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Hi, i posted on here recently for Alabama test takers wanting to meet up. I am in Birmingham seeking study friends. Please let me know!!!

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So the Foundation course in core curriculum is "Let's Dive In", "Arguments" and "Grammar" etc.

They contained number of hours required and finished.

After finishing them the hours disappear. I wanted to look at the predicted hours by 7sage and compare it with my own progress to gauge a better understanding of how long it would take to complete a section. Appreciate any help.

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I've been trying to make a LG summary and was wondering if anyone has any notes that they'd like to exchange? Just a brief overview of what to keep in mind when encountering each type of game set!

Thanks so much and happy studying!!

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The Question Bank is great!

Progressing through the PT phase, I was wondering if it is possible to have a Filter/Sort for the PT's that I have entered into Analytics to create problem sets to drill? Utilizing the problem sets within the curriculum was immensely helpful and I have created similar problem sets with PTs that I have taken. Curious if it could be easier to delineate which PTs to choose to create mini-drill sets and be able to maintain the integrity of fresh PTs?

Any advice appreciated to make it an easier process:)

(p.s. This post is in no way advocating for extensive drilling on a specific Question type - taking sections and being able to adapt as the questions are presented is paramount:)

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In this episode, Nicole and ZeSean take a look at a breakdown of each LR question type's frequency in a given section, providing insights on the ways this information might impact the way you study for the LSAT. Join us this week for a fun episode looking at the numbers!

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Hi all — I have a question on the admissions process. I took the September exam and received a terrible score (in the low 140s), so I am planning on sitting for the November one. Ideally, my November score would be higher, but regardless, I’m committed to applying this cycle and given my career goals and situation, I am fine with going to a lower-ranked school. A little background about myself: I graduated from a strong liberal arts college in 2018 with a 3.8+ GPA and worked as a paralegal at a big law firm in downtown NYC for about a year following graduation — stopping early this summer to dedicate full-time studying for the LSAT.

Now to my question: am I allowed to apply to a couple of schools where I have a high chance of securing admission (Roger Williams, New England Law, Vermont Law, among others) with my September score right now — and then wait for my November score to apply to a different set of schools, assuming that my score is higher? The rationale for applying right now to lower ranked schools would be to take advantage of getting my app in early and to get a couple of acceptance letters, which would give me the peace of mind that I will be going to law school next fall. Does this rationale have merit or upside? (Would I even hear back from schools before December?) And will admissions at schools like Roger Williams frown upon that or not at all? Moreover, would they delay rendering a decision on my app since they know that I am taking it again and do not want to immediately accept me knowing full well that I won’t likely attend if my Nov. score is higher? As you can discern, I am in the process of processing my September performance and am concerned about admission. In addition, if I apply to a school right now/before my November test, will they wonder why I am applying at this moment, as I assume that they can see that I’m registered for November? Further, I plan to write an LSAT addendum, but if I were to apply before the November test, how would schools interpret that? Will they think: “Why is he writing an addendum when he only took it once and seems to be settling on such a dismal score?”

Any advice and insight would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

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LSAT Party time, that is!

LSATurday, Nov 14th at 8PM ET: PT53

Click here to join this conversation: https://join.skype.com/C8Yeac0csm8G

Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76 and PM your email for Google Hangout.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Although not among the headlines during Congressional debates, the signing of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act in July has massive financial ramifications for this year's crop of law school applicants. Joining us to break down the ins-and-outs of the bill and provide a broader historical perspective to matters is fellow 7Sage admissions consultant, Reyes Aguilar.

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    Recently been having trouble with the app. on my cellphone (android). Two problems in particular :

    The background noise function is seemingly permanently turned up to 10. It just spits out constant noise even at the level 1 setting.

    Oftentimes after like the 1st/2nd section the app will act as if it were the 4th/5th section and play the recording for turning in answer sheets and stop timing. I can fix it just by resetting the app, but it's kind of irritating when it happens in the middle of PTs.

    Anyone else have this issue? How did you fix it?

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    B is definitely a flaw in the argument, but can someone analyze my breakdown of D? Here is my breakdown:

    50% of people in the survey believe that politician indicted----->politician resign.

    35% believe that that politician resign----->politician convicted.

    Therefore, more people think politician indicted----->politician resign than those that believe politician convicted---->politician resign.

    What I am looking for: First, the conclusion is about "people" in general, but we are using a survey/poll. This introduces the possibility that the poll was biased/unrepresentative. Second, the conclusion makes a sufficiency/necessity conflation in the second comparative statement (about conviction). I didn't see this at first since, and I caught this flaw during BR.

    Answer A: This is OK statistical/inductive reasoning. This would describe the flaw if the answer choice put the words "potentially biased" in front of sample.

    Answer B: This is the correct answer since the 35% think resign--->convicted. But, the conclusion is about convicted--->resign. Pretty obvious answer choice if you read the last sentence carefully.

    Answer C: What term is ambiguous? At best, the argument assumes that "politicians" and "elected officials" are the same thing, but that is an OK assumption.

