Was PT155 comparatively more challenging than other PTs, or is it just me? I specifically really struggled with the first section (LR Exp) and third section (RC).

BR Group!!!! PT 72 aka “The WidowmakerOVO"

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Thursday, Feb 4th at 8PM ET: PT 72

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June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

NOTE: I front-loaded the PT 70 - 75 because I believe that people need to get eyes on 70s sooner rather than later. We’ll still have PT 76 and 77 available to PT in May. Trust me when I say it is worth it to do these tests twice. And if you don’t feel comfortable hitting the 70s yet, don’t worry. We’re going to repeat this cycle of PT 70-75 at the end of February just in case.

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Hi all, I am currently doing online BR with other sagers. Some of them leave after the test in this October so we want to recruit one or two more sagers to join our discussion.

Our BR discussion focuses solely on LR, one section per week; around 90 min to finish our review. We are open to meet online one more time per week for an additional LR or RC section, which we could talk about it later in our skype group.

We hope that you are at least above 160 and a regular and consistent participation is a must. Also you might need to have a Skype account. Most of us are in the time zone GMT +8. So, as long as your time zone is not too far away from ours, I think we won't have a problem to find the time for our discussion.

Shoot me a message if you are interested in joining us!

Does anyone know where to find more recent tablet stimulated lsats ? I’ve gone through all of 7Sage’s and want more recent test if possible! Thanks in advance

I have written three addendums now for different things - the first is for my low undergraduate GPA, the second is for my unemployment gaps in my resume, and the third is for my 13 point fluctuation in LSAT scores. Each one is around two paragraphs long. I am feeling like my application will be overwhelming now to admissions with my multiple addendums, diversity statement, "Why school X?" essay, and personal statement. Does this seem like too much? Any input would be helpful! Thanks.

Proctors:

I don't even know where to start. The proctors were completely inexperienced and as that wasn't enough of a nightmare they were extremely rude to test takers. To be point of humiliating students in front of everyone in the class, making them feel horrible for walking in with labels on their water bottles (just really overusing their authority). They seemed very confused about every step from the time students were entering the room until the time the test was about to begin.

Facilities:

The facilities are alright. The test building is easy to find.

What kind of room:

Just a typical community college class room. Very small setting compare to other I have attended.

How many in the room:

Most 20 students each room. There were several rooms at this testing center.

Desks:

You have to share the desk with another student. There is enough distance between sits, but can be quite distracting with you are a person that gets easily distracted.

Left-handed accommodation:

The desk works for both left and right handed people the same way.

Noise levels:

Very silent, especially since the room is so small.

Parking:

Parking is okay, there is enough spaces for everyone.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

One hour, seems like it is not that long, but the proctors make it so stressful that it seem like YEARS!

Irregularities or mishaps:

This test center is a NIGHTMARE. Like previously mention the proctors make the experience so stressful that you begin the test already feeling horrible about the experience. Unfortunately, the way people act towards me at the test center really impacts my overall experience, so this really ruined it for me. The proctors really abuse of their power, by making a big deal out of every little detail and they were calling out different things in front of the whole classroom making test takers feel really uncomfortable. I felt so humiliated that I went home and didn't finish my exam there, I tried to complain to the LSAC, but nothing was done about it. So, my advice, do NOT sign up for this test center.

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again?

NEVER AGAIN! I would rather drive 20 minutes to go take the test in Northwestern University (I had a great experience there).

Date[s] of Exam[s]:

December 5th, 2015

"June 2014 lsat score" thanks

I listened to JY's BR call on this question ( https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/21699 ).

I don't get why he was so dismissive of answer choice C -- I would say it weakens the argument. An alternative explanation as to why the artist's face showed up in the painting (other than him painting it himself) serves to weaken the argument that painter of the painting has been determined. And that's what C provides -- his face may be there because the actual painter used him as a live model. I mean, he's an artist, completely reasonable that he would be in the milieu of artists in the area, and was asked by a friend to pose as a live model.

