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Hello,

My name is Ken Kim. We are a group of Koreans and Korean-Americans planning to take the LSAT either this October or in a couple of years. We have members scoring from 160-175 either on the official test or practice tests. Some of us are committed full-time to the test while some of us are working at a company, law firm, etc. We meet on the following dates at the Gangnam station Exit 9 Wing Study Cafe.

8:00 pm-11:00 pm, Monday

8:00 pm-11:00 pm, Wednesday

2:00 pm-5:00 pm, Sunday

We usually meet and do questions from LR and RC. We match our answers and discuss why each one of us have chosen an answer we chose. The fee for joining the study is free other than paying for the studying cafe fee which is 1,900 KRW per person for each hour (5,700 KRW total).

If you are interested, please send me a message to my inbox. I will direct you further. Thanks!

(Posted on behalf of @t-skyjade)

First of all, I’d like to shout out to @Theo for publishing my thoughts for me as I’m currently unable to do so. This is my very first post after reading so many Discussion posts, and I’m here to seek resonance, advice, or any feedback you may have.

I’m Chinese born and raised, and I spent the past 8 years in the States for high school and college. I went to a very prestigious business school in New England and didn’t have the idea of going to law school until the end of my senior year. It’s been almost a full year that I have been studying for the LSAT full-time, and I started in the low 150- range. After going through all the Core Curriculum and taking more than 30 PTs, I’m now in the low to mid 160s, with BR scores that are in the 170 range consistently. As far as I’m happy seeing the progress, I feel like that I’ve been in the 160 bottleneck for too long and yearning to break it. I tend to miss 0-3 questions on LG, an average of 6-7 on LR, and 9 or 10 or sometimes more on RC…I know, RC is my weakest section and I have been reading additional, “extracurricular” readings on my own and redoing old RC passages from the past. In addition, I recently purchased the LSAT Trainer book by Mike Kim, and I honestly hope that I’ll get myself to the 170s before the October exam. If any of you have some advice on breaking the 170 curve, please, let me know what it is. Because all this time, I’ve been doing what I think is necessary to improve my score yet not knowing if it’s sufficient to do so.

At the same time, as you all know, the world is a volatile place due to COVID and China has canceled/not administered pretty much all of the LSAT exams from January to October. Even though pretty much other standardized tests are now back running, the country has canceled the January and March exams and I have received specific answers from LSAC that the October exam will not be administered in mainland China. I’ve been wishing to take the exam in other Asian countries, but currently, there’s the travel ban that makes it almost impossible to get your visa to travel abroad, let alone plane tickets. I’ve had my eye on a Southern Asian country and hoping the consulate will start taking visa requests soon this month so I can register for October exam prior to the deadline, but I honestly don’t know what’s going to happen if they don’t. I could wait until January, but I fear of losing the advantage of not applying early. The anxiety of having to wait for another application cycle eats me up, while every day I try to be resilient and cope with it by doing more studying. But I know I have to give myself an answer, which I’m unable to provide, and so the anxiety reappears.

Besides the feedback loop from hell, there’s some other thing that I would like to share. I keep my plan of going to law school very secretive and only a few of my closest friends know, as a way to protect my dream and I for a lot of people don’t understand why I want to overcome all the obstacles and become an American lawyer. People coming out of my undergrad college tend to go into finance, consulting, or other high-paying, fast-return jobs while I struggle getting my dream score on a standardized test. I tentatively told one person whom I thought was my friend of my law school plan and he belittled me to death. During quarantine this spring, he constantly told me “you are not going to make it”, “why aren’t you out there looking for real jobs”, “you still haven’t given up huh?”, “do you really think you could take the exam post-quarantine?”, and he even said “I’m treating you like this because you have not succeeded yet.” I cut that guy loose but those words traumatized me so much. Studying for the LSAT has been hard enough, and it’s really my dream of becoming a lawyer that makes me sit in front of my desk for 40-50 hours a week and do one PT every other day. It really hurts for someone whom you once considered a friend to trample something you cherish & enamored so much. It also made me realize that I need to protect my dream and shield it with my whole heart. A lot of times, I browse the “success stories” on the Discussion Forum with tears in my eyes, seek courage from people I’ve never met, know they’d understand me, and show me the benefit of doubt as time will prove my progress.

