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I was wondering if you guys went over whole of the curriculum first and then started doing full pretests, or were you doing them as you go along ? Also were you doing whole length pretests or just sections?

-Thnx

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Last comment wednesday, jun 04 2014

Main Point/Conclusion Questions

I'm having what I think is a weird issue. I'm not doing well with the MP/MC questions but I seem to be doing ok with the other questions. Doesn't that seem odd? If I'm having trouble with the MP/MC questions how am I able to do the other question types? Isn't this question type the most important as far as LR questions? If you can't identify the argument how can you be successful with the other question types? I think my problem is that I can determine the main conclusion if the indicator words are there but not so much if they're not. So, I'm not getting many of the harder questions correct. I'm not doing so well with determining the premises, sub-conclusions, etc. I'm using Manhattan along with 7 Sage. Obviously I have more reviewing and studying to do, but what am I missing? I'm just not getting this question type. I'm taking September test so I still have time. It's just kind of frustrating. I've been studying off and on for the past year due to some major health issues. I'm just now getting back into really studying so I know I may just be rusty but I wasn't getting these questions right when I was studying hardcore. Any questions or thoughts?

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Last comment wednesday, jun 04 2014

Testmasters vs 7Sage

Hi, I know this topic has been covered in the forum already but I thought I'd ask again for more input.

I'm currently debating whether to continue and upgrade 7Sage course or travel abroad to take the in-class Testmasters. I'm scoring in the 150s and I feel as though the class structure + homework would help me pull up my score a bit from there which I can pull up further with 7Sage on my own.

Any thoughts?

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Last comment wednesday, jun 04 2014

The incredible power of 7sage

Wanted to share a bit of inspiration with everybody, and thank the guys at 7sage.

3 months ago I started studying for the LSAT with no idea what I was getting into. Logic Bibles were, frankly, not that helpful, and googling around for tutors just revealed absolutely shocking prices. By chance found a 7sage youtube video explaining LGs, which was my first encounter with an actually useful explanation. Hesitated for a moment over the 200 bucks or whatever it was for the online program but it's been the best investment probably of my life.

Here's my graph of improvement since my first timed PT:

http://imgur.com/a/HYnak

That's 100% down to the 7sage curriculum: My LG bible is getting dusty on a shelf. I really think that the improvement I've seen is not just possible for everybody, but on the low end - those final few points are tough to squeeze out. Everybody taking it in a week - good luck! And to those down for September, you can achieve so much in that time, it'll blow your mind.

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Hey everybody,

I'm drilling some Cambridge MSS questions and Im having some trouble with the idea of them. I think of them as "Must Be True" questions, even though I know that we are looking for conclusions, but for some reason, JY's videos don't seem to help me, and this particular problem threw me for a loop. Can anybody explain their particular methods for solving these? I've learned a lot from people telling me their methods, and in particular, can anybody explain this problems? The explanations I've read on Manhattan's LR forums and Kaplan's explanation aren't helping... (To give further context, out of ten of these questions, I'll probably get 8 right, and 6 of those right ones will be due to POE since for some reason, my prephases dont come out right...)

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Last comment tuesday, jun 03 2014

Reading Comp. Bundle

Hey 7sage admins,

You should create a Reading Comp Bundle (conclusion). If you create a Reading Comp Bundle, I would buy it. I also think many others would be interested in buying a Reading Comp Bundle as well. Furthermore, the creation of one (referential phrasing to the Reading Comp Bundle) has the potential to generate more revenue for your site. Again, please create a Reading Comp Bundle.

Your most loyal 7sager,

Bret

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Last comment tuesday, jun 03 2014

Doing Logic Games Sorted

Hi, I'm currently in the process of solidifying different categories of logic games problems i.e. basic linear, advanced linear, etc. and I'm doing problems culled from the Appendix of the Powerscore. However, I realized 7Sage also has logic games sorted from PT 35-50 https://uploads.7sage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/logic-games-sorted-by-type.pdf and the terms used for categories differ from those of Powerscore. For example, Powerscore distinguishes games by calling them basic linear, advanced linear, grouping, combination, etc. whereas 7Sage has In/Out, Sequencing with Twist, etc.

In this case did you guys go through all the different categories in both Powerscore and 7Sage?

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So,

"H will go before J if and only if it is after M." is a biconditional statement...

and is broken down into two different conditions, right --

M- H - J

or

J- H - M

If I wrote just " H will go before J if it is after M"

I would have " M - H - J " with H being before J because it is after M

But if I wrote

"H will go before J only if it is after M"

How does that give me J - H - M?

I'm somehow drawing a complete zero and a blank!

What am I thinking wrong?

I just feel like H is not before J in that translation at all...I'm lost and I don't know how or where to get out.

Thank you

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I was just looking at the explanations for some of the logic games from preptests in the mid 60s and saw how there's been a trend in the last few years of emphasizing the use of xor/exclusive or/negated biconditional in logic games (a is before b or before c but not before both). Since I don't have access to the very most recent preptests (2012-2014), I was wondering if there have been any other such changes to question patterns or emphasis on the LSAT, particularly in LG. Anyone have any thoughts?

