LG was by far my worst section (-17 on cold diagnostic), and now that is at a -6. I was planning on finishing LG, but these "in-out" games seem to rely on previous lessons in LR (I assume), is it time to pivot and do LR then come back to LG?

Also, how often do these pop up? I've done 3 PTs and never had one, just seq, seq twist, and grouping.

After 1 year+ of studying for the LSAT, I feel devastated. I just recieved my October LSAT score - 162. In January I got 162 (cancelled) -> 160 in September (cancelled) -> and now 162 again. I thought I could get at least a 165 and feel at a loss because clearly I haven't been studying right for the past year.

I am almost done with my law school applications and intend to apply in the next two weeks. Is it even worth registering for the January LSAT? I'm not sure how much I could improve by then and it would more be for the purpose of having a better score if I was waitlisted or for scholarships... Also, I'm abroad currently so can only take the January international exam.

I am SO done with this awful exam. BTW I am a split scorer - 3.92 GPA and 162 LSAT. I want to get into a T14/20.

What do I do now? Should I just give up and apply with my 162 and hope for the best? I genuinely don't know how I can improve and I just feel like I can't get this test right.

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Hey guys! So I started with a diagnostic of 147 and have managed to pull my PT's up to the 163 ish range currently. Do you think it is possible at all to score a 168 or 169 by the time I actually take the test on Nov. 9th? I am usually getting about 21/28 on RC, 20-21/25 on LR and 19/23 ish on LG depending on the test. I will keep a 163 or better, but I am trying to attend UGA and have heard that I really need a 169 or better to ensure I get in. Thanks!~

So,

I have been studying had for 2months, and I think I've done decent. I've got my self to a 165-168 range constantly. But this progress seems to have forzen over the last 3 weeks with me being locked in that range. With the mode being 167.

I'm constantly 0- -2 on the LG, -3/-5 RC, and always fucking -6 on LR. I used to be worse on RC, but that improved at the cost of the LR.

I think I may be struggling with LAWGIC, I'm not entirely sure. The def suggest I'm getting SA and NA wrong, 1 or more of each per test. but the rest is just all over the place.

FYI, I've done the loophole, which IMO did nothing for me. I've done the 7sage CC.

Any advice for a 2 3 question bump on LR by exam date. I'd love to crack 170, however doubtful.

Is taking the LSAT in January and submitting my application materials too late for the Fall 2024 class?

I have been out of college for some time and really do not want to put off law school any longer so any advice is greatly appreciated. I understand it would put me at a disadvantage compared to those applying before thanksgiving but do I still have a decent shot if I score in the high 160's? I have backups that are decent in the T50s and below but ideally I would like T30 and above.

Prep Test A Section 1 Question 21

I was stuck between answer choices C and E for this question but am having a hard time fully understanding why C is the correct answer. Would appreciate an explanation! #help #feedback

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Hi, I was wondering how I can gain access to CC v2? Also I'm 60% done with the LR curriculum on CC v1 and I'm wondering if I should make the switch to v2 now or if I should reference v2 as a refresher?

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Hi,

I have a quick question about an issue I encountered. I took the September test with no issues online with an approved writing but received an email about a score hold 2 days before release date. I emailed them asking why and they sent me an email with a generic answer and survey asking whether I used a VPN, took the test at home, and what materials I used to study for the LSAT. They aren't telling me anything else so I was wondrring if the unplugged team has seen these situations and what I should expect. I don't recall any possible issues with my test session so I am hoping this is first time taker high score hold. Are there more incidents or a high score hold or simple miscellaneous security issues from such a score hold?

Any information about score holds would be appreciated.

Thanks!

probably a really stupid question.... But are there going to be more test dates in 2024? Right now there is only Feb, april, and june? If there are more test dates to be offered, when will they be posted? thanks.

I am trying to put In my scores but it won't let me put in both my logical reasoning sections. Do I only need to put in one of my logical reasoning sections?

My post 2007 PTs that I haven't touched now has LR questions used. This only happened when I switched to V2, can this be fixed?

Hey everyone, I've been reading and seeing some of the discussions and I've been seeing so many posts of people feeling very discouraged, sad, and I want to share advice to you guys that has helped me fight through this test. Something that I understood was that this test is not only testing my skill, but from several YouTube videos, articles and reddit threads it hit me that not only my skills are being tested, its me as a person, my discipline and confidence. I watched so many videos on how to study, how to prepare, and yes, the cringe advice of sleep and eat healthy will help, IT WORKS!