It’s been a difficult time as I get anxious and confused from time to time, but overall, I try to keep my composure and focus on what I ought to do. Luckily, I have noble friends that I can count on, very supportive parents and an extremely strong drive from within. I really have left myself with no backup plan. I don’t simply want to go to law school. I crave it. I dream of it. Every day, I hope there’s an easy way out for me and I could become a lawyer before I turn 30. Yet there’s nothing I hate more than victimizing myself despite that life gets tough sometimes. So it’s been hard reconciling with myself from time to time. Yet, I still try using other people’s words to encourage myself. One of my favorite quotes from the show A Series of Unfortunate Events is “how do we learn to give up in the face of all-powerful? We can never give up. You can never give up if you find yourself in terrible circumstances. You must keep struggling. You must struggle until you find a safe place to live. You must struggle until you find noble and reliable friends. Struggle. And struggle. Until the world can see who you really are.”

(And that’s when little Sunny comes up and takes down Count Olaf.)

I totally didn’t mean to use an analogy to compare myself to Sunny Baudelaire and the LSAT to Count Olaf.

If any of you is looking for a study buddy, please reach out to my email tskyjade@outlook.com

Thank you all very much.

Hi guys,

I am planning on taking the Lsat for the third time. My first two times I got a 146 and 148. The problem with my studying was that I did not take the time to prepare for the exam properly and did not have a good studying schedule. This time around, I plan on studying for the test 4-5 months in advance to ensure that I will get the desired grade which is 160+. Currently I am thinking of studying each section separately for approximately a month, and then have a month or two of only doing PTs and focusing on my weak section which probably will be reading comprehension. Each day therefore, would be separated into 2 study sessions. One in the morning and another at night. If I am working on games for example, I would do 2 timed sections, go over all the questions (with emphasis on the ones I got wrong), take a break and then do another 2 timed games sections.

If you guys could share what worked for you while studying or what you think I might be able to do better with my scheduling please let me know.

June Test takers!!!! JUNERS!!!!!! It’s our inaugural BR group. Our focus?

FUNDAMENTALS

Get them tonight at Group BR!

Wednesday, Dec. 16th at 8PM ET: PT29

Click here to join this conversation: https://join.skype.com/wGTZaVjudu5m

Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

Note: PT 29 is part of the 7Sage curriculum and, for all intents and purposes, is a retake. That being said, I think it’s a great way to build up our LSAT fluency by taking an actual PT without having to use the modern tests until we absolutely have to. Another way of thinking about this is we are essentially going to do BR groups of the 7Sage curriculum, something I know a lot of students have requested. Some people might disagree with me, but I don’t think it wouldn't be a waste of time or effort for those who are still working through the curriculum to do this PT, BR it and then meet up for the call.

Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76 and PM your email for Google Hangout.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Use your reasoning to win the argument.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
  • Does anyone know how to get a hold of someone to ask about live classes? I study mostly in the evening pretty late, and I was hoping to ask someone about getting different classes at night as they seem to rotate relatively similar classes.

    Thanks!

    [Edit]

    Thanks everyone for your interest! I've connected with someone.

    The study buddy feature is not working for me for some reason so I thought I would post here. If you are studying for the October/November test, scoring in the 150s or low 160s and looking for a free tutor please message me. I am also preparing for the October test (and registered for November) so it will be a good way for me to both share and strengthen the strategies that have helped me.

    I am consistently going -4 to -2 in RC, -6 to -2 in LR, and -3 to -0 in LG. Also, I prefer to meet in person so if you are in or near Chicago and its north suburbs please let me know!

    So I just took the August test. At the beginning of the test before the proctor got in, I had my do not disturb on, then when my proctor joined she turned my do not disturb off (I think she thought she was turning it on). With about 20 minutes left in my last section, I got a text saying "Have you taken the lsat yet". I have a mac so it popped up on my laptop too. I didn't open the text or anything I just waited for it to go away. I started panicking and began to go to turn do not disturb back on using the top right bar but then didn't. What are the chances my test get flagged or something else?

