I’m trying to calm my nerves before my first LSAT which is coming up in less than 10 days. I’m scoring in the low 160s but I really would like to improve and break the 170 mark. Is that possible (or rather what is the possibility) given I only have a week left or should I not take the LSAT now and take it when I am more fully prepared in 4 months (Feb 2016, can't do Dec)?

I've only done 20 PTs and have 10 of the most recent prep tests (after 50) left and most of old ones untouched. I studied slowly but steadily over the summer to get used to the LSAT and started increasing the frequency of PTs taken so that starting September I could do at least 3-4 per week full timed PTs, experimental and writing.

Should I use all the new tests now or save them and take the later LSAT? I also didn't find out about the BR method until now and I feel like I've wasted precious PTs. I also just bought copies of the Powerscore books which I plan to go through pretty much fully in the next 3-6 days. My plan is to do 1-2 solid days of games until I can perfect them (currently get 1-5 wrong), categorize my argument trouble areas and fix them, and figure out something for reading comprehension using the books and practice tests.

I also still have 1 year before I apply to law schools, my GPA is almost a 3.8 and likely will be 3.8 by the time I apply.

Any advice, recommendations, etc. would be very much appreciated!

Currently PT-ing in the 161-164 range. Have been here for a while.

My goal is to take the test in Dec. I plan to crack 170.

I'm not asking if it's possible. I figure everyone is different. Rather, my question is if anyone has witnessed a 6-8 point bump within two months of rigorous studying.

Also. Any and all words of wisdom are welcome.

I'm attending a law school forum this Saturday and I'm not sure what kind of questions I should be specifically asking? I would like to know about the costs and financial aid but when it comes down to specific programs they may offer I'm not even sure which programs I should be looking for. Thoughts are greatly appreciated!

Moving from bracket to bracket (140 to 150 to 160 to 170...)?

Consensus on the board is curriculum+BR+management of your body/mind+don't burnout.

Is there an overall mindset you need to have to make the gains you want?

Obviously not being down and negative about your scores, keeping a resilient face would seem to be something to keep in mind. But has anyone come across something that has helped their scores outside of actually practicing the material?

Guys I'm very confused. In today's lsac email it sounds like 2 plus a picture. But on the ticket it says one. I only have one so the sooner I find out the better (if not tomorrow I'll have to get a state id or soemthign cuz it's too late for passport)

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I understand that this is probably a dumb question but I keep having difficulties with flaw questions that have answers that "confuse necessary and sufficient conditions."

This is what I understand so far:

If I eat an apple, I will be healthy.

So eating an apple is a sufficient condition to being healthy since I can be healthy through other ways as well. It doesn't have to necessarily be by eating an apple.

I just know that if I eat an apple, I will definitely be healthy. To reiterate, being healthy doesn't necessarily have to do anything with eating an apple.

So if I say:

1. if I eat an apple, I will be healthy

2. I am healthy

3. I ate an apple

Is that confusing necessary for sufficient? Which flaw is this?

Can I have an example of both types of confusions (confusing necessary for sufficient / sufficient for necessary)?

Thank you!

I emailed him a couple times at studentservices@7sage.com. He never answers.

I tend to miss these "fill in the blank" miscellaneous questions. I tend to categorize them as MSS or MP questions. Since that isn't really working (easily this question type is my lowest % according to the analytics) does anyone have any ideas about how to tackle these? The curriculum just had some listed questions, but no lesson about them.

For this question, during the timed exam and during BR, I thought all of the choices were equally awful (except for A, which was even more awful), so I pretty much randomly chose between B-E. Can someone justify B and eliminate the other answers? B seems pretty bad to me. It states that Stay in Power--->Victorious party must address the disagreements. However, the passage says they ignore their disagreements and that they come forward after victory. But, the passage (to me) doesn't imply that unaddressed disagreements trigger an overthrow. Sure, the passage starts by stating that the factions differ as much in ideology as the dominant party, but it doesn't create a sufficiency arrow for overthrowing that party (I think). Idk, this question had me spinning my wheels on the exam, and now I am spinning my wheels on it during BR.

hey can i get a quick list of some in/out games. having issues need some practice thanks. :)

I feel BURNT OUT. I literally feel like crying every single time I look at a question and I can't focus to save my life.

BUT, I also suffer from the syndrome of "not being able to stop because stopping means losing precious time before October 3".

So. Someone just tell me to stop.

Kthanks.

Sincerely,

emotionalandtiredanddrainedandseekingvalidationthatitsoktofeelthisway

Under the influence of today's computer-oriented culture, publishing for children has taken on a flashy new look that emphasizes illustrations and graphic design; the resulting lack of substance leads to books that are short-lived items covering mainly trendy subjects. The changes also include more humorous content, simplification of difficult material, and a narrower focus on specific topics.

