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Last comment thursday, jan 20 2022

50 hours a week?!

So, starting January 17 to take the June test, requires over 50 hours a week of study. That's over 5 months, and the schedule requires 50 hours a week?! That can't be right. I can do 20-30 hours a week, so how do I adjust this in my schedule?

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I began my LSAT journey long ago in August 2020. At first, it started with light research about the LSAT and then an intense urge to use Khan Academy's free LSAT services. It was a mistake. After burning through most of the recent available PTs, I found 7Sage and the PowerScore bibles. PowerScore really helped to solidify some basic principles of the test but I also realized it wasn't enough. When 7Sage offered their reduced fee for those with fee waivers, I started going through the core curriculum. Now, over a year a later, I just took my fourth LSAT in January and it felt great. I have gone through nearly every question in LSAT existence (that is available). My takeaways are:

  • Take the LSAT as many times as you can if you have a good reason to believe your LSAT score will increase.
  • DO EVERY LOGIC GAME. It is the only way that can basically guarantee a perfect section.
  • Do not neglect RC. The advice of the internet is that this section cannot be improved and that is blatantly false.
  • The LSAT is fun, it really is.
  • I went from a 154 diagnostic score, which is probably inflated since Khan Academy tells you to keep going when you run out of time, to scoring only in the 170s. By the time I sat down for the January LSAT, my average sections were LG (-0), LR (-1 to -2), and RC (-2 to -5) on average. The LSAT is certainly not an IQ test and is completely learnable if you give yourself the time!

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    I just wanted to log back onto 7Sage after several months (I took my last test in October) to thank JY and the 7Sage community for everything it has given me. This website helped me raise my LSAT score by 10 points and undoubtedly is a huge factor in my success this cycle. I applied to 18 schools and I've been accepted to 6 of them (including a T30 and 2 full rides in the T50). I've also been deferred at my #1 of GULC (fingers crossed for me) and I have high hopes for the remaining schools. I never thought I would make it to this point until I found 7Sage and finally started to understand my own learning process. Thank you everyone and good luck to everyone who is still studying for the LSAT! You got this!

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    Last comment thursday, jan 20 2022

    Necessary Assumption Confusion

    Hello,

    Im just a little confused about necessary assumptions when using the negation test. We've been taught that if the answer choice, negated, would make the arguement not make sense or destroy it. My confusion is to me the argument is the premise and the conclusion. So am i looking for it to destroy the support between the conclusion and the argument or am i just looking for it to make the conclusion less likely to happen? Or am I looking for an assumption that would not support the relationship between the conclusion and the premises?

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    Hi guys,

    Looking for some study buddies to BR tests together before our Jan test in a few weeks. I was in an old group but everybody was either done or taking some later tests. Gained significant improvement following their format, so hopefully I'll be able to find a couple of 170+ aiming friends to finish off the last part of the LSAT journey!

    Here's what to expect:

  • We take a timed PT on our own ( Please do not check the correct answers)
  • We get together to BR on Zoom
  • General format:

  • We go through each question and say our answer choices. We'll pause to talk about any question that has different answers among group members or someone flagged. The person flagged the question or a volunteer will go through that question live by proving four answer choices wrong (usually we try to avoid just proving why the correct answer is right, except for specific types such as classic flaw). If there's something missing from that person's prephrase/analysis, the rest of the group help him/her/them out.
  • LG: usually just sharing the boards. Or skip depends on how much time we have (JY's videos usually are sufficient)
  • LR: Unless it's an inference or super long stimulus para question, we generally do a Loophole translation (translate the stimulus in your own words/plain English without looking at the stimulus) first. For question types that would be beneficial to have a prephrase, we'd want to say our prephrase before looking at ACs. And then we go prove four ACs wrong.
  • RC: Members taking turns to go through one passage live. After each paragraph, that person pauses and summarizes the MP and Purpose of that paragraph. And after each passage, that person pauses and summarizes the MP, Purpose and Structure of the passage.
  • Time:

  • The BR marathon can last 4-8 hrs depends on how many questions got flagged (and how much we talk about other stuff lol)
  • Generally a 10 mins break every 2 hours
  • I'm working full-time so I can only do the marathon BR on weekends or days off. Requested a week off before the test so we can hop on more often that week.
  • Weekend: Starting 10 am PST on Sunday mornings (I have a hard stop at 3 pm PST), or starting sometime in the afternoon PST during Xmas and New Years.
  • The week before the test: Flexible.
  • I've touched a significant amount of PTs in the past, so here're my tentative plans for the rest of the weeks (and flexible to repeat old tests/sections if the majority of the group want to do a specific PT):

    12/18 weekend: PT 80 Flex (2nd LR) + PT 90 1st LR (group BR on the 19th)

    12/25 weekend: PT 82 Flex (1st LR) + PT 81 2nd LR (group BR on the 26th)

    1/1 weekend: PT 88 Flex (1st LR) + PT 39 RC (group BR on the 2nd)

    1/7: PT 86 full four (group BR time TBD)

    1/9: PT 89 Flex (2nd LR) + PT 56 RC (group BR time TBD)

    1/11: PT 91 full four (group BR time TBD)

    1/13: PT 92 full four (group BR time TBD)

    Feel free to email hkwang789@gmail.com if interested! Thanks and good luck everyone!

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    Howdy fellow 0Ls!

    Check out the latest edition of the 7Sage LSAT Digest, in which I discuss how we approach setbacks along our LSAT journey.

    You can read the post here: https://7sage.substack.com/p/lsat-tips-one-score-does-not-define

    If you could use some help on the way to your goal score and want to work with one of our LSAT tutors, use this link to learn more: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-tutoring/

    If you'd like to talk to one of our tutors before committing to a plan, schedule a free consultation at this link: https://calendly.com/scott-milam/7sage-tutoring-consult

    Comment below with any questions, and I'll be sure to respond!

