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Hey Feb Peeps! We got work to do!

Because of the special webinars this week, we’re moving our Wednesday session to Tuesday.

SPECIAL DAY: Tuesday, Jan. 12th at 8PM ET: PT70

Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/548459389

Friday, Jan. 15th at 8PM ET: Superprep B

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Sunday, Jan. 17th at 8PM ET: PT71

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NOTE: You can get Superprep B here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979305063?keywords=LSAT%20Superprep&qid=1451922968&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

and

here: https://www.cambridgelsat.com/preptests/4-section/#official-lsat-preptest-1-june-1991

NOTE: Great News! Starting now we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs.

Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

February Test Takers Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/5520/february-test-takers-group-br-schedule-very-tentative

Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

BR GROUP NOTES:

  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • Then, download the application (for your computer or mobile device).
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hello the amazing 7sage community,

    I'm wondering if someone would like to have a look at my LSAT addendum explaining a score increase (more precisely, why I performed bad last time). It's only one paragraph/120 words but you might need to bear with all of my questions and concerns.

    I'm more than willing to have a look at your essay in exchange for your kindness (maybe anything but a full PS draft for that paragraph lol, but if you also want to also look at my why school statement once I finish it ----).

    Thanks in advance!

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    Proctors: 1

    Facilities: Nothing noticeable bad. Building was bigger, but was able to find the restrooms pretty easily.

    What kind of room: Took the exam in one of two small lecture-style auditoriums.

    How many in the room: 25-30

    Desks: Auditorium seating with swivel-up desks.

    Left-handed accommodation: Possibly.

    Noise levels: In general the building and class room was parking.

    Parking: Though parking could have been an issue given the area, I had no trouble parking on campus relatively close to the building.Did not have to pay to park. I got there pretty early to find a spot, and saw several.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: Took about 25 minutes for everyone to line up and get assigned a room.

    Irregularities or mishaps: None. Everything went smoothly.

    Other comments: Things were very calm and went smoothly.

    Would you take the test here again? I would probably prefer a place with bigger desks. I had to store my stuff on the ground or the seat next to me. Would have been nicer to be able to spread more.

    Date[s] of Exam[s]:February 2015.

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    Just decided to postpone last minute cuz my scores weren’t consistent and I really wanted a 170+ and it would be my fifth take... feeling pretty defeated ;/

    I really hope this isn’t a mistake. but excited to work with all the November test takers!!

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    Let me first say that I was granted 50% extra time for the LSAT so I'm still getting used to the difference. My last test was a 165 with 23/26 LR, 23/25 LR, 16/23 LG, 21/27 RC. I feel really confident about LR for the most part but 3 of the questions I missed were strengthening questions so I'll definitely drill those. I actually misread one of the logic games that was stacked traits and totally bombed it with 2/7 for that game but I'll also drill those to make sure I don't make that mistake again and if I would've understood the game I'm fairly confident I would've gone 20-21/23 in that LG section. HOWEVER, the RC is screwing me up big time. It is SO difficult for me to get any type of improvement in RC. I am so stuck and not sure where to go even with accommodations I am absolutely unsure how to approach RC passages sometimes. Should I just drill them like any other game? How about Reviewing the RC? I see tangible improvement in everything but RC I feel like.

    Edit: I also should note that its mainly Humanities and Social Sciences passages that I feel especially challenging.

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    hey all,

    i know for LR, the usual benchmark is spend 1 minute per question (for 15 in 15, 25 in 25). And If you're at 1 minute and still can't get it, just skip it.

    for RC, what's the benchmark in terms of how much time to spend on a question?

    For RC, I've heard of ppl view this by thinking of "processes" (read all AC, reread question stem, go back to passage, and if still can't get it, then skip). They focus on "processes" instead of time.

    The challenge, though, is there are some RC questions (like the REALLY LONG analogy questions that take up half a page where the question stem is a a paragraph long and each answer choice is a paragraph long), where just reading the question stem and all the AC's takes like 3 minutes.