I agree that D more strongly weakens, but disagree with (what seemed to be) JY's position that C doesn't weaken at all.

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Scoring in early-mid 150s, BR early 160s. Looking for study buddies and aiming to take March/April LSAT. I am able to meet online. Message if interested! Thanks.

I checked off the LGBTQ+ box in an app for UCI and mentioned that I was gay in my "Why X" essay. A few days after being admitted I received an email from a 1L who is apart of their LGBTQ club, saying welcome and feel free to ask me any qs if you would like to find out about my experience as a queer student at UCI.

I thought that was very sweet of the school to have that student email me. Have other schools done anything similar for you?

I am admitted to a law school with a scholarship. The tuition deposit is due 4/15/2020. I am considering to retake the LSAT again for a better score for a more scholarship consideration. The earliest I can re-take is the March Exam (3/30/2020) but the score will not be released until after the tuition deposit deadline. If I get a better score after making the tuition deposit, will the school still consider giving more scholarship?

Hi Guys,

Can you guys please help me take a look if my analysis on B & C is correct? https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-17-section-3-question-08/

The question is very much like a SA question. The answer choices can be quickly eliminated by a match principle into the sufficient condition. However, I think we can expand on this problem more.

A is correct. So won't go into detail about it.

B. The sentence is wrong based on 2 reasons. The first reason is by putting the conclusion as the sufficient condition. Even if we were to change the answer into: If election campaigns are to be funded from public funds, it will allow politian to devote less time asking for money than serving the interest of the public, this is still wrong because it is formulated into a C-->P Relationship, while what we are looking for is P-->C relationship.

C is wrong because it talks of a different set that we do not know. Had this question be translated into an Inference MBT Except question, the asnwer choice then is correct.

D. is wrong based on 2 counts. The first count is of the same reason as B by messing up the location of the conclusion into the suffcient condition. But in addition to it that the question steam mix in an unrealted element. Evne if we have deleted that related element from the sentence, it is still incorrect and not 50% correct due to the location issue with the conclusion statement.

If we were to extent this answer choice's analysis a bit further.

Suppose that in this case, the answer choice for A is wrong too. But D is formulated in the following fashion: "if public funding of some activity produces a benefit to the public but also inevitably a special benefit for specific individuals, the activity should be fully funded by the public while the special interest taker group contributes proportionally more".

In this answer choice, iff answer choice is made wrong in other fashion. D will be correct on 2 counts. 1) The sentence is 50% correct. Although it do have irrelevant items in it but part of the argument goes through along with our principle. 2) It is the most correct answer in comparison with the rest of the answer choice.

Had LSAT do this, then the question's difficulty is pushed to a level 4 or 5 difficulty.

E. is wrong because it like C speaks of another different set of population that is above this univerise. Again, it can become a correct answer choice if it is an MBT Inference Except question.

Hello, looking to see if there are other individuals in the NYC area wanting to meet on weekends to discuss wrong answers and go over practice problems together. I have been advised that really focusing on wrong answers and understanding them will help significantly; thus, I wanted to create a study group just focused on this. I am prepping for the June exam as I work full time, thus, I need more runway to study. Feel free to message me!

Is there any chance the lg could’ve been the experimental?

I know. You're thinking about skipping out on BR groups this week. It's summer, you're having "fun," and October seems so far away. Well, it's not. Don't skip BR groups this week.

Listen to the GIF!

Note: Weekday (Weds/Fri) calls now starting at 8PM ET. We haven't had many West Coasters with schedule restraints on recently and would like to give the East Coasters a break (since we've been on until nearly midnight for them recently).

Please also note: Saturday calls still start at 8PM ET!

Wednesday, August 5th at 8PM ET: PT59

Last PT in the 50's!

(s)Friday, August 7th at 8PM ET: PT74

Frighteningly recent test.(/s) rescheduled for next Friday.

LSATurday, August 8th at 8PM ET: PT60

Did you ever imagine having this much fun on a Saturday night??!

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LSAT

Is it worth doing if you don't get into the full time program?

