I've read here that it's best to take some of the newer tests a month before so that you have more time to learn from them and adjust your methods.

I have around 35 PTs available: all of the SuperPrep, 45-50, most of the 50s, and 60+.

I'm creating a PT schedule tonight and I'd like to know the best way to order the tests. Many here have taken all of them and if you can help me out that would be great. Also do I save any for a potential retake?

Hey 7Sage, I'm having the toughest time understanding why Answer B is the correct answer for this question. In reviewing my original answer choice, D, I can understand why I was incorrect in choosing it, but am caught up between answer choices B and C. Why is B correct as opposed to C? Any feedback is appreciated!

I still don't see how B is the basis for disagreement. Otis would definitely say "yes" to answer choice B, but in my mind, Tyra gives no opinion or "yes" as well. Tyra explicitly says that she accepts Aritisotle's principle of justice, so how would she disagree with answer choice B? Where does Tyra comment on the fact that the situations aren't relevantly similar?

I eliminate B and chose D (which I really didn't like since the passage didn't talk about "asking" nor that dentists should always accept after hours appointments; why can't they accept no after hours appointments?). I just couldn't get myself to choose B.

Hello there everyone,

happy to say that I finally got myself out of burn out and back into the "killing the lsat while riding a unicorn" mindset.

I am planning on taking the Dec 5th, LSAT (Not sure if that's a good idea or not). I did a PT before starting the 7Sage program and my baseline score was a 137 (I didn't have enough time to finish LG but I thought I was going to get a 120 so I surprised myself for an LSAT noob). I am getting through the 7Sage program slowly as I am going back and re-taking lessons and re-doing quizzes and practice questions so I 100% get it before moving on.

Anyways, I was wondering if anyone else is taking another form of LSAT prep? Like a course? (I'm in Canada so some courses we don't have here) or reading books? I've heard lots about the LSAT Trainer and the Powerscore LG Bible and I will be taking a LG weekend course in Toronto in Nov.

Just wanted to get some opinions as I kind of feel like the 7Sage program might not be enough. I did buy the Kaplan books last year but I find them very hard to follow and haven't heard good things about the Kaplan program so I want to keep my LSAT mind away from any bad habits Kaplan would get me in.

Thanks :)

Hello! I just got my Academic Summary report back from LSAC and it has recalculated my GPA to be far higher than my university lists it as. The policy differs from college to college within my university, but mine doesn't count grades received from performing and visual arts classes into our GPA's. The arts classes must be taken for credit and the grade is shown on my official transcript, so LSAC went ahead and added them to my GPA. (It's kind of nice I guess because one of my ensembles is pretty demanding and eats up between 10 - 20 hours a week of my time. I love it, but it's challenging at times with work/class.)

Do you think I'll need to write an addendum to explain the discrepancy? Also, I know they'll get my university transcript anyways, so is the boost pointless?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-55-section-1-question-21/

The principle I thought was

Premise: Not buy-> cancel

Conclusion: feel worth preserving-> buy.

So the gap is feel worth preserving-> NOT cancel

So that's why I chose D. But the answer is B. And I can't still find out why D is wrong and B is an answer.

Am I missing something?

Please someone explain me why D is incorrect and B is an right.

Oh and what's the differences between A and B? (They look almost identical to me.)

Thanks!

I really don't understand why C is incorrect.

I think "there is another explanation~~" can match "since parthenogenesis is~" part in the stimulus.

Why is C incorrect and A an answer?

Please someone explain me.

Thanks!

I really don't understand why D is incorrect and B has to be an answer.

Some explanations said D is too broad, but I don't see how it's too broad.

I think "in the same industry" can match fax industry so that I think D is correct.

Why is D incorrect and B an answer?

Please someone explain me.

Thanks!

Hey all,

I compiled employment data for the T14 and feeder schools. For the purpose of this, Biglaw=firm with 100+ attorneys