Q. Which one of the following is most strongly supported by the information above?

A. The inclusion of humorous material and a narrower focus detract from the substance of a children's book.

B. The substance of a children's book is important to its longevity.

C. Children of the conputer generation cannot concentrate on long, unbroken sections of prose.

D. Children judge books primarily on the basis of graphic design.

E. The lack of substance of a children's book is unlikely to be important to its popularity.

I chose E and the right answer is B.

I cannot figure out why B is the right answer..

I understand that everybody moves at their own pace and that everyone's goals are different but does anyone know how long the course is supposed to take you to get through? I've started 2 weeks ago and I'm almost 55% through the material as it is but I'm very concerned with not retaining the material by rushing through to try to get to take tests. I've studied a little bit with other methods before I found 7sage but I'm just curious how long it took other people to go through the material before they start really taking prep tests. I took 2 tests before I found 7sage, the highest was 162, and I plan on taking at least 30 before December because I understand that taking tests and BR are really where you see your big gains. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated and good luck to everyone studying!

Correct me if I am wrong in my explanation.

PT29 S4 Q03

The kind of question this is: Most Strongly supported Question

Paraphrased question: PE should teach people to pursue healthy active lifestyle when they are older, but the focus on competitive sports in most schools discourages less competitive students to turn away from sports. Having learned to think of themselves as unathletic, they do not exercise enough to stay healthy.

What I am looking for: Something that has to do with PE and how it needs to change or upgrade.

Answer A: Yes, this backs up the passage. Non-competitive sports would deal with the less competitive students in helping them to see sports in positive way.

Answer B: No, the passage does not talk about how competition turns most students away from sports. It talks specifically about less competitive students and their motivation to continue with sports to stay healthy and how they see themselves.

Answer C: No, passage does not talk about the habits and talents of people and how motivated they are to exercise regularly.

Answer D: No, this might be true, but the passage focuses on less competitive students and how to encourage them to exercise.

Answer E: No, the passage is about encouraging less competitive students to exercise, and not about teaching them about the dangers sedentary lifestyles. They may or may not already know the dangers; we don’t have that information. They are discouraged to exercise because they are less competitive students pushed into competitive sports, and not because they don’t know about the dangers of a sedentary lifestyle.

Hello Everyone. I plan on taking the October LSAT but I do not feel confident at all. I am also taking the December LSAT as a backup option. I read so many articles about both of these exams and when people are applying. For those who plan on going to Law School Fall 2016, which LSAT are you taking? Do you feel as though there is a harder deadline to meet for the December exam?

Regarding *PT28 S3 Q04*

The question reads: "Each of the following is supported by the information above except:"

Can someone explain why "A" is the right answer. It sounds like the passage/"information above" supports this answer choice by saying "Raising the humidity of a room protects... computers from damage cause by excessively dry air." Based on that information, it seems like the passage is saying that "Humidity can be bad for computers." But, that is not supposed to be the case. I wrongly chose "C" because I thought passage does not say how dry air feels compared to humid air of the same temperature. I did not see a comparison made.

Let me know :)

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Hey everyone,

If you're anything like I was, when you're studying and you get frustrated, you might ask yourself... What's the point of this stupid test anyways?

Well.. being in my second week of 1L right now, I feel compelled to come back to these forums and tell you. Please keep in mind as you read this, these are just my opinions, I am sure there are others.

1. Reading Comprehension:

There are two key reasons why RC is so important. First, I am only in my second week and I have probably read about 500+ pages of mandatory readings, and much more supplementary readings to try and get a better understanding of some concepts. So, the point is if you want any chance of keeping up with the work load, you must be able to read AND retain at least somewhat quickly. Second, most of my readings have been cases that involve reading what some judge (or more) had to say about a case. This includes:

What they see the issue as (legal issue)

What they think should be the resolution

Why and how they came to this resolution

You are essentially reading a judges thoughts splattered on a page. It is up to you to sift through it to find the important stuff. Sometimes judges write clear and its not so difficult to follow. However, they are experts in a complex industry, which means their vocabulary can be intense at times (especially when you don't have a good grasp on this new language or what the lingo is)

2. Logical Reasoning

I want to move to LR now because it overlaps with what I was going to say with the rest of RC. Like I was saying you are reading these dense complex passages. Why do you need LR?... because the entire point of you reading these cases and judgments is to figure out what the main point is (ratio decidendi). But, it doesn't stop there... you also need the premises the judge made to get to that conclusion! And the rest is just filler or side notes or some random babbling that might interesting to read but doesn't really matter to what you need for class.

So now you've read (quickly)... got the main point.. got the judges reasoning... you're all set right? --- NO!

