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This month I'll be in the region of a couple of schools I'm hoping to apply to. While I'm in the area I'm planning to visit the towns to get a feel for whether they are a place I'll want to be for a few years, and I'm considering scheduling a campus visit while I'm there as well. I'm taking the LSAT in September and as long as things go okay will be applying to schools this fall.

I've done some digging through the forum and it sounds like in general, the crowd here is supportive of pre-application visits. Any thoughts to the contrary?

Secondary question: What are some things I should be asking (of current students, of professors, of folks in the admissions office, of anyone else?). Who should I be asking to talk to? I have a short list of questions so far, but this will be my first experience going on a campus visit (I never visited my undergrad before attending) and have been out of school for 10 years so I'm feeling quite ignorant of the process and would love your guidance regarding what smart questions to ask.

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Hi all,

I have ADHD and some sensory issues, and I found something that really helps me with studying. Silicone earplugs! I have seen quite a few discussions about ADHD tips from years back and figured I should post this for people who are currently on the study train.

Here are the ones that I use. I found them at my local CVS: https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-ultra-soft-silicone-earplugs-6-pairs-prodid-457795

They have helped me so much with studying and taking practice exams. I find that the slight pressure in my ear helps me to be more comfortable and relaxed. It almost replicates the feeling of a nice weighted blanket. Additionally, they block out small noises that might otherwise throw me off of my rhythm.

Also, you are allowed to wear earplugs during the test. They are on the list of preapproved items (https://www.prometric.com/test-owners/resources/testing-accommodations-pre-approved-items, https://www.lsac.org/lsat/register-lsat/accommodations/accommodations-may-be-available-lsat) for both the multiple-choice and writing sections. The only requirements are that you show them to the proctor before the exam and that they are "non-electronic, non-corded/banded, and generic foam" (I am assuming silicone, a foam-like substance, is okay). You could use foam ones, but I find that the silicone ones stay in my ears so much better.

Hope this helped somebody.

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Hi! I am currently at a 156 average for the LSAT and I have the following questions regarding each seciton:

For logic games it is time, when I blind review I get it all correct but I really struggle in doing it all in the allotted time. I assume the best way to practice is by just doing it over and over again to get down on time? Does that make sense or has anyone else suffered the same issue and figured out a better way to do logic games quicker?

For Logical Reasoning I kind of struggle on just a random few ones each time -- So for those of you have increased LR what is the most effective way you find with studying for LR? Like should I just do all of the lessons or for time purposes are there one's you recommend over others? Should I do a bunch of practice? How many a day? Any advice would be so appreciated!!

And last for reading comprehension I am weirdly just so bad at these. I read everyday for my major so it really makes me sad that this is where I perform worst so really any advice on books or lessons or practice methods that most helped you I would really appreciate!!

Thank you so much in advance.

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I saw a question that said "What is the overall conclusion..". For these overall conclusion questions, is it best to choose the main conclusion, or to also include information from the other stimulus too? Thank you!

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Last week I scored a 179 on a PT in the 70's. The score completely blindsided me as my previous highest score was a 170 and I'd been scoring in the high 160's for the past three PTs. I am of course very excited about this score but I am panicking about maintaining it. I haven't taken another preptest since but I've been drilling logical reasoning in the 80's (old practice tests I took over a year ago) this week and my LR score is dropping significantly. I typically score -2 to -0 but in these early 80's PT's I'm scoring -4 to -6. I am panicking about my next PT score dipping back into the 160's. I need a 170-high to offset my low GPA and even though I know I should feel confident about scoring a 179 on a practice test it's honestly made my anxiety worse.

Can anyone give some advice on how to handle score drops in the 80's? I am taking the August test and feel like time is running out to prepare effectively. Also, any advice you can give on managing stress? This is the most stressed I've ever felt in this process and I've been studying for a long, long time.

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I am averaging -6 on LR after 7 practice sections (not doing full length tests yet) but consistently miss 1 or 2 of the first 10 questions (i.e., level 1s and 2s) and taking a long time to do so while breezing through the middle 10 questions of the test (then losing more points in the end, partially due to time lost in the beginning and partially because they are hard questions.)

Obviously, I’m planning to incorporate more drilling/reviewing CC to overcome this, but I was wondering if anyone had tips to warmup before a practice section or anything else to avoid brain fog in the beginning of the section. My goal is eventually getting to a 0 to a -1 wrong, but would probably be okay with a -2 depending on how the rest of the test went. Thanks!

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I took the June test on June 13, and while I was taking the last section of the test, the proctor abruptly terminated my test and would not tell me the reason for termination when I asked her but instead asked me to reach out to LSAC directly.

I immediately called the LSAC afterwards, and they simply told me to submit a test complaint via my account and wait for them to reply. After one day, the Office of Test Security replied by email that I was observed running an unpermitted software application, Cisco Webex, which violated section 16 of the Candidate Agreement (test takers are not permitted to operate or run any other software applications at any point during the testing session). They have cancelled my score and would not offer me a retest opportunity.

I promptly called the LSAC and again they told me to address my concerns by sending an email to the Office of Test Security, as they are solely in charge of handling test takers' complaints and cannot be reached by phone call! I had absolutely no knowledge that the app was being run. I made every reasonable effort to close open apps before the test, and I also believed any such app was already double-checked and closed by the proctors (there were two proctors in turn monitoring my test before the third proctor terminated it). So I wrote an email to the office as copied below:

In reference to your email regarding my June test complaint, the software application Cisco Webex has not been used or opened by me or anyone else on that computer for over six months. Before taking the test, I made all reasonable efforts as a general computer user to ensure that any open applications were closed. I distinctly recall the two proctors also double-checking and ensuring that such an application was closed.

