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Last comment thursday, jun 30 2016

Advice for Re-takers?

I didn't reach my goal on the June test, and will need to rewrite in September. I am wondering if any of you who rewrote can give me some advice on the best way to start studying for the upcoming test. Before June, I was PT-ing right within the range of what I needed to score (170+), but I dropped the ball on test day (166). I'm assuming my drop was related to anxiety, but some of my scores took a hit in the weeks/days leading up to the test as well. I can't decide if I should revisit the curriculum, or just pick up where I left off and keep PT/BR-ing. Or maybe I should supplement 7sage with other materials.

This is a very subjective question and I'm sure the answer varies depending on the individual. That being said, I would love to hear how you all handled the rewrite.

Thanks!

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I have been doing Blind Review and I understand it helps to figure out the correct answers on your own before looking at the answers but why is it helpful in general? My actual scores vs my blind review scores are so different. My BR falls in the 167 range while my actual score is in the 150s. BR is not an accurate view of what you can accomplish on the LSAT is it?

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I was aiming for 164 this go around and ended up with a 159 which was about my average on my diagnostics. I'm aiming for a scholarship to Florida State University Law. Is a 164 a high enough goal? Any suggestions for how to study in order to improve my score? RC is always my worst section.

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Hey everyone,

To be honest, I don't exactly know where to begin, so I'll try my best. To start, 7Sage is the best LSAT prep company on this planet for multiple reasons.

First, the people, community, forums, mentors, sages, tutors--EVERYONE--is awesome. On many occasions, I posted questions in the forums, and every time, I received help that was extremely valuable to my prep. The community here is simply the greatest asset for scoring well on the LSAT.

Second, the 7Sage lessons are fantastic. I graduated college with zero background in philosophy and zero background in logic; I started the lessons pretty much with no fundamental understanding of what it means to weaken or strengthen an argument. I didn't know what a sufficient or necessary assumption was (in all honesty, I thought they were the same thing). I had to re-watch many lessons; redo many drill sets; and then do them again! The curriculum was essential for me to grasp the basic fundamentals. Even during my PT stage, watching video explanations for LR, RC, and games were key to improvement. I tried my best to imitate the skills that I saw on these excellent videos.

Third, and certainly not least, @"J.Y. Ping" is the most generous person I've ever met. I became a mentor around September/October of 2015, and around that time, JY emailed me asking me if I was interested in tutoring. Hell yes I was! Who wouldn't want to talk to the "so what?" video guy, himself? We talked for two hours every Wednesday night for about 8 months, and he never charged a dime. Over that time, I not only learned a lot, but I made a great friend. I'm not really sure how to repay him, but I will try somehow.

In short, thanks to everyone at 7Sage; earning my score wouldn't be possible without this site.

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Last comment wednesday, jun 29 2016

Starter Pack Success?

I barely see anyone on here with the Starter pack except maybe one or two of us lol. How much of a disadvantage am I putting myself under compared to even a premium course? I am enjoying my experience thus far and my diagnostic was in the 140s. Level-headed thoughts, please? Anyone on here successfully make their way to 165+ with the Starter course?

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Dear Sir,

Today I am on problem set 3-MSS- and encountered a problem during my blank review.

If you can, please check out the question: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-1-question-12/

But in general, the question goes:

cotton in cloth is straightened artfully. Natural cotton is curled so when washed under high temperature, it shrinks (because it is currently in straightened form and heat triggers it back to its natural state). And the other kind of material-poly-doesn't shrink.

And here comes the correct answer's inference: poly material is straight in its natural state.

When I was answering the question I eliminated all of them, and for the last one I wrote: "the premise does not give any support for the state of the poly material's natural state", and I mean how can you do such a inference?

Or is it that for the fewest question, there is the possibility that there may be a time when you can only work a problem by elimination?

Thoughts?

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Last comment wednesday, jun 29 2016

New to 7sage

Hey everyone!!

