For people who are preparing the LSAT and plan to take it after August 2024, that the original LG section will be replaced by an additional LR section, how is everybody utilizing the PTs? Since the PTs are past exams, they include the LG section. But LG will not exist in the exam anymore starting August next year. But if we simply skip the LG section when doing the PTs, our scoring will not be an accurate reference. What are people doing to overcome this?

Hi, please offer your advice! I have now finished LR and RC core lessons - I have no more lessons next. I have decided to take no LG August version, so still have -AMPLE- time to study. I am currently scoring in the low to mid 160's (last PT I scored a 164) and my dream score is 170+. I am extremely determined to get into a T6-T14 and have allocated the time to get my score where it needs to be.

My question is - now that I have finished all the core curriculum... what's next? Should I focus on drilling LR and then RC, work on my problem areas, then begin regularly PTing? Should I switch to books, then go back to 7sage in a few months? I have the Loophole book ready to read. Should I wait to consistently PT until the beginning of Spring to save my tests for when I'm more ready and closer to test date? Should I be focusing on drilling everday? Redo the lessons?

Really just asking what your next steps would be / what your study plan would look like. Any advice is helpful, thanks and good luck to you all!

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Hi, could someone please explain this question to me? I didn't understand the video.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-1-question-16/

I know there’s a lot of similar posts on here, but I was able to increase my score from a 155 on my initial diagnostic to a 171 on my first LSAT with 2.5 months of 7sage, so I thought I’d share which strategies helped me the most. Figure this will be most useful for anyone else out there who speeds through tests and reading, as that was my biggest Achilles heel.

History – I decided to apply to law school over the summer, in early July, so I was already very under the gun in terms of timing. I mapped out the studying and application process and decided that I would need to take the October and November tests, and could maybe take the January test to help get off a waitlist. That left me exactly 3 months until the October test. The first thing I did was order the Kaplan LSAR Prep book and then take a diagnostic test – which was a 155. Like many people, Logic Games was my kryptonite – I think I truly finished the first 9 questions before time ran out and guessed on the rest. I started studying via Kaplan, and started to pick up on the games a bit, it sort of helped, but not enough. I took a second PT via lawhub and got another 155, and was not feeling great about the progress so far. Then I spoke to someone who recommended 7Sage. I’d already been thinking something interactive and digital would be more helpful, specifically for explanation videos and being able to pay attention to what I did wrong, and so the timing lined up perfectly. With 2.5 months to go, I started on the 7sage learning paths and started triaging what of the syllabus I would be able to cover in that time frame. I was studying about 20-30 hours per week, and so I figured I could do most of LG (since that was my weak point), pick and choose my way through LR, and do the RC one if necessary (ended up being very necessary, which I’ll get to later).

I started with, and probably spent the most time on, LG. I think with LG, it really just comes down to reps. You can’t shortcut that. The more games you do, the more you start to memorize the inferences you have to make, and I could literally catch myself remembering an inference from a similar type of game mid-section. However, I definitely have a bias for speeding through things – a theme throughout my LSAT studying. I had to learn to slow down – practice doesn’t make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect. For me, that meant that I needed to stop and review each game (seems obvious but like I said I speed through things) and TRULY understand each inference, and make sure I understood each question (why the correct answer was right, and why the wrong answers were wrong). One thing I started doing towards the end was printing out 5 copies of each game I got a wrong answer on, and then completing them and reviewing each one in depth afterwards. This really helped, and if I could go back and do it again I would absolutely have done this from the beginning. I’d probably just start out printing out 1 star games early, move to 2 star games, 3 star, etc – and use this to supplement the syllabus work. This process allowed me to get to the point where I was consistently around -0, -1, 2. I truly learned to enjoy the LG section, and as weird as it sounds I think I’ll miss not doing those games every day. Sort of sad to see them go too.

