Hi all,

I'm normally not one to reach out for help and put myself out there like this, but I think I need to for this kind of test. Originally, I thought I was going to set a schedule and get through this course and take the test all on my own, but life happens. I've been on and off trying to get through this course, and I've been working full time for almost a year trying to study at the same time. It's been challenging trying to stay on track, and I don't want to put off this test any longer. To be honest, I worry about the pace I'm going at and get nervous about taking PTs. I'm not sure how to tell how I'm doing or keep track of my improvements.

I'm looking for anyone who would be willing to have study sessions together and meet online to talk about lessons or share any tips on how you measure your improvements as you go along your studying. Since I work full time, I would only be able to meet after 5pm PT on weekdays and we can work something out on the weekends.

I feel like I am not using 7sage to its full potential, so I'm also trying to send out some Study Buddy invites! I'm not sure how this works, but please let me know if you're interested and I hope we can study together and tackle this LSAT!!

Hello,

Looking to build a small group. Aiming for January here. No rush. This group will have a shared google docs where we will upload our scores. We will track and target each other's weaknesses. I've designed a format that will evaluate the effectiveness of this strategy. We will also work on writing our own LSAT questions on reading comp. Lawd knows I hate that section to the bloodstream. We will also take full PTs virtually together. I'm no LSAT expert. I bombed my first test 150. I want to master consistency and discipline.

Hi, I'm newly graduated from undergrad and I'm really unsure of how to start studying for the LSAT. I had wanted to start at the beginning of this month, but I haven't started doing anything because getting a tutor or live classes is so expensive, but I would like the accountability that studying on my own wouldn't give me. I'd like others perspectives to know what works best? Self study or having a tutor/class? I would really appreciate some advice :/

Thank you!

So I recently started taking on the PTs in the 80s to practice the more recent content in preparation for October. I started with PT83 earlier this week and took PT84 today. Here are the breakdowns:

PT83: 152 (BR: 161)

RC: -8

LG: -8

LR: -15

PT84: 159 (BR: 161)

RC: -7

LG: -8

LR: -6

So the huge score jump is clearly justified completely by me getting destroyed on LR on PT83 while doing much better on PT84 LR. However, this inconsistency worries me. Does anyone know if PT83 LR was just ridiculously hard or was PT84 LR much easier??

In addition, with 3 weeks until my October LSAT, is there any hope left for me improving LG? I’ve scored exactly and I mean exactly -8 on my last 3 PTs. Mostly because I RUSH like crazy just to be able to get to the 4th game. Is there any hope for me on LG with 3 short weeks left? Thank you for your time!

Should we submit a Why X statement to NYU? Is the school receptive to it?

Hello everyone. With the October LSAT getting closer and closer I was looking for help with what I should do at this point. I seem to average -8 on RC and between -3 and -6 on LG. LR is a complete tossup between like a -7 or as bad as a -15. It’s my worst section. I must clearly lack some fundamentals of LR to be doing so poorly and with how little time is left until the October LSAT my question becomes: At this point, should I even bother in reviewing LR fundamentals/drilling LR weaknesses? Or should I just solely focus on LG in hopes of perfecting to -1 or -0 for a last minute score boost? I’m honestly torn because -1 or -0 on LG is not a guarantee for me but after months of studying my LR has simply not improved either.

Hi -- I often study logic games by doing a timed section from a prep test using the drill feature. The drill feature seems to scramble the order of the games, but I'd really like to intentionally order them how they would appear on the test. It throws me off when the hardest game is the second game and the easiest is last. Is there a way to do this?

Hi! I am currently looking for a small group that would like to study together as I find that is a great way for motivation and staying on track.

Hi everyone, I need some advice.

I am currently registered to take the October and November LSAT. My issue is that with the October LSAT being a few weeks away, I feel like I am nowhere near where I wanna be in PT's. The October would be my first time taking it. My thought process was to just take the October test to practice run a real exam and have November as my more relaxed test. However, I now feel like I am not prepared for October at all and am debating just taking the November exam. I'm worried that I will freeze up during the November one and not be able to take the test again until January (I wanted to have all my apps in by end of November). Any advice on what I should do? Feeling discouraged :(

Hi everyone! I've recently been getting a lot better with LG but when I blind review I start to doubt myself and change the answers. So when I do the game the first time I get a 5/7 or 6/6 but when I do blind review it I switch to wrong answers bringing me down a point or two. Could anyone help me out?

Could someone please help explain how they got to answer choice D?

Hi everyone, I am having a hard time staying on track and improving my scores. I would love to have a small group of study partners to keep each other accountable. Taking the OCT 2022 test and most likely Nov as well. Let me know if you would like to join!

Hey guys,

What are your thoughts on score preview? Can law schools see if you cancel your score? I don't know if I want to spend even more money on LSAC stuff! But if it really is beneficial, I think I'll look into it for my October test.

I'm stuck with 150s in timed exams and the early 160s in BR for some months now.

My study method has been this:

Take timed test. Blind review. Review wrong questions. Note reason of getting wrong. Make a list of it.