Just looking for some general tips about 7sage! What is the most helpful feature? What should I definitely use? I'll be taking the LSAT in October

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Dear Sir,

Here is my question: please take a look at the statement above. Of the 3rd sentence, begins with "Many important...", do you consider the sentence a minor conclusion or a major premise or a rephrase of the (major) conclusion?

And a general question, does the statement, "A major premise" is always a sub-conclusion" stand? if not, can you please explain, thanks.

Admin edit: Please do not post full questions! You can get in trouble with LSAC.

• Conclusion: Such position ignores the lessons of experience Referential phrase “such position” referring to the, “Some legislators refuse to commit public funds for new scientific research if they cannot be assured that the research will contribute to the public welfare”.

Minor conclusion/major premise/Rephrase of major conclusion: Many important contributions to the public welfare that resulted from scientific research were never predicted as potential outcomes of that research.

• Minor premise/citing example: Suppose that a scientist in the early twentieth century had applied for public funds to study molds: who would have predicted that such research would lead to the discovery of antibiotics—one of the greatest contribution ever made to the public welfare.

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Last comment wednesday, jun 29 2016

Crashed and burned

So I did much worse than I thought I would on the June LSAT, like worse than all my pt's. Where do I go from here? Just redo the whole curriculum? Has this happened to anyone else? Not feeling great although I know I should have given myself more time.

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I'll be watching Legally Blonde tonight - anyone else?? Fun fact that they actually study with the infamous record store LG ha!

Can't thank 7Sage enough for getting me to this point and getting in my ideal score range! Congrats to everyone else who got their scores today!!

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Hey All -

Wanted to know if anyone has best practices or strategies for working in study groups or with study buddies?

- Did you collaborate on a firm plan before jumping in?

- study session recommendations?

- wise to have focused section? For ex. A meeting for LR then separate meeting for LG and so on.

- What happens if one begins to make greater gains? Should you cease studying together?

Any best practice strategies would be super helpful and appreciated. Feel free to mention any items that come to mind that I may not have explicitly listed.

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Hello everyone!!

So, I'm seeing the news that everyone is receiving their June 2016 scores and I just wanted to say congratulations!! You've worked hard and deserve the scores you have all received! :)

That being said, I have been around on the 7Sage forums for several weeks now, and I am just very motivated to sign up for the Ultimate course. I have been encouraged and motivated by those of you (nearly everyone) who say that 7Sage has done wonders for you! I am aware that there is some slight bias in there somewhere, but I have used the free Logic Games explanations and I must say that my games' score improved immensely, I can only hope that the other two sections will see similar improvements!

Basically, this is just a short post to give praise to 7Sage and its tutors. Thank you for all you've done and continue to do for all of us and I am extremely eager to start (again) my LSAT journey with you all!

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Last comment tuesday, jun 28 2016

June LSAT 2016 Retake

Hi guys,

I was wondering how and when I should review the exam that we just got back. I scored below my average and I'm definitely thinking of retaking. Should I just retake the June 2016 exam as a practice test again into the future before actually doing blind review? Or should I just break down my score by question types on the LR and RC? Kinda confused on how to go about this.

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Last comment tuesday, jun 28 2016

Knowledge for dummies?

Hi all. Does anyone have any tips on how to "broaden" our knowledge in a short couple of months in general knowledge of science, law etc...to improve better understanding in RC? I remember JY saying in a comment that having "broad" knowledge definitely helps. I know I can't suddenly become an expert, but does anyone have any experience to share? I literally thought about reading something like "Science of Dummies" or "100 things you should know about basic of law" - OK i made those up but you get my drift. THANKS!!!

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Does anyone have a hint, clue, inkling, feeling and/or knowledge of when grey/gray day will commence?

[Admin title edit: Don't want folks to get the wrong idea about what this thread is about. We will make an official announcement as soon as we know.]