Initially, I felt very solid around RC. It’s just reading right? But, like I said I have a tendency to speed through things. I eventually realized my scores were not improving, and I was anywhere from -6 to -9 on most PTs. That was when I dove into the RC syllabus, which absolutely helped change the way I looked at RC. But the biggest mindset shift for me was just slowing the hell down while I was reading. Shifting from finishing the passages in 1:30 to finishing in 3:30-5 minutes is what really helped. It felt like I was wasting valuable time that I could be spending returning to the passages to hunt for details and to rule out incorrect answers, but the scores just spoke for themselves. This way I was consistently able to get around -3, and there was just no arguing with results. I was better able to remember those details and where they could be found, and understand different perspectives and tones throughout. JY’s syllabus material about the low-res summaries helped a lot too – for me, when I first heard this, I started focusing too much on the detail of the passage in the low-res summaries, before shifting to focus on the argument format. Focusing on how the argument was structured helped me answer the questions around the main point and structure of the argument, and slowing down already helped a ton with finding the specific details. I also limited how much highlighting/underlining I was doing – I read somewhere online that sometimes we use marking up passages as a method of saying “I”ll come back to this later,” but when you’re reading a timed passage like this, you don’t have the time to do this. So I tried to focus on just reading, the only other thing I let myself do was write down the 1-2 word low-res summary. Also, RC is another area where reps matter a ton. I absolutely hated doing them everyday, but doing a few passages a day paid off. Doing entire sections at a time was too stressful to do daily for me, so I started doing one passage at a time (timed), and then 2 at a time, then 3 at a time. This got me much more comfortable with the timing (I would also time how long I spent on each passage just reading), and the volume helped me start to pick up on trends across passages. By the end, I was much more naturally acknowledging, as I read, changes in tone or who’s argument this paragraph’s is. I also think re-doing passages from PTs was a worthwhile exercise. I don’t think you can truly understand where you went wrong on an individual question unless you re-do the whole passage. Time consuming, but worth it.

LR was probably the section I spent the least amount of time on, to be frank. I used the syllabus to cover most of the question types (but didn’t really finish any of them after the first few). The biggest bump on LR for me came as a result of the changes I made in RC. Slowing down, and really engaging with each sentence of a passage made a world of a difference. Your work on RC and LR really aid with the other, so I guess the new LG-less LSAT will be at least a more focused study. I never struggled with time on LR like I did with RC and LG, and I found myself consciously forcing myself to slow down. When I realized how slow I could go, I started picking up on things I wouldn’t have otherwise picked up on, eliminating all 4 wrong answers (previously I’d speed through and eliminate 2-3 wrong answers and rush through, ending up with time remaining at the end). Reps were huge in LR for me too, just re-doing all of the PTs I did made a big difference. Like the rest of the test, there are trends in right answers and wrong answers they like to throw out. You really can’t beat just doing and re-doing hundreds and hundreds of questions.

As far as my testing methodology, I was extremely impatient and struggled with the blind review because I wanted to know my score so badly. Eventually I realized if I just looked at the score to satisfy that urge, I could then go set up each section as a drill and re-do it, and that was totally worth it. So, long way of saying blind review is great and totally works, I just needed to see the number, so I found a work around.

All in all, this is just what worked for me, I realize some of this may not provide much help to others. I think if you’re someone who naturally moves quickly through tests and has a tendency to skim while reading, this is probably more relevant to you than to anyone else. That’s the biggest moral of the story for me, forcing myself to slow down made a crazy big difference. Even if you don’t move too quick, the repetitions of the same games in LG will be helpful, that helped me speed up on some of the tougher games. So anyways, go slow, do a ton of reps, and review each wrong answer very carefully. And 7Sage is awesome. Hope that helps!

One last thing – don’t ignore the mental hurdles you go through. I bombed a PT 9 days before the October test and freaked out, felt like I was having a full blown panic attack. I realized I was studying way too much, specifically timed sections, and was just constantly stressed out. I took the next few days off, and didn’t do any more timed work before the test, and it turned out pretty well. So as much as you absolutely need to work hard and push yourself, when stress is really creeping in, take the time off. Do something fun and de-stress. I pushed myself HARD in those 2.5 months, and wouldn’t necessarily recommend it. My strategies were solid, but they would have been way better over 3-4 months instead.

Could someone please explain this to me more. Thanks!

Earlier PTs all have a skipped section. What's that about?

I am just curious about what kind of device the in person test is taken on now. Is it just a basic computer or something that I might not have much experience with.

Working my way through the CC, and right now on LG. Should I do the board setup and questions before watching the videos? It feels more active learning to me that way whereas just watching the videos would be passive, but I also don't want to take on bad habits. Any advice?

