Recently I've discovered using the highlighting tool on RC helps me pick up the smaller details and answer the questions much faster with better understanding. While it does take slightly longer in the set up (a tad over 4 minutes), I was actually having the issue of reading way too fast and understanding next to nothing in my timed runs, so I'd rather have it this way. Out of curiosity, does anyone else do this with success? Have you done it on the actual test (and are there multiple colors available like on 7Sage)? Thanks!

I know there are a few posts regarding the same topic but I don't think there has been one after the June 2022 elongation announcement, so here it goes.

I just found the "simulate FLEX" function for PTs. I am thinking of applying to law school in 2023 hence I'm curious as to whether the 3-section FLEX format will continue onwards from June 2022, because I am unsure in what format I should be doing my PTs.

Does anyone know? Any help/advice/comments would be very appreciated.

Hey guys, I'm a 2022 test taker just really cautious about the fact that there are a limited # of PTs + its mentally draining to go through just one PT.

I took a diagnostic about a week ago and scored a 155. However I took it in Khan Academy, and 7Sage is requiring me to take another PT (the June 2007 one) as indicated on its syllabus.

After my K.A diagnostic I've only studied new concepts in LR and just merely went over my answers in RC and LG. Should I take the suggested PT right now? If not, when should I take it?

I just realized that my ordering games are pretty weak. By any chance does anyone have any tips/suggestions on how to get better at the harder ones? I try to split the board up into multiple sub game boards, using rules like H /->M, or O/-> K, (H cannot be with M and O cannot be with K if it's not clear), etc but the multiple conditionals honestly screw with me under time pressure and I panic.

For reference, I'm talking about the last two grouping games on LSAT 74.

#Help lol.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-2-game-3/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-2-game-4/

Hi Friends !

I'm taking the LSAT for the second time in a couple weeks. The first time around I scored a 162.

This time, my scoring has hit a consistent 167 in most of the PrepTests i've taken (mostly 70s or 60s). Recently I've been feeling a bit bored or unmotivated, maybe just fatigue. Today I scored a PrepTest...160... I'm sad to see such a drop off. In my review, I feel like I missed questions and don't even know why I chose the AC I did ! Where's my head !

Any tips? Should I just take a few days off or is this a sign of something worse ?? Do I consider not writing? :S I feel nervous about taking time off so close to my sitting.

I write in 2 weeks, hoping to not score anything lower than a 165/166.

Let me know what you think !! All thoughts are welcome, thank you (3(/p)

Just looked at the explanation video from PT68.S2.Q15, and in the right answer choice the word "probably" appears.

Can we say that if the word "probably" appears in a LR question, it can mean anything from 1% to 100% certainty (1%, 5%, 15%, 50%, 85%, 100%), or does it mean something like >50%?

WARNING LONG READ

Hi yall, it has now been approximately a month since i got my LSAT score and I really wasn't sure how I was feeling and lost with what to do with my life so I guess this post is kind of late. I wasn't really sure if I was going to post this but I thought the community was always helpful when I was feeling down so I thought I could shed some light on others.

Time Spent: Approx 3+ years on and off. 135ish ( never took a diagnostic but did them untimed) ---> 168. Wrote it like 4 times

Resources Used: Official LSAT Prep Tests Book, LSAT Trainer, Kaplan, Princeton, All of the Powerscore Books, The Loophole, 7sage, pretty much read all of the LSAT books in publication, have written every question once if not 2x 3x 4x

First of all, I was not skilled at the LSAT in fact I was quite stupid to be frank. You know how your suppose to do the first 10 questions in LR in the first 10 minutes ...... yea I was getting like 2 right untimed in the first ten. God knows how many i'll get wrong in the whole section. It sucks but that is the harsh reality. Everyone says the test is learnable and that is true.... but it's just the fact that people learn at different rates and well, if you are not skilled at reasoning nor ever had formal training in logic, nor read much in your younger years then its going to take quite a while ..... However rest assured you will make it, it's just how much you are willing to sacrifice. I literally know a girl who studied for 2 months and got a 172, also recently I got recommended on YT to this girl's channel studyquill and watched her cold diagnostic a 168. DERP DERP DERP. But the point is and I want you guys to know this is that these people have literally been studying their WHOLE lives (just subliminally). They are extremely well read, most likely been trained in logic at a young age, and probably to a certain extent quite gifted. The LSAT is a skills test and if you have been sharpening on these specific skills (logical reasoning, reading, spatial reasoning) you are rewarded. Someone like me that spent his time playing video games....... well its going to be a grind.

