I just received my June score and while respectable, it isn't high enough for HYS so I'll be retaking in September. My biggest issue with getting back to studying is that I feel I've fully understood the core curriculum and I've now also used up the later PTs. I also worked through the LG Bible and LSAT Trainer. Drilling and BRing was my preferred strategy the first time, but I'm a little lost on how I should go forward from here. Is re-doing PTs even helpful? Any advice would be hugely appreciated!

Since we had a great discussion on an El Nino question last time, I thought I’d look it up and learn more about it. Really interesting weather phenomenon actually, so thought I’d share what I found:

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Hey Guys!

I am retaking the LSAT in December, and I realized I really need to start with fundamental training. So, I am starting with logic games. Would any of you suggest Powerscore's logic games bible or should I just stick to 7Sage + the LSAT trainer + fool proof method of the Cambridge bundles for lg?

Thanks,

Kristen

OK I should finish the LR curriculum tonight. I am really feeling much better about my grasp of the concepts, however I am still falling for traps. So my question is, do you feel it would be beneficial for me to use old practice tests and drill each LR section. Here is what I am thinking. I work 40-60 hours a week. I have a very demanding job and I am right at the start of busy season, so my work week will start being closer to the 60 hours a week, so I am trying to cram as much studying as I can into my day. I do typically take a hour for lunch. So I was thinking... that I could take a timed LR section at lunch, then blind review it in the evenings when I get off work 1-2 times a week. Then score, obviously. Do you think this practice would work??? I was thinking about using the earlier tests... as I do have copies of those. Or should I just wait until I am 100% done with the curriculum. I do not plan on using tests 36+ as they are part of the curriculum, but I thought this might work as far as practice during the day, as we are what 10 weeks out, I know every little studying I can do during the day will be beneficial.

I really don't have an option of taking the December test. September is kinda my do or die test... simply because starting in Aug/Sept my work schedule gets frantic. I am actually taking the week off before the test to get zen and calm... because my job is about to get that insane, but that is a whole other topic for another day.

what do you guys think? I am trying to figure out how to get 30-45 minutes of studying in during my lunch break, because I just eat salad and take a walk, and normally that takes 20 mins of the 60 minutes I get.

Any tips or tricks you used would be awesome! thanks guys!

Random thought, but does anyone know what JYs score on the LSAT was? Curious to know

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I'm confused because I am in the some and most relationships lessons and the word "ALL" is being brought back from conditional logic. From my understanding "All" is a group 1 sufficient condition indicator in conditional logic. So for example All J are F = (J --> F) and to negate we take the contrapositive (/F --> /J) however in the some and most relationships lessons were being told to take "ALL" and negate it using "some not" which would bring (J --> F) into ( J some /F). So whats the difference between the two, when should we use one over the other I'm just kind of confused.

This is an answer choice:

C) not to be subsidized, it cannot be a profit-making institution

would this be diagrammed as: subsidized --> profit making institution

because of the double negative: not to be, it cannot

Please let me know!! Thanks in advance :D

This time around I'm not playing any games. This will be my third take at the LSAT and I'm not planning on taking any more after this (Please God, PLEASE). I've made my first step in the right direction by undergoing the 7sage curriculum but now I'm understanding the impact of a healthy lifestyle. I believe a sedentary lifestyle along with poor consumption habits will not help you get an amazing score so I'm deviating away from that.

Oh yeah that brings me to my original point: water intake! Check out this article I stumbled upon that shows what water does to you: https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/i-drank-a-gallon-of-water-a-day-for-30-days-water-gallon-challenge

I plan on drinking lots more water now that I see how amazing it works for your mental health. Anyone willing to follow suit? Also what do you like eating/drinking/exercising that has helped your LSAT performance?

Perhaps someone out there could help me out with this: on the LSAT, what exactly would it look like to "challenge the accuracy of the given evidence"? This phrase is commonly used as a wrong answer choice on Method of Reasoning questions and I've yet to see an instance where it is the correct answer. Many times it appears as a trap answer choice when an author challenges the context/cause/relevance of some evidence but isn't actually challenging the accuracy of the figure cited.

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I am recently taking LR from old PTs(1-20) in order to boost my score on this section. My maximum score is 159 but it fluctuates a lot. I sometimes scored 151 and stopped after scoring 156 on PT 46. I realized that my LR section score fluctuates between 60 - 70%. It seems that my LR hasn't improved much from 2007 test - which is 64% per section. I am not sure if my method is right. I've already went through 7sage package. Do I have to use LSAT trainer again? Or Cambridge LR bundle? BTW I've been writing down almost every time I BR my PTs.

My friends don't get my LSAT jokes and that makes me sad.

1. Correlation always = Causation

2. The more money you spend on a course the higher the score you will get always.

3. For the games never split into boards.

4. For RC read the questions first, for every passage. Then read all the passages.

5. Read the directions before the section very carefully! They change often!

6. Bring your cell phone to the test center in case they update the center location.

7. Use a different color highlighter for every paragraph on RC to stay organized.

8. The LSAT is a born skill. If you take it the first time and don't score in the 170's you can't ever score that high.

9.For LR let the answers choices guide you. Often times you can have no idea about the stimulus but the right answer choice will just POP out at you.