The only reason why I didn't choose D is because I thought M won't consider the renaissance era disruptive...please #help

Hey! I didn't get diagnosed with ADHD until my final semester of my undergrad. I graduated with a 3.1 GPA and was wondering if I should write an addendum explaining my diagnosis? My first semester GPA was a 3.0 (took all 100 level classes), second semester GPA 2.6, summer semester GPA 2.8, third semester GPA 2.3, fourth semester GPA 2.7, summer semester GPA 3.1, fifth semester GPA 3.0, sixth semester GPA 3.7, seventh semester GPA 3.6. I also changed my major after my second semester.

Looking for a study buddy in Korea to polish games down to -0 & get LR/RC down to consistent -2 before June.

I have a 2.0 cumulative LSAC gpa but my degree summary gpa is a 3.25. I attended previous institutions like community colleges and another four year school. I am currently a senior and I am graduating this spring 2024. I took the lsat last month and got a 140. I was hoping to get it up to at least a 150 on this upcoming January exam, but I feel like in my case a 150 wouldn't even help. I am feeling very discouraged and depressed about my overall chances of getting into any law school with this cumulative gpa. I didn't do well at all my first few years in college and I had to do some soul searching and figure out what I wanted to do with my life and these past two years I have improved my grades and overall academic trajectory. I know I could write an addendum and explain why my gpa is the way it is but I feel hopeless because its a 2.0. Can anyone offer any advice or wisdom for my situation.

I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the stimulus's support for [A] being the correct weaken answer.

I eliminated it because the skeptics never said that it was just the bottom layer that was contaminated; they just say "the samples were contaminated" so I thought that they were referring to the entire collection, which would include the upper layer. The skeptics never differentiated between the uppermost and lower samples for their hypothesis, so AC [A] doesn't seem to weaken their hypothesis at all.

How can I infer that they're excluding the uppermost samples in their hypothesis? Is it because the stimulus says that the uppermost samples are dated to the present and therefore couldn't have been contaminated by the old carbon?

Hi. I am an admission consultant specializing in college and graduate school admission for international students. I have dealt with many students from China. I think it is helpful to address a few talking points I see posted on forums on why international applicants have a disadvantage when applying to American law schools.

Hi, I've been studying for the LSAT since 5 months and I've recently broken into 150s. I always miss a game in LG, almost a whole passage in RC and 2-3 questions in LR, which is why I score much higher in my BR. I want to work on my timing and break into 160s by the Jan exam. Any advice/tips? #help!!

I wanted to share an observation and concern that has arisen for me while working through the Core Curriculum Version 2, specifically about the Drill Generator. I'm about 70% complete with the LR section of the Core Curriculum V2. I started after V2 was launched so its my only point of reference for studying with 7Sage. I have, for the most part, generated a drill at the end of each section as outlined in the Core Curriculum to test my understanding of each topic.

After looking at the 'Show Existing Drills' tab of the Drills page, I noticed the drills generated while going through CC have been pulling questions from PTs as high as PT 76. The only way I see to restrict what tests are pulled from is found in the Drills section of the website; I do not see a way to restrict what PTs the Drill Generator pulls from when the Drill is generated in the Core Curriculum part of the site.

My most basic question is what tests should be pristine coming out of the Core Curriculum? I realized today I don't know the answer to this question. Ultimately, it is not that many questions that have been generated off of these tests, but my observation is that it is not intuitive that the drills at the end of each Core Curriculum section are pulling from a large number of tests. By default, the drills in the CCV2 diminish the number of pristine tests available when we complete the curriculum, which seems to be in opposition to major tenet of proper LSAT prep.

Short version - What tests are we supposed to keep pristine while in/coming out of CC? Do you use the drills feature in the CC on the first pass or start drilling after finishing? Is it set up different in V1?

Thanks!

Okay so I have gotten above a 170 twice now, (171 and 176), which is cool and fun when I see the score, but should I pay attention to them in analytics? My average score is a 162, and with the exception of those two scores I haven't broken 165 in any of the 20 tests I've taken.

I finished PT 77 yesterday and left my screen on the Blind Review section for the night. After I refreshed the website again this morning, all of my progress was lost and the website is starting me again on section 1. Is there anything I can do to get my previous progress/attempt back?

Good Afternoon everyone!

I have my LR down to -4 on average but am not confident in SA and NA questions no matter how much I practice. Any tips on how to do them without diagramming? I get more confused when I diagram and do not find it helpful in the least.

Thanks!

Hi y'all. My struggle is timing, and I am consistently scoring between a 158-161, but I can't seem to break into mid and solid 160s. Any tips? I am shooting for the January LSAT with a 165.