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Hi, All!

I just checked my law school application status and one of them says "Application Pending Final Review." What does this mean? I think I know what it means... my application is going through a final review... is this a good thing or a bad thing? I submitted my application late October and decisions aren't supposed to come out until February.

Now that I think about it, I feel like I'm just overreacting and overthinking haha. Anyway, please shed some light. It's my second application cycle and all I've ever gotten before were waitlist and denied.

Thank you all and Happy Thanksgiving!

Dear 7 sage community,

I am a last semester senior graduating at the end of this semester. Currently I am going to purchase the CAS but if I send in my transcripts now they will be devoid of my last semester of grades which will bring up my UGPA a bit. Do I wait until the end of the semester or does LSAC update these stats?

PT73 BR Tonight at 8pm ET

Well, well, well. About 2 months out and we're gonna BR us some PT73. Needless to say ...

NOTE: We are meeting at 8pm ET tonight. Not 8:30. Latecomers welcome! Gotta give the East Coast folks a break.

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Ahh, ok- so some popcorn takes longer than 3 minutes, I get it now. I think?

Looking for people to study in 209 area

The video explanation was a bit murky here. I'm not so sure why the answer choice is C. I have a good theory on why people likely mistakenly pick C even though it is the right a/c. There are some issues I have with it.

1. its trying to say that if the number of science and engineering students in university programs has increased in the last 5 years then that is somehow proof or strengthening the idea of there being no shortage of scientist and engineers. This is a problematic shift, it requires us to assume they stay in that program, graduate it, AND work in that field. There is no evidence that these people have even graduated never mind ward off an IMMINENT and CATASTROPHIC shortage. Imminent means about to happen, how can people who entered university 3 years ago and are not even employed ward off and IMMINENT shortage? we don't even know when in the last 5 years this increase happened. We just know generally

2. It is also using a raw number to address a question about a total proportion. In otherwords, the correct answer choice here, C, is a percents and numbers FLAW! It would be like saying ok you have a shortage of 90% of workers. C is saying but you have a significant increase in the NUMBER of science grads, so what, you went from 10,000 to 50,000, that doesn't ward of the IMMINENT AND CATASTROPHIC shortage of 400,000 science grads needed. This matters because shortage means proportion it is a ratio not a raw number. It is the amount of jobs to job seeker ratio. You cannot solve this question with a total number.

3. I try to see how C could at least be right, but I have a real problem with it. I suspect most people don't recognize it as a ratio issue and just say yeah more students ----> more grads -----> -more job seekers ----->avert shortage and therefore Strengthen conclusion. There is a problem at literally everyone of these jumps but the worse one is you can have a significant increase of students, grads, job seekers, and still not avert an IMMINENT and catastrophic shortage. Maybe I am just not seeing where he is trying to strengthen correctly.

4. So which a/c would I have chosen? Probably D? Why, it is the only question who addresses the issue in the argument and thus has the POTENTIAL to strengthen. If certain science fields have an oversupply and others have a shortage. That indicates 2 thins. 1) For the oversupply field clearly there is no imminent and catastrophic shortage, supporting the conclusion. 2) For the shortage field there is also no imminent and catastrophic shortage, it is a shortage but its not described as imminent or catastrophic, so it indeed also supports the conclusion.

Hello all,

I have been prepping for the January exam since this past summer. I have the PowerScore bibles and the Starter 7Sage curriculum. I spend a lot a time grappling with this material. But for some reason I am just not fully grasping the logical reasoning concept. For some reason, I end up with two answers (one being right and the other being wrong and I always fall for the wrong answer or the one that has absolutely nothing to do with the argument) Weaken, Strengthen, and Necessary Assumptions specifically are my extreme problem areas. I know that Logical Reasoning is a huge component of this test and also a catalyst to success with Logical Games. What are some strategies you all have used to help strengthen your logical reasoning understanding? My goal is to break into the mid or high 150's (those are the scores I need to apply to my top schools and applying next cycle is not an option for me). Please give me strategies to make this a reality.