New York 7Sagers!

A group of NY based 7sagers have arranged to take practice tests on Saturday mornings from now until the December test. I've been planning on doing those tests, but they are in midtown and would require me to get a much earlier start than I'll actually need on test day. I figured we may have enough Brooklyn 7sagers to organize BK practice tests for Saturdays. Anyone interested in joining me for a group practice test on an upcoming Saturday? I've been taking my practice tests in the quiet study area of the Grand Army Plaza Brooklyn Public Library but am willing to relocate!

Obviously most of us know by now that there are a handful of syllogism forms that reoccur over and over throughout the LR. I know that causality is different from conditionality, but I'm wondering how valid argument forms relate to causal arguments? Are these syllogisms applicable to causal arguments at all or are syllogisms applicable only to conditional arguments?

Yes, my score came in this morning and I got 7 points lower than I was aiming for. Retaking it in December. Anybody have a good study plan laid out? I've already done the 7sage course and gone through about 20 PTs, so I'm thinking about focusing exclusively on more recent PTs (like the last 20) and reviewing/trying to find my weakest points. Does anyone have good advice/pointers? Unfortunately, I had to take the LSAT outside of the US, so my results are undisclosed and I can't go over my mistakes on the actual test :/

Hi everyone!

I was just watching JY's explanation of the third game explanation for the Dec 2004 LSAT. At the very end of the video for Q17 JY tries out answer choice (D) to show us how to determine which answers are incorrect. Why is it that why Y and Z are in the photo W, S, and U get tossed out? Here's is the link for the video http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-45-section-3-game-3/

I'm just confused about the very last question (17) when we try out answer choice D

THANKS!

Hi all,

I wanted to get your guys' opinions on how to study for the December retake. I have done almost all the logic games using the foolproof method and was getting -1 or -2 at most leading up to the September test. When it came test day, however, I got two sections of LG in a row — the second of which ended up counting. I remember the games not being particularly difficult, but for whatever reason, my brain refused to work. I got -7 in the end, which hurts my soul. Anyway, I'm wondering if I should chalk it up to test day nerves/fatigue (I redid that particular LG section yesterday and got -2) or if there's something fundamental I'm missing and should review before I retake the test. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-3-question-21/

I dismissed A right off of the bat because I've grown skeptical of the word every.

I see now that it makes sense because for Sufficient Assumption Questions you need to find the Answer Choice that GUARANTEES the outcome, so A works. It may be extra strong, but that's ok.

I should have also had my eyes peeled more for tricky answer choices because it is Q. 21

Hi,

Can someone please explain the difference between these two question types? I find that there is a significant amount of overlap in the content of answer choices and it is hard to distinguish. Is a MSS question asking for something that is just most likely to be true based on the stimulus? On the other hand, does a MBT have to be true 100% of the time no matter what based on the information in the stimulus? Before coming to 7 sage, I previously used powerscore to self-study and they group both question types together under one umbrella.

Can someone clarify the difference? To me it seems like a MSS is more like a Could be true question from the LG, whereas MBT is always true.

Thanks

I picked E for this one, when the correct choice was C.

I realize that C is the VERY opposite and E is just less relevant (though still logically opposite) to the theory. So for LEAST questions, should we be looking for the VERY opposite? Or the WEAKEST?

Im finding that Im having trouble passing quizzes (as in getting the results that i desire) at the end of a given section. Im really good at solving the questions correctly while practicing- as in pausing the video before JY explains it so that i can figure out the answer myself. But for some reason during the quiz section, Im not as good. To remedy this, I was wondering that as Ive completed each section, that I should use the practice exams to practice out those specific types of questions and to look at the video explanation for each of those questions. Would anyone suggest this? Has anyone tried this in the past? Please help!

Thanks.

How does adcom view a 3.0 in chemistry or physics versus a 3.5 or 4.0 in Com/English/Business? The grades would be coming from a T30 undergraduate institution with a T10/T5 science program. Thanks.

What do you guys think of taking just the 4 section PT with either no breaks or a short 5 minute break after section 3? Is the experimental section really needed if you have the stamina? Also, it would save wasting sections I haven't used yet. Your thoughts are appreciated!

In my latest simulated full tests, I am trying to implement the suggested theory of skipping a really hard question. How do you define which ones to skip? Should we base it solely on time - if a question is sucking up too much time move on? Or should we decide it as soon as we read it? I find that one I am invested in a question, I want to stay on it. In my last test, I did not feel that skipping the ones that I found difficult helped my test score.

Any help would be much appreciated!

Thnks!

If you are in the Orange County area, preferably in Yorba Linda, Anaheim Hills, Irvine, or Fullerton, and would like a study buddy, please get in touch with me. Also, it would be nice if you have not been exposed to PrepTests 62-71, since those are the ones I am about to "indulge" in--and Preptest 73 when 7Sage puts it on sale on Nov 1.