    Answer D: This is what I chose since I failed to see the sufficiency/necessity conflation originally. Would this be correct if the conclusion was correctly stated (if the comparative statement stated resign---->convicted)? Since the two responses convey different beliefs and since the argument is drawing a conclusion/comparison between them, is that a flaw? I am not so sure since the conclusion is about there being "more people" believing X than Y. Since both question were part of the same poll (and presumably same sample size) and since 50% is larger than 35% of that same sample size, would the argument have been valid (assuming there was not sample bias as well)?

    Answer E: Why can't the premises all be true?

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    YO PEOPLE

    Quick post

    Wanna BR tonight? PT69 at 7pm ET

    Well I won't be there. But I think some others will. SO. Add me on Skype (nikkers625) and let me know if you want to join in. I might be able to pop in at the beginning just in case it's all newbies on the call. And then I will abandon you and you will just have to get therapy for that later.

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    Lately, anecdotal evidence has me thinking that the LSAT skews more toward the later answer choices (D and E) in what seem to be harder questions. I wonder if anyone has run some simple statistical analysis on this, and this would seem to be the site that does it.

    Here's a few research questions that might yield interesting results (or not):

    -For LR, taking the last 10 questions of all sections that have been released and taking a look at the distribution of correct answer choices. Is there a skew toward D or E?

    -For RC, take the last 2 questions of each passage that has been released and look at the distribution of correct answer choices. Is there a skew toward D or E?

    -For both of the above. Instead of just looking at the distribution, one thing I have noticed is that on many of the more difficult questions, LSAC tends to insert a misleading answer toward the beginning while the correct answer is at the end. This tactic exploits a psychological tendency that people have called "priming" where a given stimulus (like a tempting but wrong answer choice) shapes the way a test taker views later information. So for all questions in which more than 15% of test takers wrongly chose A or B, what is the distribution of correct answer choices? Is there a skew toward D or E?

    The last research question is especially helpful because it provides a vital piece of information when you've narrowed down answer choices toward the end. It's a more pointed way at educated guessing than blinding picking D or E. I'd love to hear what people find, if anything.

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    Hello fellow 7sagers,

    I am feeling a bit discouraged, as the LG Section has been destroying my confidence and overall my score. As a whole, I am pretty solid on on the RC and LR sections, but the LG section has been holding me back. My problem is i cannot identify which game board to use via the word problem prompt. I am somewhat confident in my abilities to solve the problem but getting to the game board and knowing which one to use has been difficult. I have been scoring on average -11 to -16 on LG sections. Anyone have any tips or advice on how to decipher these prompts in order to identify which game board to use?

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    Hi 7Sage! I love this forum, sorry to pester you all again with walls of text.

    Background: I started studying the June 2007 test. I did well on the RC/LR sections but only got halfway through the second game of the LG section before I hit 35 minutes. I think I got three wrong so ended up 6/23 for the section. Since then my entire focus has been on logic games. I've probably printed out some 40 games and completed them under timed conditions, and I've read the entire Powerscore LG Bible. I still can't complete 4 games in 35 minutes consistently. It's easily my weakest section despite putting all my focus on it.

    I knew there was no chance I could study for the February exam with school going on so I decided to take last December's while I was traveling so I could see where I was at. I missed an entire game on the LG section (filled in all Ds for it so I might have gotten me a point or two) and scored a 166.

    Since then I've taken 4 timed PTs and scored very well when I complete the LG section in time (172, 175) and worse when I don't (166, 167). Generally I lose very little on RC/LR (they're about equal losses for me) and that hasn't really changed since I started taking tests. That said I think the only way I'm getting accepted into a decent law school in Canada with my abysmal GPA (the program I'm in is terrible for GPA but that's another story) is with a T14 level LSAT. So I know that in all likelihood if continual drilling of LG sections is not improving my speed anymore I really need to be able to count on a -0/1/2 for each of the other three sections.

    BUT I also know that reading about LGs dramatically changed how I approach them and how I think about them. In some ways it's good, in some ways I think it's actually slowed me down (surely a lot of my improvement can be chalked down to repetition). I am very nervous about studying RC/LR extensively only to destroy some innate logic I've developed before the LSAT or to slow down my reasoning as I usually finish those sections with 1-2 minutes. I'm also worried of making my logic formulaic (as stupid as that might sound), because the way I approach RC/LR right now feels pretty organic, and the way I do LG feels totally formulaic.

    Of the questions I've gotten wrong, no type stands out. The only similarity between them is that they were all 4/5 star difficulty questions, but I have no types of question to drill/learn about specifically. So for anyone who has been at the point where they average -3/-5 or something like that on LR/RC and wanted to take that down to consistent -0/-2 did you manage it? And how did you go about doing it? Or if anyone found LR/RC came naturally to them did you find studying those sections specifically was actually detrimental? And if anyone thinks it's worth studying LR/RC, what would you say I should start with material wise? As for LG, is there any better speed improving strategy than to drill?

    Sorry this is so long or if it all comes off as paranoid. I'm just feeling a little nervous after talking to schools and finding out the level of score I'll have to get to be accepted anywhere decent and am kind of lost on how to move forwards from here.

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