I took my PT. Then the next day I BR'd it and then I fool proofed the logic games until I got them all correct and at a decent time.

Is reviewing your PT a multi-day task?

Hi everyone,

I'm a current junior in undergrad studying English (major), Government (minor), and Africana Studies (tons of course work). At my school I'm also a Mellon Mays fellow and my research is in comparative Caribbean literature. I want to get a PhD someday, in either English, African American studies, African American literature, comparative literature, or Sociology. But I ALSO really want to get a JD and become a law professor, teaching critical race theory.

Previously I had planned to 1. go to law school, 2. work at a firm and pay off my considerable undergrad debt (around 80k) and whatever law school debt I may have then 3. think about becoming a law professor. And then later in life I'd get my PhD and become a regular undergrad professor. Or maybe I'd get my PhD before becoming a law professor.

Now I've gotten enticed by joint JD/PhD programs, especially Northwestern's, which is fully funded. But the catch about having to go directly into legal academia and research, and not even being able to think about working at a law firm, gives me pause. I just read a forum about someone at who did Northwestern's JD/PhD program and not being able to find a job, which really alarms me because I need some way to pay off my undergrad loans. Going to a joint program for six years and not being able to find a job is something that can't happen to me.

So, where should I go? I've been studying for the LSAT for 3 months now (and haven't really gotten anywhere) and plan to study as long as it takes. I also plan to take a gap year or two between undergrad and and the JD or join JD/Phd program. I plan to write a thesis next year, and for anyone wondering, I am definitely not thinking about solo PhD programs right now. Also I'm not super in to research yet. Also, a lot of my professional and work/internship experience is in diversity, equity, and inclusion and I would like to go into that field someday as well. Also I can also see myself as a author (fiction, poetry, nonfiction) down the road.

So clearly I don't know for sure what I want to do yet. For sure, I feel compelled to go to law school and get that big salary. My undergrad loans weigh heavily on me and I'm cognizant of interest building up during the 3, 6, or 8+ years it takes me to get my degrees.

Any and all insight is much appreciated.

I assume it can't be the case 100% of the time, but as a rule of thumb, are the harder questions toward the end of each section?

For example, if I take a LSAT, can I anticipate that for LG the first two games will probably be easier than the last two games? And for RC, the first two passages will probably be easier than the last one/two?

This is good to know if you know you are going to struggle with timing and will need to triage to try to save the hardest for last.

I've started taking practice tests recently. I'm not a super fast reader so I have only been able to complete three of the four passages and their questions so far.

Do you focus on completing all of them? Or do you just accept that you won't be able to get through it all and just focus on getting the highest accuracy on 3 of them?

If I don't get around to answering all the questions, I just pick a letter of the day for the unanswered questions.

On 7S you can find explanations pretty fast for BR. Is it the same for taking PT's on LSAC?

I will be taking the online version so it would be great to practice with the actual test interface I will see on test day.

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Hello, I have a recommender writing me a letter about me serving in the church and some other things, I only wanted to send this letter to Liberty University and Regent University as they are both faith based law schools, For my letter description should I put the two schools name or say "use for faith based law schools" I really want to make sure both law schools see that letter. Thanks for answering in advance

I have seen a few posts here and on other forums about accommodation, didn't think much about them back then. But now as the July exam is within 2 weeks I have just found out what it really means: it means if you can prove yourself to be disabled/with learning disability/ADHD and whatnot, you get extra time in most cases. I learned about this from a friend who said, without awareness that I am studying for the lsat, that he would do fine because his parents got him a doctor's note so he could receive accommodations for the SAT, and guess what, for the LSAT as well.

It makes me really hurt and depressed, thinking about the many difficulties, intellectually and financially, that I had to overcame to prepare for this exam. I do not regret spending 1000+hours to master the logic and skills required for the LSAT, nor do I have anything against people with real disabilities, like if they are blind or deaf or have an IQ of 80. But for some others I have to admit that their actions seem seriously questionable.

Funny I thought this is a standardized exam. Does anyone think the same?

Hi! I was wondering if anyone would like to join a study group with me. I am currently aiming for the October & November cycle and would like to review LR/RC! Please let me know if interested :)

Any study groups in Toronto? Please contact me if there is one.

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#HELP

BR RC -11 LR -10 LG -5

PT RC -18 LR -15 LG -11

Under timed condition, I miss more than 5 questions than BR. I lost concentration during PT and did not remember what I just read. I have a LSAT in October and only two weeks left. I'd like to minimize the gap between the BR and PT.

