSAT testers could go to some office and get a special parking discount, but I'm not sure how much because I just wanted to escape ASAP haha.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: They began check-in at 8:25ish and we started the test a little before 9:00. One of the proctors I was chatting with said that a 9:00am start is typical.

Irregularities or mishaps: None! The only difficulty I had was finding the building, but it was no problem once I looked up a campus map on their website (which I honestly should've done beforehand anyways).

Other comments: My testing experience went as smoothly as I think it could possibly go. I highly recommend taking it here!

Would you take the test here again? Definitely!

Date[s] of Exam[s]: February 4th, 2016

Hello,

During In-Out Games, I am consistently getting confused between the Not Both Rule and the Biconditional (Always Together/Never Together) Rule. I am aware of the fundamentals, but get quite confused when the wording is sometimes difficult to fully grasp the meaning.

For instance, in PT29 S3 Game 1, the second rule states "Bill 1 cannot be paid on the same day as Bill 5."

In PT26 S1 Game 4, the first rule states "Gibson and Vega do not serve on the panel in the same year as each other."

Both look quite identical, and I initially incorrectly interpreted the first statement as a Not Both, and the second statement as a Never Together. So my questions are:

Can anyone explain why the first statement is a Never Together while the second one is a Not Both?

I was wondering if anyone had some advice on how to quickly determine a rule as a [Not Both Rule] or a [Never together/always apart Rule], especially under timed conditions.

Thanks in advance!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-29-section-3-game-1/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-1-game-4/

The day I have been waiting for!!!! No longer will I have to wrestle my book on the scanner to get a solid copy/scan!!! Winning!!! Thanks 7Sage!!!!

So, J.Y.'s pretty awesome:

http://ms-jd.org/blog/article/jy-ping-7sage

Hi, I am looking for a person who would like to study with me for the LSAT. I'm in Seattle. Let me know if you're interested and we can grab a coffee.

Hey guys,

Any tips on post core-curriculum ideas?

My first four PT's have been stagnant at 158-161. I didn't take a cold diagnostic and my first PT was 161.

Specifically,

A: What is a good PT schedule?

B: How do you recommend drilling LR?

C: How do you recommend going back to the core curriculum to review?

D : Is it normal to have your first four PT's show almost no improvement in raw score?

I'm writing in June and am planning on doing PT 35-80.

Thanks in advance!

PS: I think @"Cant Get Right" did a webinar on this; any take-aways from that webinar since I wasn't able to attend?

Hey,

I've been put on the preferred waitlist at two t-14 school and wont know if I got off the waitlist until after May. However, one of the non- t-14 but still really solid school gave me until May,1st to accept the full scholarship public interest fellowship and if I don't accept it by then, I won't receive the full ride. However accepting the fellowship means that I have to withdraw my application from all other schools. Honestly, I want to be a public interest lawyer and the school which I received a full ride to is a very strong program for that. However, the two t-14 schools I was waitlisted at have more name recognition but since I was waitlisted I assume I wont be receiving much if any scholarships to go into those schools even if accepted, is that a correct assumption? Is getting the risk of the waitlist at a t-14 worth passing up a full ride scholarship?