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Hi,
I have went through the cc of 7sage a little bit ago, and are moving into the LG section of the cc. However, as many have recommended, I have been trying to incorporate LR drills while going through the LG section of cc. I have been trying to do drills in LR specifically focusing on question types but seem to still be getting a lot wrong even with BR. In addition, I have purchased the Loophole since many said the supplemental material helps a lot. I was just wondering on anyone's recommendations on how to study? (I can dedicate a majority of my time studying since I only work PT as well). (I also have not touched RC at all in cc yet) Should I work through the Loophole before continuing anymore drills on 7sage? Should I still try to go through LR and LG at the same time, or how should I work through both most effectively? Any and all advice much appreciated!!!
This was not a fun flaw question.
At its absolute most basic, the stimulus says:
Conclusion: Not X.
Premise: If we BELIEVED X -> Y.
The assumption here is subtle: Since not Y, not X.
But why on Earth would we make that jump based on the single premise we are given? Also, notice we are drawing a conclusion based on what would be true if we BELIEVED otherwise, not if the case it WERE otherwise.
Answers:
A. A true belief (X) can have bad consequences (maybe, not Y). In other words, the author is failing to consider the possibility that X -> not Y. If this is true, the argument doesn´t work.
B. The author establishes one claim to not be true, but where is the other???
C. Irrelevant, there are no motives mentioned.
D. No implication that the most negative outcome must occur.
E. There is no group of individuals being compared to another.
Would it not make sense to include this as its own section?
Hi all!
As the title suggests, I'm rather new to LSAT studying and just purchased 7Sage (grinded a little through PS bibles until I felt I wasn't understanding them very well). I've taken a diagnostic in Dec 2021, studied on and off until my real LSAT in April. I got a sadly lower score than I anticipated, but it encouraged me to invest in 7Sage and study differently.
With that being said, I just took another timed PT and scored a better one with still some big areas for improvement. I've already done the blind review.
What's the next step from here? Do I look for 7Sage content that tackles the topics I got wrong or go through question-by-question to work through each problem again? What has been most beneficial to you all when starting out? I want to be as effective and efficient with my time as possible as my tentative goal is to take the LSAT again in October.
I'll post my scores if it'll provide context :) (As an FYI, I haven't completely "learned" LG or RC yet and have spent the majority of my time thus far in LR.)
Thanks and good hunting to all!
I take the exam on Sunday and im in need of some last minute tips. I dont plan on taking another PT but I will be drilling and taking individual sections over the next 3 days.
How do I tackle 4-5 level LR questions? On the PT I just took I got every question right except for the 6 questions that were 4-5 level difficulty. I thought I got them all right but I fell for every trap answer ):
Any suggestions on increasing RC score a couple points? Even if it is new strategies / how to eliminate wrong answer choices? Im awful at this section and have not been able to increase my score consistently. The best I've gone was -6 but just now I got -11.
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Hello,
I was wondering if anyone knew more the less the frequency of Hybrid Games in the Logic Games section of the LSAT??
So out of 4 Games, how many are likely to be Hybrid games? All of them, half of them, maybe one?
As I was practicing the PTs offered here in 7sage, I noticed that pretty much every single Logic Game in the more current exams are a Hybrid of sequencing, matching, and grouping and all of them were quite elaborate. None of them were exclusively sequencing, matching, or grouping. Is this how the LSAT will be? All Hybrid? If so it's fine I just would like to know if anyone has any insight or previous experience.
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Hi all! I bought access to the full course, and saw that according to the course syllabus you don't start doing the PT's till you finish all the class material.If i study 40+hrs a week, that means I don't start doing PTs until at least week 7. I know we shouldn't spoil past real exams, but was just wondering has anyone tried incorporating PTs into their studying before finishing all class material? like taking one PT a week just to track progress or get a feel for the entire exam?
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Hi I just did a logic game in PT9 (S3 G3). I was wondering if you know of another logic game in the practice question bank that is similar to PT9 S3 G3? I would like to practice a similar game type under a different scenario.
LR- PTB.S1.Q1
Misread the question and u was stuck between two answer choices that I thought would be correct. I need to understand the main point for this question because it can lead to tricky answer choices.
Admin Note: Edited title. For LR questions, please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question."
For each drill question, it shows a "curve" for the likelyhood of someone with that score getting the question right. But im feeling a bit confused on what that exactly means. So if the black bar is at "135" for example, it means that someone with a 135 was likely to get that question right?
Hey, fellow law school applicants!
I'm currently in the process of preparing my law school applications, and I have a question regarding submitting multiple letters of recommendation. I have two professors who have graciously agreed to write me specific letters of recommendation for my top school choices. Additionally, they are also willing to write a more generic letter that I can use for all other schools I'm applying to. However, I'm a bit confused about the logistics of submitting multiple letters. I was hoping to get some advice from those who have been through a similar situation. Is it possible for them to submit multiple letters? If so, how should we go about submitting them to assure they don't get mixed up since I will be waiving my right to view the letters?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone! I am trying to do a big u-haul of how I approach LR questions. I am trying to have a heightened focus on accuracy and process over speed and results. I'd really, REALLY, appreciate it if someone could give me feedback on how I analyzed/broke down this question and the answer choices (I got it wrong the first time). Thanks a bunch!
