Hello all,

I was reviewing PT 77 S2 Q18 (link below) and was having a bit of trouble clarifying my thinking on it.

If an argument "fails to exclude" X, that means it does not explicitly rule out X, correct? This is different than "presumes" or "takes for granted" X where X would be an assumption the argument makes, right?

Am I thinking about this correctly?

Thanks for any help!

Link:

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-77-section-2-question-18/

So I got my score and ultimately got a 157. I'm bummed but...what can you do? I bought the 7sage starter and will be playing catch up on studying today. Does anyone have any tips? I have a goal of high 160's.

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Hi all,

For a school that you REALLY want to go to, how many optional statements would you do? All of them?

In my case, I am applying to Penn (I'm a bit above the 25 percentile for LSAT and GPA, so it is a reach for me). The school offers 4 optional essay topics: 1) standard DS, 2) 'Why X school?', 3) question about teamwork, 4) typical addenda question.

I am already planning to submit #1 & #2 in addition to my PS. The instructions say 'You may answer more than one essay topic if you so choose.' Of course no reason to answer #4 if unnecessary, but is it bad form not to come up with something for #3?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!

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Hey ,

I understand that we are going through different parts of our LSAT journey. This is why I wanted to know if anyone wanted to be accountability partners? If you live in chicago that is a plus because we can study together in person. If interested please message me.

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At the time, the LSAT was still on paper and so explanations for LSAT questions were scarce. This was to my benefit and it can be to yours as well. That means relying on the explanations of 7Sage should only be done after you've exhausted considerable effort trying to dissect the questions yourself, given the correct answer. If 7Sage's explanation doesn't make sense or you are curious to hear a question explained in a different way, well that's what a tutor is for! I'll add just one bit advice to that which I found in my research: learn and understand any vocab word related to argumentation that the LSAT uses, which you are unfamiliar with.

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Hi!

I have written and revised and looked at my personal statement what seems like HUNDREDS OF TIMES.

I don't feel comfortable sharing it with those close to me, so I was hoping that maybe we could do a swap! I was going through the PS curriculum here on 7Sage and it advises to have multiple people review your PS.

Would anyone be interested in this?

If you are, I would be willing to read yours and give you feedback as well!! Please message me! I'm looking for 4-5 people so I can have many people review it!

Thanks :D

I don't see how D seriously undermines the hypothesis. How do we know anything about the death of diatoms? For this answer to work, you have to assume that Antarctic diatoms die near Antarctica (why can't they move or float away, or the death shells float away?) Lastly, don't you have to assume that the sediment left by the death shells would be indicative of a population increase? Aren't life and death two totally different ideas?. How are we supposed to know that these are OK assumptions?

Take for instance A (just for the sake of argument, I understand that A is incorrect). I think A would work if you assume diatoms of today are similar to diatoms during the ice age. You would also need to assume that the "unusually large amounts of ferrous material" that does not exist today would not promote a further increase in their population today. How are these assumptions less reasonable than the ones needed for D to be correct?

I originally planned on taking the LSAT in December but since then have decided to push it back until June and upgraded to the ultimate package. I am hoping to get some advice on choosing the right schools to apply. I realize it is a bit early to ask this question but I already signed up for CAS on the LSAC website and my email has been blowing up from many different schools. I knew there were a ton of schools out there but woah the amount of emails I have received is a bit overwhelming. I have 2 main focuses in choosing a school. The first is a scholarship and the second is finding a school that has a program and/or clinic for child advocacy law or juvenile law. The first focus I understand will depend greatly on my LSAT score but also finding a decently generous school. The second focus is important to me because I would really like to find a school I can get involved in what I am interested in. I really want to help kids and plan to focus primarily on child advocacy, juvenile and adoption law. I have done a lot of research and have found a few schools that I have my eye on but I am curious if anyone knows of any schools with these programs. Or at least have any advice on how to narrow down schools. Is there a recommendation on the amount of law schools to apply to? I was granted a fee waiver and have already received application fee waivers from some schools so I wonder, if there is no fee then, would it hurt to apply to many different schools and see what kind of scholarships I receive? I have talked to some family and friends on the subject and I am curious what my fellow 7sagers think on the subject. Thanks so much :)

Hi there!