So, to go down the list that I have added to my study routine let's start with the first thing. (if you're able to do these things, hopefully they help you! I know not all of us are in the same situations, but making small tweaks to your routine can help)

Fix your sleep schedule. Please, it's not worth it to stay awake studying until 3:00 am, so the next day you wake up and start studying again you're falling asleep. Your sleep schedule impacts so many aspects of your life, respect it! You'll feel so much better.

Eat as healthy as you can. Not meaning to go in a diet, eating healthy its not targeted for weight loss. There are foods that make you feel sick, and bad, and they do not provide any benefit other than make you feel bad! I started meal prepping, and I started to check out all the foods that make me feel bad, because yes, you feeling exhausted, bloated, sad, can be distracting. I'll use myself as an example, I drink a to of water, like a lot. I am lactose intolerant, and also, allergic to gluten! I still eat some dairy, but its only cheese, and I try to find a cheese that its not as processed, and I found some great affordable options. Gluten, I don't eat as much foods with gluten, so that's not a problem. Right now, I am in the process of cutting off sugars (I won't at all, I love my lil treats) but my sugar consumption isn't as high as it used to be. And most importantly, caffeinated drinks. They give me anxiety, and I have enough, so I don't need stuff to accelerate it. Try to find foods that will make you feel energetic, that will give you enough carbs so your body can have the enough energy to LIVE! Another thing is that, I cut off foods that are high in sodium, it makes me feel sick, and in all honesty, I don't want any distractions on test day, my stomach can be one, any pain, gas, etc can be distracting, with anxiety I feel all my nervousness in my stomach (something that I am working on) but also, try to feel and eat clean. Find foods and make combinations that have a lot of nutrients, you'll feel so much better.

Create a routine. If you're able, I understand life can be hectic and some of us have more responsabilities than others. I am still working on my routine. Currently I have no responsibilities other than my dog. I was able to quit my job for a while, but I made the decision to push my test date so I could work, and study and don't feel super pressured. For me, I study for 3-4 hours daily. No more than 5h+. Allow yourself to have breaks during your study sessions, but no, the break doesn't mean grab your phone and go on TikTok. Means, go outside, or walk around, drink water, stretch, have a snack, go look at the sun idk. Personally, the routine has been making me feel so much better, and I make sure to give time to everything I needed. I'm also very flexible, life is not linear, but you will feel way more confident if you complete smalls tasks through your day.

CLEAN AND BE ORGANIZED. I can stress this enough! My aunt is a psychologist and she always told me that my spaces look like my mind looks. If my car was messy, my room was messy, it meant that I was and most of the time, I was going through something. I organized my room, cleaned my desk, my closet, and created a space for myself, to study, to write, to focus. I keep my car clean, and I try to keep as clean as I can, and of course I have fallouts, and it gets messy, but cleaning it, and seeing how nice and cleans looks encourages me to keep it that way. and I also feel better. I totally understand that not all of us are able to live in clean conditions, and have our own spaces, but if you're able, I recommend going to your public library, and good news! you don't spend money (bc yes, Starbucks isn't always the right place to study). You need a quiet space to be able to focus! and they also have some LSAT study books with resources for FREE, so you don't have to buy the books all the time, you can borrow them! (also, I looked up the power score bible books on FB Market and found even on $20 dollars each book).

Exercise, or just MOVE! Walk around, move, workout doesn't have to lifting weights (but they are amazing to help you focus, they had helped me so much to learn how to focus) it can be going down the stairs for 10 min, walking your dogs, using bags as weights, or simply do some stretching there are amazing 10 min stretch videos on YouTube to avoid back/neck/hip/waist/ pain. No need to go the gym (but if you can, slay girl yesss!)

pls, please TURN OFF YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU STUDY! ITS A DISTRACTION. My phone played a huge role in my waisting time! and yes, it cluttered my mind. I realized that how many information I was putting into my brain at 6:00 am, by watching TikTok or reels, and just all that content and all the emotions I was feeling, bc yes dog videos can make you emotional and then seeing a funny video and laugh, like going from sad to joy in 7 seconds its not normal, your brain needs time to feel all these EMOTIONS, and process them. I now only have one form of social media, and I am able to do other things to distract myself, and even DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, like we should learn HOW TO GET BORED AGAIN! Yes, those 5-10 minutes you spent just staring at the screen not doing anything important other than mindless scroling are not good for you. Get away from your phone and learn how to control that desire of always wanting to be distracted. Read a book before you go to sleep, 10 pages you'll go to sleep even faster if you don't like reading.