In the first part of my studying, I initially just bought the LSAT tests. You know the ones that says 10 new actual official PT's, yea those ones. I would write them untimed in the beginning just to get a good feel of the test. In hindsight, I don't think this is terrible as I actually believe that you should accustom yourself to what they are asking. I have no idea that they were testing on deductive reasoning, heck I didn't even know what that was. I was bringing in inductive reasoning and that honestly kills you on the LSAT. The LSAT only cares about what is on paper. I wish someone told me that earlier but I honestly wouldn't have been able to separate my inferences as that was so foreign to me. I think I did this for a few months hoping that the more questions I do, I would just naturally get better. Oh yea, don't do that. You need to know specific concepts on the LSAT if you were never taught that. I had no idea what a necessary assumption yet alone what was a sufficient assumption. I would pick that answer like it was a main point and hope that it was right LMAO. I remember thinking that I liked sufficient assumption questions more then NA since SOMETIMES I got it right when my method was just to pick something that sounds like the main point. Clearly my dreams of scoring in the 170's was not happening. Anyways, I ended up being gifted a Kaplan Logical Reasoning book. It's actually quite good TBH, I actually think its better than the powerscore one which everyone seems to go to. Well after reading it, I figured out the different types of questions but MOST importantly, I LEARNED what even was DEDUCTIVE REASONING. Like jesus, I had to stop thinking what was going on in my day to day life and learn how to focus only on the FACTS on the paper. Oh yea I think I almost figured out what a premise is. It's something that supports the conclusion ...... Well actually KNOWING and actually SEEING is completely different. I highly recommend for improvement in LR to literally map out the whole section on every question what is the premise and draw an arrow to the conclusion. It's super important to ingrain good habits, believe me it will save you a lot of time improving.

Okay, so now I finished the book. Lets see where am I at, okay -12 to -15 on an untimed section of LR hmmmm quite bad but that's improvement! I just needed to sharpen my skills. So here we go, I bought a set of Powerscore Bibles and started working through them. I read every single page and worked through all of them. I also read a princeton book and a not so good barrons or something along the way. I think I was beginning to grasp the concepts of the questions. However, I was STILL SUFFICIENTLY lacking. If you never had a formal education in reasoning a lot of the concepts you need is just not covered in depth in a lot of these books. However, if your diagnostic is high then it may be enough. All of these books are thicc and they just won't have enough space to add even more. I wish I had found 7sage sooner.

Anyways, a year or so has passed and I have now read all these books. Okay, so I'm probably PTing at about 145-150 at this point. Not great but from where I came from, its actually quite nice. I obviously didn't see it like that cus I wanted that 170. My mindset was 170 or die. I think I wrote the LSAT once during this time when it was offered on paper just to test the water. I mean my parents, friends, and family knew I was studying all the time and kind of just expected me to have something to show for it. I was nowhere near ready but it is at this point that those around you will start pressuring you and YOU WILL feel huge amounts of social anxiety and depression. So I went in there thinking I could just clutch it. In my mind I was like yea, maybe if I just needed some pressure to bring out my A game. I was most likely PTing around the 150s thinking I could just KOBEEE my way to the 165s and call it a day. Yea that didn't happen.

Well anyways, I obviously didn't give up and continued my journey. Finally here comes 7sage!~ The star of the show has arrived but oh crap man is that curriculum long AF. I think I forced myself and tried to speed through it. Big mistake. The curriculum is extremely long and daunting but for someone like me, it was what I needed but didn't realize. A lot of the times I didn't feel like studying but I just kept grinding at it. That's a good mindset to keep grinding but learning the LSAT takes a lot of time and you actually need to KNOW the concepts if you want to score high. You need to make sure your mind is right and actually UNDERSTAND rather than trying to beat it into your head like me. Anyways after the curriculum I think I was touching the 155 - 160s on a good day. Back to my bad habits of trying to write every single question and improving like that. THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO GO ! You are being tested on your reasoning and brute forcing reasoning will only take you so far. I think I was on my second year of studying for the LSAT and here was when I got a study buddy. She realized that even though I finished the core curriculum my UNDERSTANDING of it was sub-par. You not only need to know contrapositives and negations, but you NEEDED to do it FAST ! She made me redo the core curriculum, yes the whole thing ........ I dreaded it, I hated it, but it was what I needed. J.Y's teaching is golden, he literally gives you the most in depth step by step approach.

Okay so 2 years has passed and remember when I said that you'll feel social anxiety and depression. Yea YOU ARE REALLY going to feel it now. I no longer talk to my friends and family about what I'm doing. I can't even look at them in the eye, that's how bad it was. I think I lied about what I was doing in my room, but literally I was consuming every video ever posted by J.Y. like so many times it was ridiculous. I think I was scoring around the 160s now after going through the CC twice. Guess what I did, I thought I knew enough and continued grinding through PT after PT. Yea that's just a pit of depression when you keep seeing you are getting the same score over and over again. You literally have to figure out WHY you are getting the questions wrong. If you don't understand the reasoning ( and I know it can be hard when you have no one ) you are NOT going to get the next similar question right. IT IS SIMPLY NOT HOW IT WORKS. The LSAT is f' in hard and it will tear you apart time after time just in a subtler shade of meaning. So grab yourself a study buddy and go at it, you need someone to hash out WHY specifically your reasoning is wrong. If you like to do this yourself, type out why each and every answer choice is right / wrong and post it in the comments section. This will hold you accountable.