Disclaimer: this data alone does not take self-selection into account

The following is the outcomes in order of the rankings

Yale- 60.43%

Harvard- 71.16%

Stanford- 74.87%

Columbia- 78.85%

Chicago- 75.71%

NYU- 71.40%

Penn- 78.06%

UVA- 67.62%

Duke- 70.23%

Berkeley- 62.37%

Michigan- 53.85%

Northwestern- 64.95%

Cornell- 74.35%

Georgetown- 48.40%

UT- 46.44%

UCLA- 39.58%

Vanderbilt- 41.24%

USC- 41.01%

Fordham- 37%

Ranked in order of outcomes

Columbia

Penn

Chicago

Stanford

Cornell

NYU

Harvard

Duke

UVA

Northwestern

Berkeley

Yale

Michigan

Georgetown

UT

Vanderbilt

USC

UCLA

Fordham

Hi all, I took a non disclosed test in Asia and the proctor told me they have to mail it to LSAC. Is there any way in our LSAC accounts to tell that they have received our test back from the test site and that it's pending score release? Out mail system sucks here so as if I didn't have enough stress, now I'm hoping the mailman doesn't lose it. LOL

I'm stumped on 18. I set my diagram up to have my shelves numbered horizontically and JY sets his up vertically. I got all of the other questions right but I just couldn't figure out 18. Can it just be a coincidence that I got the other questions right and my diagram is just wrong for this passage? Or, am I just missing something in the way that I set up my diagram? My diagram is ok? I'm not getting "w" must be on the 3rd shelf with my diagram.

I'm on my 5th PT, and I've ranged from 156-159 with about 8/9 in LR, 6/7 LG errors, and 7 RC errors on average. My blind review scores are upper 160s. Most of my wrong ? types are Flaws, SA, NA's. Is my best bet to continue PT and drill flaws, NA, SA on my off days? Further, I am concerned that I am scoring low...will my score increase with more familiarity or am I missing some fundamentals possibly. Thanks!

Hi everyone, Just curious how everyone is doing the problem sets. I am reluctant to actually mark up the preptests used for the problem sets as I don't want to ruin them to use as preptests. How are you guys doing this? I can see that it is slowing me down by not writing on them (taking notes & marking the premise and conclusion) because I find myself having to go back and re-read and trying to memorize more instead. How are you guys doing this? Are you making notes on a separate piece of paper or something?

On some of the videos you use the mind map note strategy, I was wondering if you have that available for purchase?

I took the Kaplan program in July and after 3 weeks I was completely lost and virtually clueless as to how LGs were being done and LR was not any easier. After looking online for other resources I found 7sage and it was a huge help especially in LG. It seemed like no matter what I did though I could not seem to determine the game type immediately and timing was/is killing. For RC and LR the biggest flaw I found about myself is the inability to read strategically, I keeping finding myself having to re-read over and over resulting in wasted time and repeating the same mistakes.

This has to be the most stressful exam I have ever taken in my life. When I would see some of the anticipated answers that people would come up with it was a WTF moment for sure. Overall I must say that I enjoyed the challenge and whatever my score is I am ok with. The score is certainly not a result of lack of effort that's for sure.

My lowest prep test score was 136 and highest was 140, I know that Saturday's test was no better. Time to prepare for the December test though.

Any advice, comments or criticism??

Literally, No idea.

Oxygen.18 is a heavier-than-normal isotope of oxygen. In a rain cloud, water molecules containing oxygen-18 are rarer than water molecules containing normal oxygen. But in rainfall, a higher proportion of all water molecules containing oxygen-18 than of all water molecules containing ordinary oxygen descends to earth. Consequently, scientists were surprised when measurements along the entire route of rain clouds' passage from above the Atlantic Ocean, the site of their original formation, across the Amazon forests, where it rains almost daily, showed that the oxygen-18 content of each of the clouds remained fairly constant.

19. Which one of the following statements, if true, best helps to resolve the conflict between scientists' expectations, based on the known behavior of oxygen-18, and the result of their measurements of the rain clouds' oxygen-IS content?

(A) Rain clouds above tropical forests are poorer in oxygen-18 than rain clouds above unforested regions.

(B) Like the oceans, tropical rain forests can create or replenish rain clouds in the atmosphere above them.

(C) The amount of rainfall over the Amazon rain forests is exactly the same as the amount of rain originally collected in the clouds formed above the Atlantic Ocean.

(D) The amount of rain recycled back into the atmosphere from the leaves of forest vegetation is exactly the same as the amount of ram in river runoffs that is not recycled into the atmosphere.

(E) Oxygen-18 is not a good indicator of the effect of tropical rain forests on the atmosphere above them.

20. Which one of the following inferences about an individual rain cloud is supported by the passage?

(A) Once it is formed Over the Atlantic, the rain cloud contains more ordinary oxygen than oxygen-18.

(B) Once it has passed over the Amazon, the rain cloud contains a greater-than-normal percentage of oxygen-18.

