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Hi, what is OPA JY is talking about in passage explanations?

Thanks!

Hi guys,

Whenever I'm conducting a blind review on logical reasoning I always find that at the end of the test I've circled anywhere from 12-17 questions for review per section. I am usually scoring in the high 160s but I feel like this is too many questions to not be 100% sure about. Has anyone else found this?

Also do people do a blind review of LG and RC the same way? Usually I end us just redoing those entire sections for practise.

Hello,

I really liked the RC explanations, and just wondering do you have explanations for RC only?

Like, for the newest 10 PTs or something like that?

Thanks!

So, I just did timed pt and scored 16/24 on logic games (ran out of time on the 1st question of the last game). Do you think if i print the games from pt 1-35 and just drill them until I get them right under time conditions it will improve my score? Will 35 tests be enough? Ideally, obviously, I would like to get them all correct. Though being realistic about my skills, I am aiming to get 22/24 on the actual day.

So... my question is whether I'm making the right decision by taking the September LSAT. I have a 3.8 GPA and I'm aiming for a 164-166 on the LSAT... Now, from the last 5 PT's, I've scored 161 twice, 164 twice and a 162. I've noticed that on days where I wake up feeling really good, I end up getting a 164, which makes me feel like I'm literally RIGHT there at around a 164-166 range. The issue is that i'd wanna hit the score a few more times before test date so i can go in confidently. (Which can still happen given that i have a couple more weeks.) Another thing is that if I do miss my target score by a couple points, I can take it again in December with a bit more improvement so I'd have two tries at it. Anyway, i feel like this post is all over the place lol. What do you guys think? (I also want to take the test earlier so i can submit my apps earlier, which would give me an advantage in the application process.) I'd appreciate any feedback.

How many letters of recommendation is good? 2? 3?

I was just reviewing the comparative passage video by JY for PT 75 and had never encountered the approach of doing questions after passage A and then doing them again after passage B. Does anyone know where on 7sage I can find more about that strategy. I feel like I missed it somewhere. Do other 7sagers like this strategy/find it helpful? It seems like it would take extra time and I struggle with time on RC as it is. But perhaps it is like splitting game boards on LG where you make up the time on the questions?

I got a question for high scorers; when you see an argument like PT 22 - Section 4 - Question 21 that have sufficiency necessity confusion but you decide to not map it out, do you have a absolute certainty that it is sufficiency necessity confusion or you just have a feeling for it? I am asking because when I read the question I thought it probably is sufficiency necessity confusion but I was not 100% sure until I mapped it out during BR.

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Hey guys! I hope your study is going well... I just have a few questions you may be able to help with:)

I have been a bit confused on the exact definition of a few common words that continue to appear on LR Answer Choices. For example, "It qualifies the conclusion of the argument." I have always thought that to qualify something, you make it more relevant, or more suitable. Or to be eligible for something. Is this what the LSAT writer means as well?

And another, "Takes for granted that there are only two possible alternative explanations." Does this mean that, the argument assumes that there are only two explanations, without supporting with evidence?

And lastly, is there a difference between "Phenomenon and Correlation?" JY's lesson explains that Correlation includes two events happening concurrently but many answer choices use the word, "Phenomenon" in a confusing way. They use it when the stimulus seems only to address simply a causation/correlation event.

I am sure there is some document out there that defines the LSAT's common words..if so, I would LOVE to see that:D

Thank you all for the help!!

-Hannah

Hi guys, after advanced logic I ended up skipping the logic games lessons because I wanted to focus on just lr. I am now going to start the logic games part of the curriculum (I have just done linear games). I was wondering if I would miss out on anything by just doing the reading comprehension and LR section on the trainer and skipping the logic games (because I want to use 7sage solely for that). What do you think, and are the lessons interlaced in anyway in the trainer?

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I need help in understand why D is wrong. I understand why E is correct. My reasoning is below, if you think my reasoning is faulty please let me know!! Thank you!

So I diagrammed the stimulus as such:

SAT --> PCS --> --LPR --> SGM

--SGM --> LPR --> --PCS --> --SAT (this is the contrapositive)

A) This answer choice is going in the wrong direction. We cannot infer anything about squeezing foreign competitors out of the global market, from a country raising prices.

B) Faulty conditional logic. We know a chain of conditions that can lead to a country being squeezed out of the global market, however, we cannot use that condition as a sufficient condition. It takes a necessary condition and makes it sufficient and uses a previously used sufficient condition and makes that necessary. This is an incorrect reversal.

C) I eliminated this because of the clause "their foreign competitors must have adopted new manufacturing techniques", just because they lowered their production costs more rapidly it doesn't mean that they adopted new manufacturing techniques, it could have been because of some other reason.

D) This is what I am unsure of. I said this is wrong because it is comparative, it's bout what happens to a particular country not comparing both countries. However, I think two countries are being compared which contradicts my whole reasoning. So, if someone could help me out in understanding why D is wrong, I would be most appreciative.

E) This is the contrapositive of the first two premises and thus the correct answer.

Hi all, first time poster here!

I've done quite a few practice tests and while there is (happily) a general upward trend between all of them, my last 5 are sort of all over the place with 10 points between the best and worst and no decipherable trend. While it seems like one should be scoring within a certain range (for example, 160-165), I am not sure what the acceptable limits of the range are- that is, a 10-point range seems way too large to accurately predict a potential test-day score. So my questions are:

1. What does constitute as an acceptable range within which one can reasonably get a good idea of what their score will be on test day? 5 points? 6? 7? What is your range from your last 5 tests, and do you feel it accurately reflects your potential?