10. Always read the answer choices first

11. Bring a really loud timer to the testing location to make sure you know when time is up!

12. When you take a PT always look at your score right away. This will provide you vindication that you are actually smart.

13. Use a pen on the scantron so the scoring machine can read the bubbles clearly

14. If you ever do a live BR session and the group is unsure about an answer look it up and tell them. "No guys it's B I looked"

14.5 IF you see 3 A's in a row the next answer can't be A as it is too many.

15. If you get into trouble, panic. It can help you power through questions you normally would miss.

For "strengthen EXCEPT" questions, should I be eliminating anything that could possibly strengthen, despite having to make large assumptions to do so? Conversely, will the correct/except choice be fully irrelevant and/or weaken?

For example, in PT37.S2.Q20, I was 50/50 between B and D after I noticed that B was talking about oxygen and not oxygenated blood, but I completely fell for D...

I initially overlooked B after making the assumption that the capacity to store oxygen in some part of the body could possibly strengthen the hypothesis that seals could store oxygenated blood in spleens for long dives.

Granted, D distinguishes some property of seals from other aquatic mammals that don't dive long, but isn't it a bit of a stretch to assume that larger has something to do with storing more oxygenated blood? Heck, having a larger spleen could just be a result of being a big animal.

Thanks.

Which question types is the some and most relationships lessons important for?

How do law schools view "unique" UG majors? I'm coming from a science background (materials engineering to be specific) and I'm wondering if my background will give me an advantage, disadvantage, or not really matter when applying for law schools.

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Hi guys,

I'm sure this has already been discussed on 7sage.. however, I have been out of the 7sage loop for a couple of months and am not too sure where to find this, if that is the case.

I'm wondering.. are there any advantages (or disadvantages) for Sept. test-takers v. Dec. in regards to the admission process? I'm debating between the two for consideration to law school Sept. 2017. Obviously, Dec. would be favourable due to the additional study time, but if Sept. is advantageous for e.g. early admissions, more spots available etc., I would definitely consider this.

Any advice and/or information is welcomed and appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Maxine

In the last few weeks, I have hit the ground running so to speak.I've read the LGB and LRB religiously and have seen improvements. The linear games have become like second nature for me. The other games are a work in progress. I'm currently posting around 18/23 in the sample LG sections I have (19 on my PT today). Not where I want to be, grouping games are killing me right now. LR is moving a bit slower, I'm averaging a mere 66% on Must Be True questions (I've put most of my efforts into those types of LR questions) The other day, I did about 50 questions in my workbook and got 39 of them correct (not exactly where I want to be but I was feeling okay). Today I did about 70 from my Kaplan book and only answered 46 of them correct. My irritation caused me to rush into a PT where I only scored a 158 (36 on both sections combined). RC went horrid, with a 15, though I haven't studied RC questions at all. Exam day is in 10 weeks. I've put about 30 hours a week into studying for the LSAT and I don't want to burn myself out but I feel kind unaccomplished. Have I hit a wall?

I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this, but is the length of each silent video (normally 1:24) the target time that you would ideally need to spend on a question?

I read the definition, and I understand what it is. But is the "score band" information used by law schools for admissions purposes or by anyone for any purposes? paging @"Nicole Hopkins" and @Pacifico

Background: I used to be super active on 7sage in 2015 as I was gearing up for the June 2015 LSAT. I took a year long hiatus after I dropped 10 points from my PT average on the June 2015 LSAT and have only recently started studying again.

Today, I finally decided to see what exactly went wrong on the June 2015 test and just finished blind reviewing it (an honest blind review, not like, oh I guessed "D" here so I know that one's wrong so of A, B, C and E, which one is right). Omg guys I'm so mad at myself. If I hadn't second guessed my logic and shed all my good habits (like consistently diagramming the argument core and not getting frightened when my pre-phrase didn't match my the answer choices after the first round), I could have scored 9 FREAKING POINTS better -- that's the difference between my actual 162 and a possible 171.

I just wanted to share this to reiterate how important positive psychology and mindset is on game day (coming from someone who clearly could not stay mentally positive during the test).

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Hi everyone,

Was hoping to get some advice. I'm planning on writing the LSAT in September. I wanted to register today and starting getting second thoughts. I am currently scoring in the low 160 range. I think if I scored a 160, I could potentially get into the school I wanted here in Canada. That being said, I've seen a lot of mentions of the "test day penalty", and I don't want to risk that 160 going down due to test day nerves. I decided the best way to avoid that would be to try to consistently break the 165 barrier.

I am currently writing about 2-3 prep-tests a week and spending a fair amount of time on blind review. I guess my question is, what are the odds that I'm able to bring my score up by 5+ points by September? And does anyone have any suggestions for what I should be spending my time on?

My best section is logic games where I usually average -2, Reading Comprehension I'm not too worried about, and Logical Reasoning is definitely my worst; specifically necessary & sufficient assumptions according to analytics.

Would really appreciate any personal experience stories and advice.

For those retakers who went from a 160 score into the 170s, how did you define drill? I do feel as though drilling is different depending on the band of scores one is scoring in (e.g., drilling in the 150s typically means still figuring out the lack of fundamentals while drilling in the 170s may look like ________).

- Do you define it as timed sections?

- Do you define it as Cambridge drill packets (for those that are lucky enough to still have those)?

- Do you define it as re-doing questions that you previously missed?

- [insert other option]