Please provide proof that this application was actively operated on the computer. Additionally, please explain why, based on this proof, you were able to determine that any screen sharing or remote accessing might have occurred, potentially causing a violation of academic integrity. Furthermore, please clarify why, as a general computer user, I would have had any reasonable ability to know and prevent such technical issues from happening.

However, they basically dismissed my concerns, replying that they found it necessary to cancel my June 2023 LSAT score due to a violation of the Candidate Agreement, and I am not eligible for options in response to my complaint. They would not even give me any proof of their allegation!

I don't know what else I can do to raise my concerns and get a retest, other than giving LSAC a phone call and being dismissed by them again. I have prepared for this test for over a year in total and I am desperate to take the June retest (which is scheduled next week on June 21) because I probably wouldn't be able to test again in the near future due to my personal arrangements. If any of you have any advice as to what I can do now, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

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For question 22, I was between choices A & C and I'm having trouble reasoning why the answer is C.

A) These places also have laws about other aspects of bicycle safety.

This seems like it can be the correct answer choice because if these places have other bicycle safety laws, it makes sense that riding on the left vs not riding on the left doesn't impact collisions much, since they have other measures to combat collisions, or whatever. However, since it was outlawed, and assuming that riding on the left leads to more collisions, the collision rate only decreased slightly, since there are other laws protecting bicyclists' safety.

C) Police officers in these places do not enforce regulations that apply to bicyclists.

I understand this is the right answer because while some may have stopped riding on the left since it was outlawed, many did not because the police weren't enforcing this law, therefore, leading to only a little decrease in collisions (the people who decided to follow the law). However, the assumption in this seems (that bicyclists continue riding on the left despite being against the law) to be greater than the assumption made for A (that other safety laws can combat the rate of collisions in general).

Can someone explain?

Thanks

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Last comment thursday, jun 15 2023

Small Study Group

As the title says, I’m hoping to create a small study group for LSAT prep! I’ll be working on the test all summer (goal is Sep.), and think it’d be great to have a group of peers to encourage and assist each other while studying. In addition to generally helping each other with questions/etc., I’m hoping to, for example, sit in a call with someone while we quietly work on our own stuff. Another example is telling the group what hours you plan to study on a given day/week and then following up afterwards. This can help minimize distractions and gives a sense of accountability, which some people (like me) find really helpful.

If you’re interested in this kind of group, leave a comment and I’ll DM you!

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I am looking for someone to help keep each other accountable in doing early morning study sessions, and to overall just be there for each other through this insane time!

I am planning on taking the LSAT in either October or November, depending on where my score is by August! I was initially planning for the June 2024 LSAT, but am trying to motivate myself to prep for an earlier one, so if I want to take it again, I am not pushing it that much further back. :)

I have been feeling a little discouraged lately as I just took my most recent pt and haven't improved since my last score - so I am motivated to kick my prep into overdrive and work harder than ever!!

Let me know if anyone is interested and we can message each other through the inbox on the site to get the ball rolling :)

Good luck studying!

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Last comment thursday, jun 15 2023

"G must be in H only if.."

Hello! I don't remember what practice test I took, but I saw a different type of logic game question. It said something along the lines of "G must be in H only if..". I am only used to the "If G is in H, what must be true?" Does anyone have tips on how to answer the "G must be in H only if.." questions? Thank you!

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Hi everyone, quick question on which is the more accurate or more correct score to rely on after taking a Prep Test, specifically on 7Sage. I've been noticing that they give different numbers. For example, I recently took PT 80 and got -8 (93/101) for a score of 172. However, looking at the 7Sage Score Conversion Chart (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-score-percentile-conversion/), a -8 on PT 80 is a 170. According to the chart, a 172 would mean that I got -6.

Can anyone help explain this difference?

Thanks!

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Hi 7Sagers,

How would the following statement be diagrammed?

"The tornadoes in the area are not the only natural disasters happening in the country."

Does this statement have a useful representation using conditional logic? How would "not the only" be represented when diagramming a conditional statement? This was not pulled from a PrepTest, just something I thought of while going through the Logic section of the CC.

Thanks!

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Last comment wednesday, jun 14 2023

Reading Comprehension Help

No matter how many drills I do and how much I study reading I always get the same amount incorrect on all my practice tests which is about -11 and -12. My LR and LG are much less than this and I don't know how to get more right on reading. When I read the passages, I don't feel extremely rushed or even confused but when I go to review my test I just seem to get many questions wrong. Any suggestions??

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Does anyone know if the glass wall rule prohibits all glass walls, or is it acceptable to have one glass wall (or door with a window)?

Despite the option for in-person testing on the August 2023 test, remote testing still seems like the most risk averse option [considering the variable number of variables (pun intended) involved with Prometric centers]. With that being said, I'm having some difficulty finding a space that definitively meets all of the LSAC/proctoring requirements.

The private rooms in my office building have three solid walls and one glass wall, and the same is true for most study rooms at my university and nearby public libraries.

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Anyone notice the 7sage drills aren't showing the options that is usually shows on the top left or showing the question difficulty. I don't know if it the site itself or my laptop. I restarted and even used a separate browser and even logged out and back in but nothing.

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