    Hi all, I have a study group and looking to add a few more active people into it. We usually test sections on Tuesdays and/or Thursdays. Please only reply if you're on MST/PST so that the scheduling works with everyone. Just send a message and I can add you to the group. Thanks!

    Hi,

    I am taking a semester off of school to focus on fixing my herniated discs and anxiety. I am planning on taking my first LSAT in June and am extremely driven. I started studying in January and wish to score in the 170s. Currently, I am hovering around the low-160s. IF there is anyone who wants to be a study buddy and get after it let me know!

    Dear 7Sagers,

    Thanks to the community and the great material here on 7sage I received a very pleasing 160 on the November LSAT Flex.

    I tell you because I’ve seen a lot of discouragement and disappointment in the forum on score release day!

    I first took August 2020, got a 154, score preview cancelled that score.

    Second I took September, I got the shredder game (look it up) I bombed LG, ended up with a 151 on my permanent LSAT record.

    I have averaged 158, across 30 PT’s and am fairly consistently improving... when this 151 came, I was very disappointed but I jumped back in right away for November!

    I took the test 11/10/20, afternoon.

    Program shut down in the middle of RC passage, someone also knocked on my door which was distracting. But I pushed through... kept focus as much as possible.

    I got a 160 score today. I am so delighted.

    All this to say, I felt hopeless a few weeks ago, but I started drilling games, doing 8-10 games a day. I have thoroughly worked and understand at least 80% of all games! I explain them to anyone who will listen. I really visualize.

    As for strategy, imagine your score with a -0 on games, which you may be able to achieve by the January 16th administration! Work your games, read some passages and outline them to yourself! You can recover from a dropped score! I did! I believe in you! Message me if you need any help!!

    All Best!

    Heather

    So I missed my Oct test, (my fault PST vs CST) I total miss read the time and when I logged in it was too late.What is the consequences on my application for missing an exam? I will schedule to take it on January again.I called LSAC and they said I can't do anything about it. How will this effect my chances of get into LS?

    Weakening Question

    I identified 3 premises here:

  • Subconclusion: Poll results can influence decisions and may distort outcomes. SubPremise: Poll results may not be as reliable as public thinks.
  • Publishing polls immediately before an election doesn´t allow enough opportunity to dispute findings.
  • A ban on polls during the week leading up to an election would not totally violate freedom of speech.
  • Conclusion: Polls during the week leading up to an election should be banned.

    Goal: Find answers that show why one of the premises isn´t true, or why we shouldn´t believe the conclusion to be true.

    Answers:

    A. Few people are influenced by polls in the 2 weeks leading up to elections. THIS INCLUDES 1 WEEK LEADING UP TO THE POLL!!! I completely skipped over that obvious implication originally, but see now why it makes sense.

    B. Uneven - too specific. What about close elections?

    C. Remove motivation actually strengthens.

    D. Gains in popularity - who cares? Irrelevant.

    E. Informed citizens is a stretch to unaffected citizens. Also the comparison is weak - this is ONE country, and we don´t know anything about it.

    My takeaway: Don´t read over answer choices too quickly. Maybe try to visualize even abstract answers and concepts like time - in this case, picture a timelines with a dot representing election. Scribbled out right before it is the 1 week without elections. Answer A says 2 weeks right before, there is no influence. I KNEW I could be looking for an answer showing polls don´t affect citizens, so think about how a bigger line right before your election dot would overlap with the part scribbled out, and see how A is actually giving you about a strong point about the 1 week before.

    since no one responded-just not worrying about this anymore I'm the type of person that loves assembling things together without using other people's instructions, and I'm having a really hard time going into any part of the existing core curriculum content, especially with the large amount of hours that defaults at the top. I did go through the old version w/ lg and part of the new really fast and didn't retain much if at all- got a decent score but want the best score I can get. I'm confident that I can find my own path. But I thought maybe finding some reliable, consistent and responsive who is slowly working their way through the new core curriculum might be beneficial for me. Let me know if you might be that person. I'm on a work hiatus for a few weeks so I have a lot of time for now.

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