Now you are going to go to class and have a professor ask you a ton of questions. Sometimes they might ask you to just simply state something that has happened or was said. But, other times they might ask your opinion. Well how can you give that if you aren't ARMED with LSAT skills? By identifying what flaws may have been made or why an argument was strong or weak, you are now capable of telling the prof what your opinion is.

See.. it all kind of starts to make sense? Sort of?...

3. Logic Games.

Unfortunately I have nothing for these. I guess they are just some section they included to add an element of "fun" to the test. I don't know.

Key point is, YES there is absolutely some overarching goal of the LSAT! I don't know if I believe that a higher score necessarily means better student (obviously higher score might correlate to more work which might mean stronger student). But, I can definitely say that there is a reason the LSAT is important beyond being a measure of determining who should be accepted at a school. It prepares you for the workload (at least in some sense) that you will be faced with if you are accepted! You will need to put in the hours, just like the LSAT... from Day 1! You will need to read long boring passages and see what a judge is thinking, why they are thinking, and what the heck the point is of even reading what they think!

Look at the LSAT as preliminary training for what you about to embark on! Because as a "fresh" 1L student, I can say it definitely doesn't get easier! It's all part of the plan! So train hard, worry less, and good luck all!

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**Final Week for Oct Test**

BR Groups, Week of September 15th: THURSDAY (PT72), Sat (PT73)

Ladies. Gentlemen. LSAT family.

We've been training.

Mind and body. Knowledge and habits.

Victory is upon us.

Join us for the final week of Blind Review groups for the October Exam.

Wednesday, September 23rd at 7PM ET: PT74

Bittersweet.

LSATurday, September 26th at 7PM ET: PT75

Our last LSATurday.

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Hi All,

As October 3rd approaches, I've been pondering my fate quite a bit (this will be my second crack at the LSAT since taking it for the first time in 2013).

One of my "values" or "goals" in life is to be relatively location independent. One of the reasons is because my partner is a scientist and has slimmer job prospects throughout the world compared to me [in my current profession in allied health].

So, seemingly just in time to make me even more confused, I came across an article that advertised Legal Nomads (.com), which is basically the story of a young lady lawyering in NYC and then quitting the gig to travel the world.

My question is - have you ever heard of ANYONE having relative flexibility to continue working in the legal field while marrying their love of travel (okay, and/or frequent relocation)?

My current goal is to pursue a law degree with a healthcare certificate, as that's my background, and I feel strongly as both a clinician and director in my field that I have the chops to make some changes in the increasingly complicated field.

That being said, International Law sounds super sexy and may be more aligned with my dream of traveling/relocating, but I have no poli sci background. Maybe there's a way to fuse Healthcare Law with a sprinkle of International Law to broaden my employability across regions and nations?

(I'll leave the dream of being an entrepreneur for a later date)

i did pt-72 recently and got one of my worst RC scores in recent pts at -9.

Did anyone who usually does 170+ in modern PTs find that they slipped well below their average on this PT? How many you missed in different sections and rc passages of this PT?

i thought the LG (game-4) and RC of this one were very difficult. i was planning to decide whether to take October or not based on this PT performance. but i am now not sure if this PT is representative of recent tests in general.

I've been working on it for months. It's already been edited. It's an "overcoming adversity statement" which I really did not want to do in the beginning but whatevs. Two people have shredded it due to wanting to skirt around a disability I have.... One of them has "edited" out most of the statements that state the disability... So it is no longer an over coming anything statement....I rescue odd critters who are sick and no one wants then get them healthy and give them a forever home.... I am super passionate about it and it is a big part of my "personality"..... Ideas? encouragement? screaming rants at me for letting anyone look at the paper after it had been professionally edited? Did I mention the application is due Oct 1st and I'm taking the LSAT on the 3rd.... BTW Only 1 of the two people is even slightly qualified to give any advice.

~Frustrated in Texas

Just discovered 7sage after spending appx 2k on a prep course and Powerscore books. I have been prepping on and off since January-May and almost every day from June-now and have only managed to increase about 10pts (which fluctuates). I am taking the October test & I have zero motivation left. I actually want to get the test out of the way because I feel like I have reached my limit and cannot improve. This is sad to say since going into prepping, I was so motivated to get to my ideal score.

That being said, has anyone gone through this situation? I don't really know anyone taking the LSAT, that is why I am so happy to have found 7sage, even though I did so too late.

WEDNESDAY, September 23rd at 8PM ET: PT51

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Jon did an excellent job. But he is too smart that after he read the stimulus, he can always find a right way to stab the question right into the heart. I could not follow him. I feel more comfortable with JY's explaination. He lower this level to a mundane moron and explain from a moron's perspective. LOL.