Conclusion: Herniated disks and bulging disks could not be the cause of serious back pain for back pain sufferers.
Why?
P: Half of group 1 had these herniate disks and bulging disks, yet they did not experience back pain.
The argument fails to consider something.
Flaws I can see:
These are two groups of people, how can we conclude something based off of two groups with distinct differences (back pain sufferers vs non back pain sufferers)?
Perhaps there are other key differences that cause the herniated disks or bulging disks to cause back pain for actual back pain sufferers.
Answer Choices: The doctor's argument fails to consider the possibility that...
A) This has it really wrong. To make it work, I needs to say the following:
A factor that is in the presence of a certain effect (HD or BG and no pain) may nonetheless be sufficient for a different effect (HD or BG may be enough to produce serious back pain).
This is not what the answer choice says, though. Also, how do we know that HD and BD do not NEED to be present in the circumstance where back pain is present?
B ) Yes, though worded in a way I did not expect, perhaps a third factor and herniated disks and bulging disks all cause serious back pain. This matches the flaw #2 I have above.
C) . This AC has the argument flipped and is assuming the error in the argument- that is the fact that perhaps the herniated disks are present and contribute causally to back pain.
D) This is not the flaw. So what if herniated disks might not occur in half the entire population? The flaw is that they are erroneously concluding something about two different sets of people (back pain vs non back pain and what causally contributes to both).
E- The error is not in the comparative likelihood of herniated or bulged disks' presence when there is pain vs when there is no pain. The flaw is that nevertheless, they are assuming that even if (imo) there are herniated disks present when pain is present, the pain is not caused by the herniated disks. Perhaps herniated or bulging disks and a third factor all together cause back pain.
Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-4-question-19/
I am performing pretty well when I take the sections individually, but I am not doing so great when I take the entire PTs. I find it that I get 2-3 (sometimes even 5) more wrong per section when I take the entire PTs. If anyone had similar experience, how did you overcome this? What helped you the most?
In case it helps, for the past month or so, I have been doing and reviewing at least 3 sections everyday (not necessarily from same PTs though). If I don't have time to do a full section, I would do at least 1 full LR and 2 games and 2 passages. This approach has been helpful, so I get used to "switching" modes.
Hi! I'm looking for a study buddy in Montreal (planning to write the coming September exam). Feel free to leave a comment or message me if you'd like to study together/stay accountable!
How come when looking online at certain LSAT prep websites, some sites appear to incorrectly state that there are 5 sections on the LSAT including 2 logical reasoning sections and 1 unscored section? I thought that even the old version of the LSAT only had 4 sections as well, but the difference was that the double section was predetermined to be logical reasoning and now the double section differs depending on the test you take. I’ve never heard of there being an LSAT with 4 scored sections and 1 unscored… This fifth section is also not listed as the writing prompt as that is listed separately from the unscored section on these sites.
If drilling takes over the problem sets, (aside from few of the most recent PTs) I will not be able to take all 4 sections of any PT without some questions being spoiled, assuming I've done all drills. Therefore, if I took all 4 sections of PTs, my score would be inflated. On the other hand, if I took the 'simulated modern' version, PT 45 and onward would not be spoiled and my score would not be boosted, giving me a more realistic score. But I have heard it is good practice to take all 4 sections. So what should I do then?
Hi Everyone!
I am looking for someone to take 1 PT per week and review together via Zoom until the August LSAT. Ideally I would love to review on a weekday or Sunday evening (after 5:30pm EST). For reference, I am aiming for a 168-170, and am specifically trying to improve my speed in Logic Games.
Let me know if you are interested! (:
Hi everyone!
Was curious to know if anyone has tried the fool proofing method for LR/RC and their results. If people have tried it, have you see a significant improvement in your LR/RC score?
Is anyone currently using Powerscore? I need access to the recording for the Revisited Crystal Mini Ball for June 2023 and was wondering if someone could please share that. Thank you.
I'm looking for 1-2 people to BR the LR and/or RC section of full timed PTs. I'm scoring in the 150s and looking to score 160+ on the August Flex test. I'm planning on taking 3 PTs every week and doing BR in the evening. Looking for people scoring in a similar or higher range and available to review on one or more of the days (MWSaturday).
Current student in Philly planning on taking the August LSAT, practice test-ing in the 155-160 range looking to get up to 170+ range. Let me know if you're interested, and also preferred method of communication. Thanks :)
Hi 7Sage Community,
I would love to get some advice on how to study once you have run out of practice tests. I have been studying for about a year and have 3 clean PTs left. I am taking the June exam, but also am planning to take the August exam (just to be safe). Does anyone have advice on when to use those clean PTs and how to utilize old PTs effectively? Thank you!
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