The very first timed test was in the 140s so it was great to have some increase at first but, I mean, being stuck for a few months is a bit too long.

I would really love some advice from those who experienced a significant score increase.

Any specific tips?

At the beginning of my studying I was testing using PTs from mostly the 50s and 60s. As I'm nearing the October test date and taking more recent exams, my score had been going down - from around 172 consistently to around 168 off-and-on in PTs from the mid-80s. Anybody have any advice on why this might be or how to fix this? It doesn't seem to be any one section that is falling in particular

Hi, I’m taking the October LSAT and I’m looking for a study partner to review LR and RC sections together several times a week. The plan would be that we each do a section before meeting, and then we can go through the section together to discuss any tricky topics or nuances so that we’re able to more effectively solve such problems in the future.

I’m available mornings (8-9AM) and nights (6-9PM) in PT on weekdays, and am flexible on weekends.

I’m currently averaging -1 to -2 on LR and RC and -0 on LG, and aiming to better be able to tackle the really hard problems and be able to more effectively justify and choose between “last two answers”.

Let me know if you’re interested and we can set up a time to go through a section together.

"Unless Shiming's car is fixed, which cannot happen without Steve's help, there will be no road trip next week."

From the lesson, https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-complex-conditional-translations-4-w-answers/

I'm very confused in here because of the prior rules of mixing group 3 and group 4 conditional indicators. And in this sentence there's a bunch of them.

I understand the "final" necessary condition being /road trip next week. So the first conditional statement written in logic would be /car fixed > /road trip. This part I understand as we are using group 3 logic, negate sufficient. Simple enough.

Now to add the second part, "Unless Shiming's car is fixed, which cannot happen without Steve's help....."

In this sentence we have two group 3 indicators and one group 4 indicator. What do we do in this situation? In a previous lesson when we run into this situation, we pick one side, follow that group's negation rules, then treat the other "logical indicator" as a negation.

So for example, I want to follow group 3's rule on the indicator "unless". Which is choose a side, make it the sufficient condition, and negate. Okay. Let's pick car fixed.

So this puts me at /car fixed > which cannot happen without Steve's help.....

Now on the necessary side we have a group 3 and a group 4 logical indicator in there :DDDD.

What do we do here? If I treat both as a negation which cancels each other out, that turns into /car fixed > Steve's help. Which makes absolutely no sense at all. And even the other way around, /car fixed > /steve's help, which makes so much more sense, it doesn't fit in the final answer. This is because the contrapositive of /car fixed > /steve's help is steve's help > car fixed.

The final answer being /steve's help > /car fixed > /road trip. The contrapositive being road trip > car fixed > steve's help.

Help me please~~~

I unfortunately missed the webinar (didn’t see it was eastern time, sigh). Would anyone be willing to message me what I missed? I would appreciate it greatly!

I am finishing up the logical reasoning curriculum and plan to practice test just the logical reasoning section for now, until I get through the rest of the Curriculum. How many should I be getting wrong if I want to aim for a 160? I know it also depends on what I get on the other sections, but just a general idea would be nice.

Hi,

I took a diagnostic about 3 weeks ago and scored a 157. Since then I've taken maybe 6-7 tests and have been scoring around 170 on the last few without doing any actual studying, just glancing at why I got questions wrong and particularly emphasizing the LG section because that's what I struggled with most on my diagnostic. I'm not trying to brag or anything but I want to know realistically what it takes to get from high 160's/low 170's to consistent high 170's. Also I have over a year to study until I'll be applying to law schools.

Thanks

Does anyone know how to get back into the room? I was having audio issues and after installing Adobe it keeps saying User Limit Exceeded. Anyone know how to contact powerscore asap?

Hey guys, I studied and took LSAT last year when LSAT-Flex was still in effect. I'm retaking it this year and learnt that LSAT now has four sections, three plus an experimental one. I wanna ask whats the best way to simulate this kind of tests when PTing— do u guys do three sections or four sections? Is doing three sections more reflective of your actual score?

Would it be a good idea to attack questions 15 and up first in a section, then go back to 1-14 after? Burnout is real for me as I work through the section so this method might help. Thoughts?

I had a look at this to see at what point harder questions might start showing up

https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/lr_individual-question-difficulty

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Hello everyone. I’m looking for some advice as I’m honestly panicking now. I took PT83 today and I had heard that PTs in the 80s were much more difficult. The LG section wasn’t bad but I ran out of time and got -8. The RC was ok and I also got -8 which is around my average. Now LR… I had been averaging -8/9 and got destroyed with a -15. Even worse, 7Sage classified this LR section as a 2 star difficulty section as a whole. I’m signed up for the October and LSAT and feel completely lost now. I thought I was finally improving LR but after hearing how the current LSATs are much like the PTs in the 80s I’m really worried. -15 in LR is abysmal especially in what 7sage considers to be a 2 star (easier) section. On BR, I got an extra 6 questions correct bringing my BR score to -9 (which is still bad) but definitely not -15. Where do I go from here? I feel like all hope is lost considering the October LSAT is right there.