You'll not only feel good, you'll look even better. Studying for the lsat, if you choose to take care of yourself can come with a glow up. It took me a while to realize that this test could also make me a better human. I stopped seeing it as a test that was going to change my life, but an opportunity to be a better version of myself, because, you learn a new way to think, you're more agile, your comprehension skills are better. You are just getting better at being yourself. You are already smart, you're just insecure and afraid. Those thoughts are blocking you, because you are the only person that its stopping you into becoming an even better human, than you already are. I wasn't thought how to be a disciplined person, but I learned how to, and also a part of high school taught me how to because other conditions that are private. But it takes just one small thing to accomplish so you get everything done. Getting a low score in your diagnostic doesn't mean you won't have a huge increase, it's NORMAL. going down 1-2 points, ITS NORMAL. But it all depends on how you see it.

On the reading Power score LSAT bible, in chapter two in one corner says, "A positive attitude perhaps its the most underrated factor in LSAT success. Virtually all high scoring students expect to do well on the LSAT, and that this mindset helps them avoid distractions during the exam and overcome the adversity they might face" it also says, that "This upbeat mentality is something that all high-scorers embrace, and its something that you should strive to establish from the outset, as well.

It's not worth it to study and beat yourself up because you don't understand, stress is mind blocking. Don't block your mind, don't reject yourself, give yourself days to catch up on study in your schedule for me it was every Friday. Give yourself a break and don't say no to yourself. No one is going to make you reach a higher score. Hours of studying, tutoring, and obsessing won't matter if you're not in the right state of mind. Something I heard a lot from my LSAT professors is that, this is like learning on how to ride a bike, you fall so many times, and you get frustrated, and when nothing is working, you STOP, and BREATHE. you clear your mind and all of the sudden you're riding that bike, because unconsciously you found balance. If nothing is working, stop, relax, hug yourself, drink water and strike again. Be kind to yourself and remember, there are so many benefits from taking this test, its not about the score, its about what you learn, don't listen to trolls, statistics, or OTHER PEOPLES LIMITATIONS, they're not yours. and most importantly, don't be discourage and learn to separate yourself from the commentary. I love 7 sage, and I know some people here say stuff like, this is as hardest as it gets on the LSAT (when explaining some of the games) or saying, this is a stupid answer to pick. You're here to learn. You're not those words, there are people that can get extremely discourage from hearing this words, and NO, its not as hard as it gets, for learning there are not limits, I am extremely effective when doing some of the hybrid logic games, but when it comes to the simple sequencing I over think. Words are important, and it's just as important to learn how to control your mind. Some people might say that "realistically" the lsat is hard, or that you need to look at things realistically, but to me that word has never existed and it shouldn't for you. Life is amazing, and yes, life has different situations, and complications as you don't know mine, so, don't be angry or say, "oh she doesn't know hard work" or "she has no responsibilities" or "my life is hard", and like I said, I have also a life, relationships, and they were difficult, and once I learned how to calm my mind, because I realized that 80% of the reason that I was miserable, it was my mindset that made me miserable. (and yes, it can be like that) others, simply live in uncontrollable conditions, that affect them, but if you're studying for this test, and reading this, I hope you find something here that can bring to you some peace, or an answer, or courage. you're already brave enough when you made the decision to take the LSAT.

*sorry for the typos, or grammar errors, I got to excited and English is my second language so yes! I can't always type as fast as I think.

Thank you guys (3(/p)

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I answered C for this question and cannot understand why C is wrong. It seems to me like it parallels the method of reasoning and the wording very closely. Can anyone help?

Also, it would be great to only have questions with access to a correction when drilling, it's very frustrating to not know why we got certain questiosn wrong...

This is more of a journal entry for myself as I get closer to test day. Hopefully someone can use some of these!

LG - My worst modality. I wish that I had listened to people from the beginning and just drilled it over and over again. I am really coming to appreciate that mastery simply takes time. If you're new, watch the LG core videos, and then just use the dill auto builder to focus on your worst game types. That's what I am doing now, but I am concerned I started a little too late. I know that my worst games are group-types and Misc. (obviously). So I have been doing 5-10 games a day, with at least one timed section. It's definitely helping.

I listen to the Thinking LSAT Podcast when I'm waiting for new episodes of the 7Sage podcast to come out (prioritize 7Sage's podcast- it's much more practical). One of those dudes said that when he does a LG section, he simply takes it one game at a time- he doesn't watch the clock, he doesn't worry about the next game, he doesn't think about a game that he skipped (if he skipped), he simply gets one perfect game, followed by a second perfect game, followed by a third perfect game, and if time allows, he does a fourth perfect game. It sounds a little silly, but I noticed that my biggest LG score shaker is my perception of time. Not time itself, mind you, but how I feel more and more anxious as the clock is ticking down, knowing that I likely have a harder game up next. I stop focusing, which kills my ability to do the basics- understand each rule, choose an appropriate board, split prudently, don't lose track of rules throughout the game. When I take timed drills outside of PTs, I am relaxed and smooth. I get somewhere between -2 to -4, which is acceptable to me based on my goals. But during PTs, I'll see -5+ consistently. That's the equivalent of almost an entire game. If I had taken 33 minutes to do 3 games, and then guessed on the last, I would probably do better. But I leave points on the table throughout the entire section.