    Should I just skip these REALLY long RC questions, or just dive in them and spend 3 minutes on them?

    Any advice or suggestions appreciated. Thank you!

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    I had a really hard time understanding the answer choices, which is why I missed this one. I don't understand how D is the flaw.

    Determinism is the belief that everything has a preceding cause sufficient for its occurrence. This belief is wrong since we cannot know the complete state at any given time since we cannot accurately measure both the position and velocity of a subatomic particle at the same time.

    What I am looking for: Is knowing the complete state relevant? Why can't a complete understanding of the state of the universe be beyond our understating and determinism still be correct? Next, is not accurately measuring position/velocity of subatomic particles evidence for not knowing the complete state of the universe?

    Answer A: This isn't the flaw in the reasoning. Just because we can't know at the same time doesn't mean we can't know them independently.

    Answer B: This is what I chose, and I chose it because I couldn't figure out what D actually said. I guess this isn't the flaw since the argument isn't saying "since we can't know the complete state of the universe we can't know the states of the particles." I think this statement is backwards since the lack of knowing the states of the particles is used to support the idea that we don't know the state of the universe.

    Answer C: Isn't this exactly the same idea as A? Skip.

    Answer D: I don't understand how this is the flaw. Where does the argument claim that there is "no complete state of the universe?" The argument only says "it's impossible to know the complete state of the universe" because we don't know the complete state of the subatomic particles. The point of the argument is that determinism is incorrect, but I don't see how saying determinism is false means that there is no complete state of the universe. Why can't determinism be wrong since the preceding cause isn't sufficient for the occurrence, or for some type of negation of the necessary conditions provided in the first 2 sentences?

    Answer E: I don't really know why this is wrong other than it just "feels" wrong.

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    Proctors: 4-5 women. One was very particular about not having water bottles on the desks for some reason. Don't think anyone got called out for taking too long. They actually seemed helpful when people had questions.

    Facilities: 3rd floor of the law school

    What kind of room: Med-Lg size lecture hall

    How many in the room: ~100

    Desks: More like big tables. Plenty of room for any papers. Lots of space between you and the person/people next to you.

    Left-handed accommodation: Since they were tables it wasn't really an issue

    Noise levels: Fine, didn't have any issues at all.

    Parking: Had to pay but it was a couple blocks away and there was plenty of parking.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: ~2 hours

    Irregularities or mishaps: None

    Other comments: I think this is a great spot to take the test. Of all of the things I was worried about, none happened.

    Would you take the test here again? Yes, actually I am in June.

    Date[s] of Exam[s]: 12/2015

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    Hello 7Sagers,

    I am currently working on weaken questions and I am having a hard time understanding the task. I understand that I am supposed to focus on the conclusion, but find the gap between the premises and conclusion ( with the ac) that will weaken the argument. However, it is hard for me to do this accurately because i feel its too much in my head and i get confused. What are some strategies you all use to stop yourselves from getting confused. Do you focus only on weakening the conclusion or something else? Can i think of weakening questions in another way?

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    Hey all,

    I'll dive right into it - I am struggling with something called an inadvertent memory recall (made the name up) when re-doing practice tests. I don't know if this is a real "science" thing or if someone in the community mentioned this already (searched after doing some light research) but its something I'm struggling with. I have my own solutions posted below and extremely curious to hear what you're thoughts are to avoid this habit.

    Here's an example, about 2-3 months ago I wrote PT 73 and recently re-took it. I noticed that I was inadvertently 'lax' when doing both LR sections, which at the time felt strange. While I was in 'lax mode' (which I try to avoid at all times) in the LR sections, however, I caught myself recalling bits of information I remembered up when I first took the exam! This is clearly a big no-no as it can lead to a highly inaccurate score, hinder my ability to get better and, worst of all, it may as well be a false indicator of genuine improvements. My last PT was a 168, but after taking PT 73 my score was 155! I practically went back to my 'old self' when I re-took this exam when, clearly, I improved.