(C) The clouds rainfall contains more oxygen-18 than ordinary oxygen.

(D) During a rainfall, the cloud must surrender the same percentage of its ordinary oxygen as of its oxygen-18.

(E) During a rainfall, the cloud must surrender more of its oxygen-l8 than it retains.

I understand how E is correct, but what makes A incorrect?

Doesn't Cynthia think that if a project seeks to further our theoretical understanding, then it should get government funding? And Luis think that Get government funding only if expected to yield practical applications?

Answer choice A says that pure theoretical research should get funding (which C would agree with), but the research might have unforeseen practical applications (which means that the practical applications are not expected). So, doesn't this meet the sufficient condition for C and fail the necessary condition for L? How would they not disagree on this?

True fact: Alexander Flemming would never had discovered penicillin if he had to think of an analogy for penicillin.

Wednesday, October 7th at 8PM ET: PT61

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Hey guys, I just got the LSAT trainer. I'm not officially starting 7sage until I finish school this summer, but I was told to look over the trainer to familiarize myself with the LSAT's material. Are there any sections in the trainer that I don't need to look at, or should I run through everything?

First things first, hello. I am very new to this site, and I found it while scrounging the net for any resources I could get my mitts on. That said, I have a question for any willing and/or able to help.

I know a lot of my weaknesses when I take this test, and I know how to fight a lot of them. For example, I panic when I see the ticking clock, but that can be conditioned out. The main problem I've been having is that while I've been studying for the better part of 3 months (with just shy of 2 to go), it seems like a lot of my practice just churns up the same undesirable results. I check my answers regularly and review helpful question strategies but seem to keep slipping up on stupid, easily avoidable mistakes. Maybe I am simply not cut out for this test, but suffice it to say I refuse to accept that.

To avoid this conclusion, I'd like to know what method(s), shifts in point of view, study regiment changes, and all other such alterations that might have helped you break through to a better grade the most effectively.

Thanks much in advance for any insight you might offer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LSAT/comments/3nqa0l/my_lsat_farewell/

Thought I would share a post I wrote this morning on Reddit. Thanks for all of the support and motivation from this 7sage community, all of your input and advice helped make this test so much more than just a test for me. Hope some of what I wrote can motivate some of you to working a little harder, because that hard work will pay off. Hooooorah to all those test takers who finished up their studies with me on Saturday, and best of luck to all those future test takers, take this test as an opportunity and grab it by the horns!!

I had a hard time with this question. What tripped me up was the year/5,000/films/novels/other books. Can some one clarify step by step how to solve this question?

So I did about 8 games today and maybe 3-4 I made the dumbest mistakes and didn't catch them until AC just weren't working right for me. Each time I noticed that a rule would say something like P is in the same group as S. W and Y cannot be in the same group as G, but I'll actually write a completely different letter that's sometimes not even part of the game! Or I'm reading W but I'll write with complete confidence Y. Like wth!! I'm not even burned out. I took a break Saturday and Sunday. I noticed I kept doing the same crap so I was more focused on reading the rules the next time around. The rule said must and I swear I read can't, or vice versa!!! What in the world is happening here??!

Firstly, I am in Canada. Since there are some universities who have a deadline for November 1st, should I apply now or wait? The reason I ask this is because, I just wrote the October LSAT (It was my first time) and I am really not sure how I did. If I apply now then I either have to mention that they look at the marks for October LSAT or the December one. However I don't want to write December, if my October mark is fine and I don't want to write my October LSAT as the determiner if it's not that good. I know that most people write a second time, so should I play it safe and submit my application now with the December LSAT or should I wait till October 26-28 when I know my October results and then apply within those days dependent on the score I get. I am also worried that If I wait that long, my chances will be reduced due to rolling admission and applying so late in the cycle only a few days before the November 1st deadline. Please help me!

I just took the LSAT for the first time this past Saturday (10/3). I know I didn't do as well as I need to - or even as well as I was PTing leading up the test. The RC threw me off and I had a mini panick attack (I calmed down quickly). Also, the break threw me off my concentration.

With all that said, I'm feeling good about retesting in December! the first time experience should help me be more calm, and I feel like I know exactly where I need to focus my efforts.

I'm thinking of buying the LR, LG, and RC bundles for PT1-38 from CambridgeLSAT, but am curious what the thoughts are about the reliability of old PTs vs. newer? Of course, I'm gonna do the new ones, but I'm gonna save them for closer to December. Are PT's 1-38 worth the time and money?