With BR, I range between a 174-178, so I know that I've got the material down, but I think it's really just timing :(

Anything helps! Thanks you!

Hey, everyone.

I never thought I'd be back at square 1 again to redo this exam. I took it in 2021 and got a 154 which was a huge jump from my 137 in 2017. I started my first year at law school from 2022-2023. Unfortunately, since I was not eligible for any loans, I worked full time and overtime throughout my 1L to pay for tuition, and attended school part time. My grades suffered and ultimately my health, too. I was dismissed just at the start of the Fall 2023 semester with no permission for an appeal, though the school was aware of my financial circumstances, and the dismissal letter stated that I was 'facing significant non-academic issues that placed tremendous demands on [your] time'. I tried to apply to a few schools just a few weeks ago after I finally got over the initial shock of being dismissed and having a tarnished record, but none of them allow me to even put in an application for another 2 years after this dismissal. I signed up for the June 2024 exam to see if I can get a higher score, with the intention to try and apply again in Fall 2024 with the hope of returning to law school in 2025 [not my previous law school and ideally a higher ranked one]. Have any of you been in this kind of situation?

For the record, I am not a poor student, but I am financially poor. As an immigrant, I am not allowed to ask for loans. I have paid out of pocket for all my education and even relied on TAP for my undergrad and grad degrees. I graduated from Harvard University with a 3.25 for my Bachelors [took 6 years] and later on with 3.69 for my Masters [took 3 years], and I have 9 years experience as a certified family law paralegal. I'm currently self-employed as an educational consultant and I prepare legal documents for low-income clients with family law cases. My hope was that I would finish law school by my late 30s so I could still commission for JAG and help military personnel going through family law cases, since military and veterans are under-represented in family law courts due to stereo-types associated with their experience, careers, and health.

I'm not saying I'm a great candidate compared to others who already hold multiple degrees and other doctorates, or those with higher LSAT scores, but this dismissal is making me doubt if future law schools would even care to consider these circumstances in conjunction with my experience and note that I am not a bad student.

At this point, is it even worth re-taking this exam and starting from scratch?

Hello 7Sagers!

I'm looking for some tips to help improve my reading comprehension score. I am currently scoring around -12 which is of huge concern given I take my second LSAT in January. While practice is, of course, key to improving my RC score, I need to see lots of improvement in a relatively short amount of time. At present, I seem to be struggling the most with my speed. I take too long answering the questions, which indicates to me that I need to spend more time analyzing the passage. Perhaps some tips on low resolution summaries might help? Any insights would be greatly appreciated!

Hi All,

I am looking for 1-2 people who would be interested in free tutoring for an hour or two a week over the next two months. After what has been a valuable experience working with @Sami, I would love to use the opportunity to pass on and personally solidify the strategies I've learned. I am currently scoring in the mid-160s after seeing a 7+ point increase working with her. I've taken the actual test a couple times already and am familiar with the fun that comes with test day.

I am based in the US Central time zone with a very flexible schedule. Shoot me a message if you're interested! Thanks!

I have taken three practice tests now, and have gotten within the 163-167 range each time with similar trends. I am missing 3-5 LR and 3-5LG questions and then roughly 8-10 RC questions. I feel like RC is holding me back from my goal score of 168/170, but I am unsure how to approach my last couple months before the February test. Should I double down on LR and LG, or do my best to try and save a few points on RC by studying that even harder? I know that RC is generally the hardest section to improve on, and I dont want my time and effort to be wasted. Just want to make sure Im using my time as best as I can. Thanks in advance for any thoughts and advice, and good luck to everyone studying.

Need advice figuring out if I messed up on admissions lol. I took the November LSAT, and one of my top choice schools still accepted early decision applications with Nov LSAT scores, but the application would be submitted before you saw the score and populate with the score after. Flash forward to release day, and the score I got was one point below the school's median (1 point below 50 percentile, but above 25 percentile). The day after, I decided to sign up for the January LSAT to boost my score and since it's so close to the median for my goal schools.

I just checked on the status checker for my ED application, and noticed that it unchecked the CAS - No Future LSAT box. I know this is because I signed up for the January LSAT, but is there some kind of rule where you can't sign up for a later LSAT after your ED application has been submitted? I called the admissions office today to ask as much, and they told me to send them an email. But does this affect my application in anyway?