    My 2 solutions to this accident are as follows:

    Purposefully give yourself tunnel vision and magnify into each word when reading the LR stim.

    If a piece of 'old self' information creeps up on you while doing an LR question, quickly sling your ass back to reality (much like a rubber band) and restart at the top of the stim.

    That's my 2 cents. Curious to hear other remedies or advice!

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    I don't know if this is possible, or something others have requested in the past (I didn't see any previous requests for it), but I would love to have my settings from my previous quiz saved when I move on to the next one. Or even if there was just an option to "Use Presets" from before so I could activate them in one click — that would be simply magical.

    Here are the settings I'm referring to, if you're not familiar:

    Ideally, I'd like to be able to automatically activate fullscreen mode (1 click), coffee shop background noise (2 more clicks), select a highlighter (1 more click), and set the font size to "small" (2 more clicks). For those of you counting along, that's 6 clicks for each quiz, before starting the quiz. That can get to be a lot if you're doing 15 quizzes in a row (lookin' at you, Weaken Questions section...).

    Obviously, this isn't a "required" feature — just something that would be nice to have. I don't know if there's anywhere to "officially" request features aside from the "Contact Us" option, but I thought I'd see if anyone else thought this might be useful.

    What do you think? Would this be helpful for you, or am I alone in this desire?

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    So my untimed scores are around 175/176. It takes me about 46 min to finish a section. However, on an times PT my score drops down to 163-165, anyone have tips on how to improve timing while maintaining accuracy?

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    Is it weird that I can easily breeze through more recent LSATs but for some reason I can't even draw a game board from pre LSAT 38 games. LR sections are togher for me too. Should

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    I'm retaking the LSAT in February and am looking for someone to meet with a few times to study with and talk through some of the material. I'm located in Waukesha area but am willing to travel to Madison or Milwaukee area, or perhaps other places to meet at least a few times. Please message me if you live in the area. Thanks!

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    I need help diagramming statements (with contrapositives) with keywords like: some, most, few, many, none, no one. I am having troubles answering Must be True questions on LR section that has those keywords. And, do I always translate such statements in if/then format or is there instances when it is not applicable?

    (example question that throw me off with these keywords is Q12, Section 2, PT23. How can they use "weak local government" as sufficient without negating it when the FL structure in stimulus makes it necessary? and if that is possible, why D is incorrect then compared to the correct answer B?)

    Thank you!

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    7S

    Wednesday, May 7, 2025

    7Sage

    Official

    LSAT Podcast: 5-Star Review (of Your Practice Test)

    Listen and subscribe:

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    Are you finding your LSAT review process isn't yielding the results you want? Bailey, Nicole, and ZeSean discuss why simply checking answers isn't sufficient and introduce better approcahes approach to review. They detail essential techniques, including effective error analysis strategies and mastering the Blind Review method, explaining how these transform review from a passive chore into an active, powerful tool for boosting your score.

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    All groups now meeting at 7pm ET. Folks with schedule restraints—please just join when you can. You won't miss much. Any serious objections, please PM me. Schedules can be changed but only if you let me know!!

    Questions about upcoming weeks' schedules? Look at this. http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/3490/october-15-group-br-calendar-now-available

    BR Groups, Week of September 15th: THURSDAY (PT72), Sat (PT73)

    Ok. Ok. Ok. You still with me? ARE YOU STILL WITH ME, FUTURE SAGES???

    Of course you are.

    THURSDAY (NOTE DAY CHANGE, this week only), September 17th at 7PM ET: PT72

    Join @pujals and Matt N. for this evening of delights.

    LSATurday, September 19th at 7PM ET: PT73

    Second to last LSATurday. *tear*

    Note on all groups

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle nikkers625 .
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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