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Hey guys, what's everyone planning re: their prep for the final week? I'm going to continue on business as usual, writing PT 70 tomorrow, PT 71 Thursday, and PT65 on Saturday, with review days in between. I find that if I take a full day off prior to writing a test I don't do as well, so I'm going to review as I normally would this Sunday.

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Non-math major here. So I found out that one of my biggest weaknesses in LR questions is the question type which deals with percentages and averages. I always sucked at math and thinking in terms of percentages and averages does not come naturally to me. Should I break out a math book and review? What do you guys do?

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Last comment monday, jun 02 2014

1 Week Out

Hi guys, so I'm sure all of us writing June 9th are starting to get less and less sleep imagining the day we sit down to write this thing. For me this will be my very first (and hopefully only) LSAT, my question is how do I handle these last important days? I started prepping after my finals April 25, so I've had about 6 weeks of hard studying. I've progressed well in the limited time, starting diagnostic at 158, sat around the low 160s for the middle 3 weeks and then the last 2 weeks my PT have been 164, 166, 161, 168, 172 and 171, in that order. This is exactly where I need to score, hopefully avoiding the 161. I've saved prep test 68-71 to do over the next 8 days. How can I make sure I keep rolling, I feel like I'm starting to "peak", the LR answers are jumping out at me as correct and I have scored perfect on my last 4 LG sections (RC is the reason I don't score higher about -8 every time). I need this to last until the 9th, I cant afford to burnout but I also cant slowdown. Any suggestions for how to handle these final days?

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Another psychological tip for this section:

Unlike the rest of the LSAT, each question in this section is completely independent from the other. Therefore, it could be a little bit daunting to realize that all of your hard work doesn't "pay-off" for more than one single question. Moreover, the fact that you have to "start-again" 25 times and be accurate for all of these during 35 crappy minutes is a quite stressful thing. All of this invariably leads to one thing: over-anxious reading of the stimulus (since you don't care that much about the reading and the text seems to be on your way) and, on the other hand, over-relaxed/careless reading of the questions (since it feels like you're finally seeing the light and about to move on).

So here's a bit of a buddhist/dalai lama relaxing tip that some of you could use. Whenever you approach LR questions (specially those with long stimulus), try to tell yourself the story behind it. Actually USE body language to accompany each bloody sentence. So if the stimulus goes "Dogs tend to poo more in parks than in sideways" actually RELEASE the poop as you are reading it. And do not try to come up with a conclusion or a possible answer before reading the choices (except for the predictable questions that you should easily recognize if you're about to take the june thing) or at least don't over-emphasize that part. Read attentively and go through the answer options and READ THE OPTIONS with care, NOT with relief. This will help you avoid a lot of mistakes related to traps in the answer choices, and shell game traps where LSAT plants an idea in your head that throws you completely the other way.

Basically, strap your balls on while you're reading the text in the stimulus and don't release them while reading the answers (not just yet anyway).

Peace and good luck everyone!

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I have been studying by myself and my LSAT goal was a low 160s. I scored a 156 then 155 then another 155 and sense then my scores haven't been higher than 152... I know I can't get a refund and my game plan is to sign up here at 7sage to prepare for the next LSAT. Anyways this leads to the question is it better to not take the June test at all? Or should I give it a shot to get a feel for the test? Maybe if I feel confident and think I scored in the mid 150s I don't cancel my test score and I have that score in my pocket. You guys and girls here seem to know this test better than any other place on the internet. What do you think?

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-4-question-16/

Hey test-takers! If you have PT69, care to discuss this question with me?

Upon review, the flaw is glaring and answer choice (B) makes sense.

During the timed test, I chose (C) and now I still can't see why the author did not make that error. H/she went from "salespeople" (whole) to "salespeople in major health stores" (part). This was the reasoning used to the reach the conclusion, so why is it not right to attack it?

Thank you!

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Hey so as the title says, I'm looking for a study partner.

I ask for the higher score because I think it'd be nice to study with someone that has a better understanding than you. This doesn't necessarily mean I am looking for a free tutor or something though - I've actually got a tutor from TLS I'll be working with soon (and have worked with in the past). I've been studying for a while now, my last PT was 156 and this was months ago, during my school semester. I studied a lot during my last summer and into my school semester a bit (wanted to take in december) but didn't quite get the score I wanted on PT's so didn't bother writing in addition to getting caught up with school work that took precedent over LSAT studying so I did what I could to maintain.

I am again however, hoping to write in december. I think this time will be a lot better for me since I don't have to spend a most of my time figuring out what the hell I was doing in the first place, and can spend these months drilling - which is where the partner comes in. I think it'd be good for things such as LR (over skype) or discussing general strategies for the test.

If anyone scoring well would be interested, just reply below.

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