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I just got my LSAT score. My UGPA is between Harvard's 25/50 and my LSAT score was 170. Now I'm very worried about my chances at Harvard. If I were American, I would be an AA male. But since I am not American I don't know how much of a boost I'll get. My goal is patent law and I am in the last year of a Stem PhD. Should I prep for September or should I take my chances with 170? Oh men. The curve was -11. Why couldn't it be -13?

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Hi Everyone!

I've been doing a lot of work recently with memorizing valid inferences that can be made from conditional and inter-sectional statements. I find that when I have a few extra minutes during blind review, I have no issue drawing the correct inferences. Unfortunately, during my practice tests I am unable to do the same. Guessing this means I need more timed practice. I was wondering if anyone had gathered a practice set of questions similar to PT 43, Section 3, Question 9, beginning "Most lecturers"? I've noticed mapping isn't strictly limited to most strongly supported questions/inference questions. Perhaps there is a filter I didn't know about in the question bank that would help me isolate more questions like these (specifically ones that incorporate diagramming).

Would greatly appreciate any/all advice or help.

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Not all X are Y. Is this translated as X some (not)Y? Also, is Not all X are Y equivalent to X some Y? For the latter question, I know in English in certain contexts, the statement "not all" of something implies "some are."

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Well, so much for plan A.

Plan B: BR until we can answer them.

Saturday, June 25th at 8PM ET: PT 53

Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/219480381

Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

You can also dial in to the BR call by using your phone.

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Access Code: 219-480-381

And if you’d like to see the full schedule, here it is: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=7sage.com_ft05lsm54j4ec1s6kj1d1bbpv0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Chicago

Note:

  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Before I can get into my actual concern, I have to setup a sort of lengthy background story, so you lovely person taking your wonderful time to read this post could grasp a better understanding of my concern. :D :O :/

    So a week before this hectic spring semester ended, my school was offering our very first LSAT discussion panel hosted by Princeton Review. I was immediately drawn to the event because I thought, "hey. LSAT. Me likey" and because I was in serious need of guidance for the LSAT. Also a quick note, I had already set myself up for a mediocre attitude towards preparing for the LSAT because students I have spoken to prior seemed content with their scores in the 150's and told me that a condensed 3 months studying would be sufficient. I am currently a 20-year-old senior with a 3.7 GPA (salty about my GPA because I could have done better :P) who is scheduled to graduate May 2017.

    Anyways back to the story, once the event finally rolls around, the PR marketing guy, who seems extremely chill and intelligent, basically tells me that LSAT is my life, and I should have been preparing for it yesterday. My stomach dropped at this point because I was appalled at how naive I was to waste precious LSAT studying time. The PR marketing guy then tells me that once I have finished taking my finals that I would need to register for the September LSAT immediately so my scores could be sent in with my law school applications to be accepted in time for fall 2017. Once I left the event, I felt both under pressure and motivated to start the LSAT journey. So of course once the semester ended, and I prolonged my LSAT journey about a week and a half due to physical and mental exhaustion, I began freaking out. The PR guy's voice was lingering in my head about how I needed to register and secure my seat ASAP and because of this roadblock I could not function properly. So I register and pay for the September 2016 LSAT to relieve myself of this lingering pressure then I heavily did some research on which LSAT study program I should invest in, and there I was, feeling great about everything. However, after reading multiple discussions in this LSAT program, I realize that I may have shorted myself studying time, and the pressure is back on.

    I also now realize that I have an option to pay a fee to reschedule from taking the test in late September to December. While rescheduling to give myself more studying time, which I am unsure if I truly need it, I feel as though I may do poorly because of the exhaustion that might come from fall semester. I am taking 5 classes next semester with a 10 hour internship, which counts as one of those 5 classes, and I work 25 hours a week at night. Am I safe for taking the LSAT in September (I technically started studying last month), or should I try and reschedule for December, or am I just doomed for mediocrity?

    Thank you for reading, I look forward to your responses! :-)

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