2. How does one differentiate between a representative score on a PT and an outlier score? (An outlier score being one that is way above or way below the mainstream, and since it doesn't fit in with the general trend, may not actually represent anything of significance.) Example: Did I score 175, which is x points above my average, because I'm legitimately improving, or because I got lucky that day?

3. Any tips on making scores more consistent? All of my sections are usually +/- 5 EXCEPT for RC which is either real good or real bad and never in between...

Thank you all in advance for the help!

So, I got this question right and I understand why the correct answer is correct and the others are wrong, but I need a little help figuring out C. Is it wrong because of the word only?

A) Murray never states his opinion on this, he just states that Jane claims this and her criticism is wrong in she does not criticize others.

B) M doesn't say whether it is wrong or right, he is just critiquing J's argumentation. J never says she thinks this is wrong although I think it is implied in her criticism of the politician.

C) I was deciding between this and E, I ultimately went with E because I thought only was too strong and there could be reasons other than her dislike such as the potential principle that it is wrong to accept gifts from lobbyists.

D) Jane agrees with this, Murray we don't know how he feels. All we know is that he doesn't like Jane singling out the one politician.

E) I would say this is true because of both arguments. M says regardless of Senator Brandon's involvement at least others have done the same. J acknowledges that she has not criticized the same point in other politicians indicating that Senator Brandon is not alone in this practice.

So, if someone can help me understand C better or let me know if I am on the right track, I would be most appreciative!

I am BRing this question and am having a hard time convincing myself why the answer is A. not E. any input would be helpful.

Descriptive Flaw Question:

Scientists found that there is a greater frequency of illness among people who sleep atleast 8 hours per night than there is for people who sleep significantly fewer hours. This shows that mild sleep deprivation isn't unhealthy and probably bolsters your immune system

A. Another factor that contributes to both phenomena - Sure this seems reasonable maybe eating a bunch of kale makes you sleep terribly and also makes you get sick less often so sleep deprivation doesn't bolster your immune system

B. Wrong - The passage doesn't take a position on whether sleeplessness is the ONLY factor that contributes to immune system development, this is not a flaw with the argument

C. Wrong - An amalgamation of LSAT buzzwords that is meant to attract plebs

D. Wrong - I don't think it takes for granted that an observable correlation would occur, it sounds like the passage establishes that something observable happened and tries to explain it.

E. The passage says "wow people get sick less frequently when they're sleep deprived, it must be that sleep deprivation is not unhealthy" this flawed reasoning seems to be exactly what is described in answer choice E. Because illness is not associated with sleep deprivation then sleep deprivation must not have other negative consequences. What if sleep deprivation also gives you cancer, what if sleep deprivation also makes you fall asleep at the wheel. This flaw just seems considerably larger to me than any issue of not considering that there is a third factor at play as per answer choice A.

Any insight on this question would be greatly appreciated.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-1-question-18

Hello!

Like some of you, I am feeling the effects of burnout and am still planning to test in September after consistently hitting my target. However, I was wondering what all of your takes were on reading for pleasure in the meantime. For example, I was thinking about beginning the 4th Harry Potter book, but wasn't sure if this was a good idea. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Hi guys,

I've reached a precarious situation in which my performance on the RC has become a trade-off between time and accuracy. If I try to run through the passages quickly, I tend to get many answers incorrect. If I try to spend more time on each question, I generally increase my chances of getting those questions right but I find it difficult to finish the last passage (not necessarily the 4th one). Does this happen to anyone else? How can I resolve this conundrum?

Sometimes when I would study for the LSAT I often wondered what was the history behind the exam and how it came to be. I noticed the first LSAT with a pdf file was in 1991 and I always wondered how did individuals become lawyers prior to the first LSAT. I found a pdf article about the topic and wanted to share it.

http://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source/publications-(lsac-resources)/history-lsac-lsat.pdf

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Hi,

My question is regarding the letters of recommendation for LSAC. I decided that I am going to apply next year for law school (not ready for the LSAT), but I want to get my other requirements for the application process out of the way. I was wondering if I get my professors to send my letter of recommendations in this year, if I will be able to use it for next year's application. I just want to make sure that LSAC wont delete the letters from the system when the new application cycle begins.

I tried calling LSAC but they are closed today and I already contacted my professors for the letters of rec.

Hi all,

I've been reviewing my PT performance, and I seem to be missing the hardest problems in LR (across a variety of Q types). Any recommendations for how to improve on the hardest problems in LR?

Thanks!

Re-posting in this forum in addition to the discussion on the explanation video -

I'm having a hard time with A. Doesn't the contrapositive of A also link the ought & promise?

Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-78-section-1-question-14/

LSAC says "no erasers with sleeves" (http://www.lsac.org/jd/lsat/day-of-test).

I'm pretty sure they meant erasers with paper wrapping that you can easily take off and on.

I use this eraser because it's so easy and quick for me to erase things on my answer sheet: https://www.amazon.com/Pentel-Eraser-Retractable-Assorted-ZE21BP3-K6/dp/B001HA77OO

But it has a black case. Is this considered a sleeve? Any help or insight would be appreciated. Thank you!

Worst case scenario, I'm thinking the proctor looks at my eraser and tells me to chuck it, in which case I'll have brought a back-up plain eraser.

I have taken lot of PTs old and new and have all of the recent PTs except for C2 (the previously undisclosed test in Superprep 2). I do not want to leave any stone unturned but within reason. $20 for one PT (I already have the other two from Superprep 2) seems silly unless (group 3 negate sufficient) there is a definite benefit. Is it recent (does anyone even know)? Does it have unusual games? I am probably leaning toward getting it but wanted to see what experience people have with it and what advice that experience would generate.