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    [I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

    I would like to get advices on how can I consistently improve until my test? I'm doing PT's more frequently now leading up to my test but ideally I need to score in the mid to high 150s. I blind review and watch the videos after too but my biggest problem is changing my thought process for LR.

    Thank you in advance!

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    Hello,

    I am wondering if anyone is interested in studying together for the upcoming February LSAT. Looking for people who are willing to talk through questions, work independently and when we meet be able to discuss any progress or struggles, and most importantly hold each other accountable. I think loosing focus and getting discouraged are easy when you feel alone, so I think having people to push you to keep going and make sure you're on the right track would be beneficial.

    Let me know!

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    I couldn't apply earlier this cycle due to a variety of personal reasons.

    I was planning to apply to extreme reaches for me at HLS and a few other T6.

    This is the last cycle I can apply before my LSAT score expires.

    It's 171 from Sep-2016 and valid by LSAC only till this cycle.

    Is it worth to apply this late at HLS?

    I saw they have a deadline of Mar-1st, which makes it looks like there is still time to go and that they expect some applications to trickle even in Feb, or why would they have such a late deadline. (i may be wrong but iirc they used to have Feb1st as deadline).

    How much of a difference is in applying now vs early Sep/Oct in the cycle?

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    The title says it all but I'd really like to know what exactly do you do when you get questions incorrect for RC, especially confidence errors? I have questions where I literally cite the lines I get my answers from and it still turns out to be...incorrect. My first instinct is to look at the answer key after BR and the 7sage video but I'd like to get any tips on how to improve my protocol because the routine I've been doing isn't getting me beyond the mid-160's.

    And as always, if anyone reading this post is exceptional with RC, I am also open to any one-on-one tutoring you could provide. If that is the case, I would like to see your score first and have a trial lesson before I fully commit. I want someone who could teach me some overarching concepts about RC because I've been mainly focused on trying to understand the content of the passages alone and it isn't working. I categorized this post as RC but honestly, it can extend to LR as well. And I will pay you by hour after the session is over before we log off zoom.

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    Looks like Columbia only considers score from LSAT taken after Jun-2017 as valid for this cycle.

    This is a big difference than ALL T14 schools and LSAC itself that considers any score from June-2016 or after as "valid" for current cycle. (The rule is score has to be within 5 years prior to current cycle so that makes anything after June-2016 as valid).

    I'm at the margin with a lsat score from Fall-2016 and was planning to apply.

    Anyone with experience with this situation?

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    This is the LR question about a university president's concerns that applicant numbers are shrinking due to the low tuition costs of the university.

    (A) suggests that the missing assumption is that the proposed reason for shrinking applicant numbers is true (if that proposition is false, the conclusion is false)

    (D) suggests that there are no other reasons to explain the university's shrinking number of applicants (i.e. the original hypothesis is true).

    These appear absolutely identical to me. Can someone explain how they are not?

    Thanks!

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-2-question-25/

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    Hi all. I know that there will be 4 sections on the real LSAT, with 3 being scored and 1 being experimental. However, the default option for taking prep tests gives you 4 scored versions. Would you guys recommend taking the flex test (which would perhaps lead to a more accurate score?) or taking the regular version to more accurately simulate the endurance required for the real test? I am leaning towards the latter option, but I know LR is my strong suit, and I don't want to give myself false confidence with the benefit of a higher % of my total score coming from LR. Thank you!

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    Hey everyone! I am looking for anyone interested I am looking to start a discord and blind review tests once a week together starting Jan 16 (obligations next weekend) and also to regularly discuss questions we find difficult. I have been doing LSAT alone for all this time and my high score is a 170 and I plan on going much higher. I know there are lots of other students out there who have been studying alone and I think collaboration would be a good change to my study routine. I work full time, so this would be primarily focused on a sunday or saturday prep test, but then we can put challenging questions or seek general advice in the discord and go from there. Look forward to hearing from anyone! I

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    I have one LOR already submitted, and I'm waiting on a second one. They are both professional. The one that is submitted is from my boss at a job I had while going to school. The second is from an attorney coworker I had at my most recent job.

    I am confident that the first LOR speaks very highly of me and my abilities. That guy thinks I walk on water.

    I am less confident in the second LOR. He knows me, and I worked with him every day. He is a good guy, but he is really dragging his feet on this thing. He agreed to do it back in November, I contacted him about it at the beginning of this month and he again agreed to have it done as soon as possible. He hasn't replied to my emails since then.

    Should I just go ahead and submit my applications and add his LOR later if/when it happens? Should I ask someone else?

    What does everyone think?

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    I'm using the schedule, marking each section as I move through it. I glanced ahead and only see one PT, the June 2007 test. But then I don't see anymore up to the actual test on March 12th. That can't be right, right? Will there be more PT's I'm just not seeing in the Syllabus?

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    Hi All! Quick question? Regarding Lawgic and translation rules for group 3 and 4. I understand I need to pick either idea, then negate that idea etc. I am getting stuck at times if the idea I choose is already negated. Do I always remove the negation from the idea? I'm getting stuck in the rule of negating. Thanks for the help!

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    Hey you guys,

    I've seen some questions and answers regarding whether LSAT Flex can be taken on full-screen.

    I was not able to find any answers on the other way around.

    I don't have a laptop, but instead I have an 27inch iMac. My screen is too huge to have my LSAT page full-screen.

    It would just be a nightmare having to move my mouse back and forth just to click on the next button.

    For those of you kind people who have an experience with taking LSAT Flex (or however you call it now - at home LSATs with your own cpts), were you able to adjust the screen size to your preference?

    Thanks for the help. I might have to find some ways to rent a laptop if the above is not the case :/

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