I was wondering if anyone in the Boston area needed a study buddy. I'm currently signed up for the February test, but don't think I've studied adequately enough, so I'll likely cancel my score and take the June test. If meeting in person doesn't work for you, I'm happy to call via Skype or another online platform. I'd ideally like to take one practice test per week (I don't have too much time as a full-time student), and I'd want to review questions together and maybe exchange studying strategies.

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Anyone recall any games with bi-conditional rules similar to Game 4 in PT69 and Game 2 PT56?

Also, if anyone happens know of any sequencing games that incorporate bi-conditional rules that would be helpful too.

Thanks!

If you're willing to trade personal or diversity statements with other 7Sagers, please comment below. Once we have some interested parties, we can PM each other and offer constructive comments. Good luck to everyone preparing applications for this cycle!

P.S. I'm interested in swapping. PM me your statements!

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Wednesday, October 14th at 8PM ET: PT62

Note:

Proctors: The two main proctors were Eckerd College students, both with good energy. The proctor running the test did a great job of keeping things going, answering questions and handling things.

Facilities: Auditorium of science building. Five rows of tiered seats/tables with enough room for about 25 students seated every other seat. Fortunately, we had fewer than 25, since the rest of the seats were cut-out desks that look really small.

Left-handed accommodation: Tables are perfect for lefties. They did have left-handed cut-out desk if necessary.

Noise levels: Quiet.

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Time elapsed from arrival to test: We were to arrive by 8:30. I was the second person to check in. No line or anything. I'd say about two-thirds of us arrived by 8:24. By 8:45, we were filling out forms and even with a handful of minor questions and a request to turn on more lights (which they did), the test started around 9 a.m.

Irregularities or mishaps: None

Other comments: All but about 6 test takers were female and I feared this could be a problem in the four-stall ladies room, but there was never any line, so we had ample time there (that was a big concern of mine!). Also time to hang out in the lobby and eat, drink and take a breather before going back in.

Would you take the test here again? Yes. Was very low key and stress free.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 2/10/18****

Correct me if I am wrong in my explanation.

*The kind of question this is:* Weaken

*CTX:* Local agricultural official gave fruit growers of District 10 a new pesticide that they applied for three years to their pear orchards in place of the pesticides they had used before.

*Premise(s):* during the three years, the proportion of pears lost to insects was significantly less than it had been during the previous three years period.

*Conclusion:* based on the results, the official concluded that the new pesticide was more effective than the old pesticide, at least in the short term. In limiting the loss of certain fruit to insects.

*What I am looking for:* Just looking for answer choices that weaken the argument. Maybe an alternative explanation as to why the pears lost to insects were significantly less than it had been during the previous three years period.

*Answer A:* Yes, this is the right answer. This is irrelevant and does not weaken the argument. There were less fruit being produced because the number of mature trees has declined of the past 8 years. Who cares. The argument is talking about the “proportion of pears lost to insects.” So, it doesn’t matter how many pears we started with, it’s how many of those that were lost to insects with the new pesticide.

*Answer B:* Not the right answer. This weakens the argument. Insect abatement programs were used in the last 5 years, and were successful. That explains why the pears lost to insects were significantly less than it had been during the previous three years period.

*Answer C:* Not the right answer. Over the past 5 years, the birds that prey on the insects that feed on the pears have spent more time in the district 10 region. Weakens.

*Answer D:* Not the right answer. Insects in district 10 that infest pear trees are water breeders, and access to water for them is shrinking. This means the insects did not get to the pear trees. Weakens.

*Answer E:* Not the right answer. It is saying the old pesticide is still in effect after it has stopped being used, so it may not be the new pesticide that is credited with eliminating many pear eating insects. Weakens.

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