I would love to help you with anything you may have a question on, and likewise, would love to learn anything that you have to teach. I currently get near perfect scores on the games section, do well on the LR sections (usually -3, -4), and am focusing mostly on the RC section, since that is my biggest weakness.

With a group, we can hold ourselves accountable to our study schedule and have fresh eyes to tackle the questions that we missed. Ideally, we will meet up, take a preptest with the 7sage proctor in the background, and then blind review it individually--leaving time to ask questions about the questions that we missed. Or we can split this up to two separate days, day 1: take preptest, day 2: blind review, etc. I am open to suggestions, but would like to get through at least 2 preptests a week.

My e-mail: matthewray1287@gmail.com

When you are taking the LSAT, is it in a binded, book-like format (you know, with the spine still attached)? Or is it just stapled on the upper left corner like any other standardized test?

Also, is each section independently separated from the other? Or are they all attached together?

Hi all!

I have been revising my personal statement for a month by now and I think it is good to go. I went to the writing center at my school and while it helped a little, I would really appreciate if I could get objective opinions from two or three people. I want to start sending out applications this week or next week so this is the last piece of the puzzle! I can email it to anyone who is willing and able.

Thanks :)

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-1-game-3/

In the logic games section of the June 2007 LSAT, question 17 of the cruise line game is tripping me up. I know why AC D is right but I can't for the life of me figure out why E is wrong. Maybe I'm missing something obvious? But how can T be visited more than twice since the destinations can't be scheduled for consecutive weeks and J can't go into week 4 with G immediately preceding J

I am retaking the LSAT in December because I had the craziest physical issues occur the night right before the September LSAT and I nearly felt like I was a zombie in the LSAT. If you are in the Philly area and are willing to meet up in person, or if you would like to study via skype, oovoo, google chat, etc. please let me know. I can't afford much tutoring, and I am considering buying the 7Sage Starter kit, but I am going to review again my LSAT Trainer and go over all 40 PT's I have and do this one last time. There's no turning back and I need a motivational group that can all help each other out! The LSAT is an emotional, psychological, and mental game and we need everyone to be there for one another. If you're interested, please let me know. I would be grateful to have people to study and succeed with. We have a little over a month left so let me know ASAP.

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Logical Reasoning seems to be the bane of my existence. I WAS scoring in the 158 range, but as preptests go on, I only sit in the range of 150-151. I scored a 150 this morning.

I took some time to really know the Logic Game section when my score started falling. When I was at 158 I was scoring -5 to -10 on LG, but today I scored -2.

I know my Reading Comp sits anywhere from -6 to -10, so I know that that might be the thing that stays constant. I can work to improve upon it, but I don’t anticipate any mass improvements in it. I still do actively read passages, and additional reading on my own.

Okay. So Logical Reasoning. I have tried going through past lessons and doing past questions, but I find now that I know the answer it’s hard to really just look at the reasoning behind it.

During the exam, I can feel myself rushing through every question. And I feel now, after reading a comment in the discussions, that it might be because I’m not focused on getting the question right I’m focused on answering all the questions.

The last prep test, out of 52 Logical Reasoning questions, I got 24 wrong. Which is really a determinate. I got almost the exact number wrong on this exam I took this morning.

Can anyone provide me with some help? I’m taking an LSAT prep course over the weekend, so I hope they’ll help with my understanding of some questions.

I am going to BR my exam today, focusing on the LR sections first, but I want to know what you think would be the best method for studying moving forward? What is your best method for conquering LR?

I study part time. In the morning from 7:00-8:30, lunch from 12-1, and after work from 5:30-8:30 PM. So all-day studying methods aren’t useful for me, unfortunately.

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So I thought SA questions were rough, but nope! NA questions are going to be the death of me! I'm just not able to distinguish between sufficient and necessary when looking at the answer choices but it makes sense to me when reviewing the lessons before the questions. Weird, I know. Initially I didn't negate because it won't always work so I wanted to learn how to actually find the necessary Assumption, but now I'm just like screw it! I'm wondering if I can get away with just negating the answer choices? How badly do you guys think this will harm me? Anybody wanna take a stab at getting me to see how you conquer these questions? Anything is greatly appreciated! TIA!

I'm here for a year abroad. However, I want to aim for next year's LSAT and have started studying.

If anyone is up for bi/weekly meetups around Paris that would be cool.

Some of my notes are outdated, and I'd like to delete them. Am I missing something or can they not be deleted?

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Hello,

I see that on the study schedule, it has LSAT practice exams set out for 12 hours. I am wondering why it says 12 hours when a real exam is only about 3 hours without writing. Can someone please let me know? Thanks.

Hello,

I find that I really struggle with Humanities/Diversity passage types. Especially when they talk about a particular author/artist...

I usually score -1 or -2 on all other passage types, but these tend to give me the most difficulty, getting up to 3-5 questions wrong per passage...

Anyone else have/had this problem?

Any hints on how to improve on these passage types?