The takeaway is this: do one game at a time. When you do a game, that is it. Think about nothing else. Don't think about how this simple sequencing game should take you less time. Just think about the sequencing game. And then spend more time drilling those games that are slowing you down or causing you to miss points.

LR - In one of the 7Sage podcast videos, Henry says that if you want to get better at RC, do LR. In my experience, I would agree. You're strengthening your reading comprehension and critical thinking ability, one bite-sized chunk at a time. The core videos are again very helpful, but what I noticed is that after doing a few of the full courses for the various question types, you start to feel way more comfortable with all of the types. Spend the time to watch those videos and do the accompanying drills, and you'll see increasing returns with every question type you study.

RC - I have always been pretty good at RC. I think I got a -4 on my first diagnostic, and I will regularly see -1. I don't have as much advice to give, because I feel like I haven't really improved much beyond understanding what the LSAT is looking for. I would suggest being able to paraphrase every paragraph to yourself before moving on. If you can't do that, I wouldn't move on.

General wisdom - There was a period of about 3 weeks that I was trying to get in 4+ hours of studying a day in, plus work, plus the gym. Although I was allotting myself time to review PTs, I simply wasn't allowing my brain the time to heal and absorb new concepts. I was taking a PT every 2 days- test, review the next, test again, etc. That pattern was not conducive to my learning. I have backed it off to 1-2 PTs a week, and spending the rest of that time on focused drills.

Thank you for reading my stream-of-consciousness post.

Hi everyone, just wondering if anyone has tips on how to simulate the flex on Lawhub website. I want to get used to the interface but also since I'm just taking the flex, I don't want to do the whole 4 sections. (if theres no option I will - but just want to ask in case someone has tips on this) :) thank you!

On the other hand - has those who only practiced on the 7sage preptests interface to take the flex had any difficulty with the Lawhub interface during the exam?

I have been studying since June and just completed a practice test with a score of 144. I'm so discouraged and feel like nothing is working. I'm feeling like the test has gotten the best of me. Any suggestions or anyone who has been through this? It seems like my accuracy has gone down with the more I've been studying

PT5 Section 1 Q15

Does anyone have any insight into this question? I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what the prompt is asking. Is the correct answer a possible argument that M will make?

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I have a question regarding a logic game. The rule says that S has to be the SHORTEST of the five.

So, why is B correct, as S is listed in the third position not the fifth. May you please advise?

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Why is AC E incorrect? The stimulus says "for any one of instance of reproduction, a given female will use only one of the two methods".

Hello everyone! I just scheduled my November 2023 test date through Prometric and had a few little struggles, so I thought I'd share them and hopefully it will help you when signing up for test date.

I signed into my LSAC account about 10 minutes early and immediately clicked on scheduling. Do not wait right until the "allotted" scheduling time opens!!! I was early and still 260 in the queue. When I got through and imputed my desired date to see the available time, I selected one and hit "reserve time slot," but no confirmation text was sent. I found out that there were about 1.5k people in the queue, so it made sense that things were slow, but I started to panic. I decided to just call the Prometric help desk phone number and after a long wait of 20 minutes I was able to talk to someone. They confirmed that it does not look like my selected time was reserved and they helped me schedule my test. They were pretty helpful and quick.

So, basically enter the queue early and when in doubt, call Prometric!

I am finding that as I have been trying to increase my score and doing more practicing and studying my pt score keeps consistently going down two -to three points and I feel like I never can get above 150 I do not know why I can't seem to improve does anyone have any advice for burnout on the LSAT.

I'm working on my apps right now. One school is asking "Have you ever been cited, charged, detained, taken into custody, or arrested for a violation of any law, statute, or ordinance, regardless of the outcome of the case? Please note this includes traffic offenses for which the penalty was a fine actually paid of $200 or more"

I have received traffic offenses, but I cannot remember if they were fines that were $200 or more. Anyone know how I can check this? Or if I should just state yes/no.

I am looking through the syllabus on v2 format and I don't have access to the logic games anymore. Is that occurring for everyone? #help