I work full-time so my maximum study time is 5 hours per day.

Should I take 2 Prep tests per day under timed condition? or Should I take 25questions drills under timed condition?

Please advise me :(

Hi all - I hope everyone who took the September test received a score they are happy with/proud of. If not, keep going! I wanted to make this post to see if anyone had any information on disclosed tests for the 2023/24 cycle (i.e. tests where you get a PDF copy of the test itself, the answer key + your answers, and a score breakdown by section). I read on "manhattanreview.com" that the September test (along with November & June) would be disclosed, but there is no date on the article I read nor any link/source to back this up. If anyone has any info, please let me know! I know they haven't disclosed a test in a while now, but getting to review this test before my final October try would be great! Thanks in advance.

Hi, I started studying for the LSAT 14 days ago, ran through about a 1/3 of Mike Kim and did about 10% of 7sage's LG CC. I decided to just take a diagnostic today now that I'm at least familiar with the question types, and stupidly I forgot to check the "modern" box on the older PT I was taking, so I ended up doing 2 LRs. Well, LR is my biggest weakness it seems.

I got -2 on RC, -4 and -6 on the two LRs, and -3 on LG, equal to 165 according to 7sage. I'd imagine that if this were a modern test, my score would be different since there is only 1 scored LR section. Does anyone know how I can convert? I know that each of the 3 sections is weighted equally nowadays, not sure if this was the case back then. Was each LR 25% of the test, or were the two LRs together 33% of the test? Thanks a bunch.

As stated do I need to physically print out the exams for each PT I do blind review or is there a way to digitally “circle” choices I’m uncertain of when taking a PT online?

To clarify, using pen to set up fixed rules/board/pieces, and using pencil to work out questions and then erasing, instead of rewriting out boards multiple times.

I go back and forth and I’m undecided.

Biggest pro with erasing is that I finish games way faster. But those few and far between questions where having past question boards available to review is the only drawback I’ve encountered.

Anyone else have experience or thoughts??

Hi, I am a junior with a 4.0 and I am considering taking 12 credit hours for the rest of my undergraduate degree because my program requires a thesis and an internship and I am currently involved with family court research. All that to say, would it serve me better to take 12 credit hours (still full time) a semester and finish in the full 4 years to give me some breathing room for all the important stuff coming up or should I plan to cram it in to 3 semesters and take 15-18 credit hours even if it sucks. Basically, I'm wondering if admissions would look down on 12 credit hours on my transcript? Would several semesters of 12 credit hours look bad? What do y'all think? Would this answer c change based on the prestige of the school?

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Prep Test 40 Section 3 Question 1

So for this question, I initially had the correct thought process that brought me to B, but then I decided that B was a trick answer due to a previous question that I had in prep test 89, section 2, question 24. This was a weaken except question. The correct answer was C, because it said that most workers are paid much more than the current minimum wage, but C does not do anything to weaken because it does not specify by how much more workers are paid, so you do know if it is sufficient to affect the prompt at all.

I had the same thought process for Prep Test 40 Section 3, Question 1. The correct answer here is B. I understand why the other answers do not resolve the discrepancy, but by following the same logic for Prep Test 89, I do not see how this answer resolves the issue. If big budget movies often gross two or three times more than cost of production, how do we know from answer B that there are enough small or medium budget movies made to be greater than the big budget revenue? It is is the same language of "much more" are made, that does nothing for the weaken question, and yet resolves this question. Could you help me understand this?

Hi guys! I was wondering if anyone would be down to study together. I'm taking the October LSAT and it's coming up pretty quickly. I'd love to review with someone! Lmk, my schedule is pretty flexible but it'd have to be somewhere midtown, maybe like a cafe or something. I go to JJAY!

Anyone interested in a study group to prepare for the LSAT in october and november?

Is the cumulative GPA on the LSAC academic summary report out of 4.0 or 4.33?

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to ask for some feedback or how people have normally done this in the past. My exam is November 2023 and I really really want to apply this cycle. The score is released November 29th and I want to get my application in ASAP so how should I be prepping my personal statements, letters of rec, etc. and like for which school? Should I just have a general idea of what I'm going to get and target schools in that range?

I'd love to prep in advance and not scramble in early December, but it's hard especially when I don't even know which school I'm applying to...

Any insight would be great :D

Thanks!

Has anyone thought of taking the JD Next as more schools will accept it going forward?

https://www.spiveyconsulting.com/blog-post/law-schools-accepting-jd-next-fall-2024/. Or will scholarships be more tied more to those who take the LSAT?