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BR Group!!!! PT 44!

Talk to your heart’s content at Group BR

Saturday, Feb 5th at 8PM ET: PT44

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    Real Sections

    LG:

    - Pillows and Mirrors

    - Madrid, Paris, and London / Cities

    - Volunteers

    - Photographs of Authors / Bookstore

    RC:

    - Shrubs & Bushes

    - Urban Smart Growth / Suburban Sprawl

    - Employees Rights / Workplace Ethics

    - Female Sculptor

    LR:

    - Moths / Bats / Tweek Tweek Sound

    - Physics / Psychology

    - Intention Pollution

    - Politican

    - High Cholesterol

    - Vital Interests

    - Nests / Fleas

    - Broca Area / Bilinguals

    - Altruistic Behavior / Monkeys

    - Redefining Church

    - Bacteria Fungi

    - Wolves and Wolf Subspecies

    - Machine with blue/green light

    - Outdoors vs. Treadmill

    - Intentionally creating art

    - Electronic toll systems

    - Burglars with initials G and S

    - Cellphone insurance deductible

    - Laughter and social bonding

    - Desires and beliefs

    - Absinthe

    - Neanderthals' food

    - Expanding downtown

    - Damming a river

    - Gala / Music Awards

    - Skin Disorder / Cancer

    Experimental Sections:

    LG:

    - Via Numbers

    - FGH (Field/Hydro/Geo) / Professors

    - 8 Floors a Building

    - France, Italy, Switzerland

    - Horse Racing

    - Cabinets

    - Tour of Homes

    - Streets Paved

    RC:

    - Money and Happiness

    - Jazz and Latin Music

    - Volcanoes

    - Problem of Evasion

    - Water on Mars

    - European politics / Economics

    LR:

    - Life in the solar system

    - First-year business students / Dresses and Rhinestones

    [This thread is closed for discussion. Official post Feb. LSAT discussion here: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6352/official-feb-lsat-discussion-thread]

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    I was pretty burnt out by the date of the December exam. I didn't do my best, and now I'm wondering if I should just cancel my registration for tomorrow and do what I'm sure will be a better job in June for the next enrollment cycle, when I'll have my apps in at a better date also. But then, I'm "old" (30+ crowd) and waiting another year seems pretty severe. If I were 25, I'd definitely just retake in June while prepared to the best of my abilities. Or should I just roll the dice tomorrow and hope for a better score, even after a 2 month hiatus? Any advice is appreciated.

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    The snack discussion made me laugh about my own bag... it was STUFFED! But I was not worried about forgetting anything. It was rather funny seeing how people utilized their bags at the testing center. It seemed most guys had a drink, pencils and a cliff bar (plus wallet and keys) whereas the girls seemed to have much fuller bags.

    This was mine....

    Contents:

    Inhaler (with the large tube) PS they let me keep this on the desk

    5 pencils

    1 White eraser

    Tissues

    Pencil Sharpener

    Ice Pack

    Water Bottle

    Starbucks Refresher serving

    A hard boiled egg in a little container

    A Costco Jiffy snack pack (peanut butter, celery, carrot and apple slices)

    A Coconut granola bar

    4 energy gummy vitamins

    Car Key

    ID

    LSAT Ticket

    I think that was all... haha....

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    My back hurts!

    Okay, I am in need of some advice that might sound strange to some. So, I'm not exactly a small person, in fact I'm six feet eight inches tall so I don't exactly fit into a lot of things very well. Mainly, the desks in a classroom. I find when I do some timed PTs I am slumped way over in my seat, and after about three sections my back starts screaming at me. It got to the point last Friday that I had to stop my test and stand up for a minute to loosen up and stretch. Are there are other 7sagers who have this problem? I am worried because on test day I know I will not be able to pause my exam like a video game. My back really hurts after about two sections and it takes away from my concentration. This is making me feel like an old man at the ripe age of 23. Thoughts?

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    After a 2 month break (and a more recent week-long trip which was extended thanks to a winter storm), I am fully committing myself to study for the LSAT again. I took the December exam and did absolutely horrible, a score that I'm legitimately embarrassed to reveal, a score that I KNOW is not indicative of what I am capable of scoring. I didn't even bother applying anywhere because what the hell was the point... I basically took a 2 month hiatus from LSAT/TLS/7sage. I actually feel refreshed and looking forward to study for this S.O.B again. The positive thing about already taking it is that I know what DIDN'T work: taking 3 PT's a week, followed by a crappy BR session afterwards... not learning from mistakes on PTs... barely drilling... barely exercising and not relieving stress/anxiety... barely working in order to study (I seriously took 1.5 months off prior to my exam)... not mimicking test-day as well as I thought did... I can go on and on, unfortunately.....

    I have 10 fresh PTs (plus whatever most recent PTs are available that I'll purchase which will bring the total to about 14 or 15, right?). I'm really thinking about re-taking in October because I honestly don't feel that June is enough time for ME. I believe that October will allow me to balance LSAT / Life / Small Vacations / Work... June feels rushed to me.

    I plan to take a PT every other week in the exact room I took the actual exam, followed by BR and drilling, something I didn't really do despite having the cambridge bundle! I've been going to the gym since Jan 1st (new year, new me watch out watch out haha), gotten into a routine and whatnot. Also plan to work more than I did before (work at my family's business, so hours are lenient which is how I took 1.5 months off as previously mentioned).

    How should I go about getting things back into motion, getting the juices flowing?

    Do you feel that waiting til October is worse than taking in June?

    I'm starting again on Monday the 8th.

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    Last comment saturday, feb 06 2016

    LSAT scores

    I took my first LSAT 2 years ago in June and then again over a year ago in October. I got in the low 150s both times but I didn't put in enough studying that I should have. I've been working a full time bartending job so studying has been hard. I took almost two years off because I ran into some personal issues with the man I was living with. I've been studying full time whenever I'm not working using the ultimate 7sage package. My score has definitely improved. I'm hoping to use my 3rd try in June, but I was wondering since it has been almost two years, will I technically have another try after those two years are up? I'm hoping not to take it again, but I'm also curious if I can use more attempts how bad does that look with law school applications?

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    Snacks for test day

    I am taking the February 6th LSAT (tomorrow) and wanted to hear some input on what the best snacks are for test day. Remember, it has to fit in the 1 gallon ziploc bag along with all of your other items like pencils, erasers, wallet, keys, 20 oz plastic drink, etc. Thanks for your input!

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    For mastering the logic games, from what I've gathered, it's suggested to do JY's method for each game by watching the videos and repeating the inferences on blank copies until a firm understanding of each game is reached. However, in doing so won't my scores be affected on my PTs leading up to the test because I will have already seen the games and know how to do them? I'm worried that on the one hand this wouldn't give me a good indication of where my score would really be than if I hadn't previously seen the games, but I'm also worried that if I wait to drill on those games until after I've taken the PTs to which they belong I won't have enough time since it will be closer to the test date at that point.

    Hypothetically speaking, if I plan to take PTs 41- the most recently available one (giving me 30+ PTs), should I drill those games before taking the PTs or wait until I take them?

    What's the suggested practice for approaching this? I'm definitely aiming for a near perfect score on the games section come June and just want to make sure that whatever prep I do is as effective as it can be.

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    Last comment saturday, feb 06 2016

    The Final Fistbump

    Hey you.

    You taking the LSAT tomorrow?

    Come back here. You're taking it, aren't you?

    Ok. Me too.

    How ya feelin'?

    I know that feel.

    Here's how it's gonna go.

    1) LG's gonna throw a thing at you that you're like—wait, what? OH. Please. That's nothing. LOL. Really LG, nice try on that twist there. Nice try.

    This is you when LG tries to throw a twist:

    2) RC's gonna have some weird subject matter. But we don't change the way we read based on subject matter, do we? No. We don't. We know all RC is the same damn cookie cutter business and that we're always reading for reasoning structure.

    We know RC is all like this:

    So we are gonna devour RC like this:

    We're gonna get about ankle-deep in a couple of time sink questions. WE WILL NOT give in to timesink temptations. We will remember that no one RC question is worth more than a minute of our time.

    But we're gonna see that we're in the mud and we're gonna get the hell outta there and skip-skip-skip away. When in doubt ...

    3) LR's might feel kinda weird at first. Time warp-y. Trippy. You might feel like a couple of the first few questions are hard (and they might actually be hard questions).

    At first with LR you might feel like this:

    But then you're gonna summon the Huntress.

    Oh shit.

    She's HERE.

    I think you know what this means for LR. LR's gonna get taken down hard. Like, 25-in-25 hard. Sitting around with nothing to DO for 3 minutes hard.

    Once the Huntress is summoned, she is on the hunt. Here is what the Huntress does with her prey.

    Are you the Huntress?

    I SAID ARE YOU THE HUNTRESS.

    YES YOU ARE.

    NOW GO CRUSH THIS TEST.

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    Right after I transfer all the rules into Lawgic I go straight to the first question. My reasoning:

    1. I am less likely to make mistakes because my paper is not written on yet.

    2. When I split I like to represent my rules on my boards like JY and at times I would forget what the rule was.

    3. Doing question one first is my insurance policy. If I take 3 minutes to split my boards and go to question one only to find I misread a rule I wasted all that time splitting on boards that aren't real.

    Thoughts?

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    Test Center

    Okay, so my test center is on a local university campus. I went today to make sure I could find the building and what not. My ticket doesn't say a room number or anything. I may be over thinking this out of nerves.. But will it just be obvious where to go once I am in the building?

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    Last comment friday, feb 05 2016

    PT Scores Dropping

    Hi 7Sagers!

    I am scheduled to take the February administration and have a problem. (Don't we all?) For weeks, I've been hitting my target score range (157-160). However, the last two PT's I've taken (74 & 75) have been downhill for me. 150 & 153. (I haven't changed my diet or exercise routines since I was achieving my desired scores). I'm not sure how to handle this/react to it, as the exam is less than two weeks away and the last thing I want to do is postpone taking the exam since I want to apply for Fall admission.

    Thanks everyone!

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    Last comment friday, feb 05 2016

    Withdraw

    Question: I'm about to withdraw from the February LSAT so as to take it in June instead, but I just want to make sure that a withdrawal doesn't count as a take! I've already taken it two times and (even though I'm pretty sure it doesn't count) just want to be one the safe side. Also- you just withdraw on the lsac website right?

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    Last comment friday, feb 05 2016

    Visiting Schools

    Hi everyone,

    For those of you who have already submitted their applications, I have a quick question. I'm strongly considering visiting my top choices in person (two I'm waiting to hear back from and two I've been waitlisted at). If I decide to do this, what's the protocol for a campus visit? I was already planning taking a campus tour and sitting in on some classes. On TLS, Mike Spivey also recommended visiting the admissions office. If I do that, what do I say to an admissions officer? What kind of questions should I ask? What should I say/not say? Any advice from you guys would be enormously appreciated, I'm feeling a bit lost during this portion of the application process. Studying for the LSAT was so much more straightforward lol.

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    Is there anyway we can add a grader to the problem set sections? This way after the course is completed I can view my overall percentage of where I missed the most and work accordingly. Would also be nice to revisit these problems mixed up to truly see if I have understood the concepts without knowing the type of problem I am working on.

    Thanks

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