Ah so finally, stuck in the 160s and not sure what to do. You think you know but in reality you know nothing. Yes, I did the curriculum a third time. If 7sage had a tracker on how much time you spent watching their videos, I think I would be in the 99th percentile rank 1. You want to score in the 165s and beyond you not only have to KNOW you have to do it LIGHTNING FAST. It becomes almost like intuition. Contrapositives, negations, sufficient assumption, necessary assumptions, etc. you going to be REAL QUICK !

So here we go again, into the third year.... most likely most of you won't be able to fathom what I was feeling. Friends, family, relationships ..... yea no one knew that I was still trying. I think its actually advantageous to keep it this way if you are struggling. It keeps the anxiety off when no one bombards you with " ARE YOU STILL STUDYING?". Logical reasoning I was doing good now, I mean ... I think I wrote every single question like 3 times..... I think I have also written every single PT multiple times. But you know what I still can't get around RC. It's just so hard when you didn't spend time reading growing up. ( I only read finance books) At this stage I was drilling RC every single day since it kept me out of the high 160's and 170s. I think I wrote every single RC passage like 4 times and I still don't get them all right. Going -5 to -6 was a good day. I think I might have to just give up on my dream on scoring in the 170s and live with a 168.....

Oh yea I forgot to tell ya my GPA is atrocious so hopefully ONE law school will take a chance on me in Canada...... Hopefully for those of you struggling this has cheered you up! There is ALWAYS someone in a worst off place than you are and I believe I might just be that person.

I would like to give a special thanks to my study buddy @Vibrio, I know your home isn't in a good place right now and I wish you all the best. You were an amazing study buddy pushing me to the limits going through the CC multiple times even though I was angry.

Thank you to @jmarmaduke96 for offering to tutor me and changing my studying methodologies on the come-up when I had no one to talk to. He is an amazing tutor and would highly recommend anyone to get taught by him.

Thank you @Sami for always being a gem to the community. I would always go to her workshops to learn from her. She is an absolutely amazing person and I would highly recommend her!

Thank you @J.Y. Ping and the whole community here at 7sage you are absolutely amazing and making a change in the world.

AMA also if you are feeling unwell and just need someone to talk to please feel free to DM me as I probably have experienced everything you are feeling I am still not feeling great at the moment as I'm not sure where my life will take me but perhaps I know the answer to your questions without knowing mine . If you need help on an LR question send me a DM and I will try to do my best to explain it to you as I got really good at explaining questions (went near perfect on the exam) since I came from the worst possible. I think being one of the most stupidest has trained me at explaining things to other not so bright minds

Also for those of you wondering how I was able to afford this time, I was trading stocks and options in the morning before I began studying for the LSATs. I was luckily enough that I could do this. Good luck to you all you will make it if you want it bad enough !!

I've been taking practice tests in the 60s/early 70s and only just started to take practice tests in the 80s and am seeing a nosedive in my LR score. Is it commonly known that LR is much less straightforward in the 80s? Also, do we have every reason to believe that the difficulty level for LR in the 80s is the most indicative of the real test, since PT 80+ are the most recent tests?

I began studying for the LSAT in late May in anticipation for the August test. I read through a short book on term logic, which turned out to be a very helpful primer for understanding logical rules and conditionals. After reading the book, I began the Core Curriculum in mid June and completed it in early to mid July. I then began practice tests. I have just a few practice tests under my belt, but I am not scoring higher than my diagnostic score, and I'm finding that I'm not consistently within time for sections.

I'm rather concerned on a few things: 1) Is it even worth taking the August test if I'm still no where near I want to be as of today in terms of my score? 2) The lack of significant improvement despite performing well during the Core Curriculum is bothersome. Would a tutor be a good option for this sort of situation?

Thanks.

Hello,

I've been studying what I thought was hard for three months for the LSAT and I realized I need to try a tutor. I live on the East Coast of the U.S, and need help most of the help with LR and LG. Please dm if you are a tutor that could work with me online or even in person.

Best wishes and good luck to everyone

** thank you so much! Just found a great tutor :)

As we get into the last 2 weeks before the exam, I'm hoping for any advice folks have on how to bump scores up. How are you studying? What kinds of resources are you using? And does anyone have experience boosting their score in such a short time?

Looking for a study member who wants to join the study group!

This study group is for October testers.

Anyone interested, please message me!

I’m sure there might be a discussion somewhere on this platform. Can someone please point me to an explanation of why the answer is b? Answer a and b seem the same to me.

7Sage has this question categorized as (Misc)(MSS) but I am thinking it may be closer to a principle question type. The question stem appears to be unique and this question threw me off at the start. I want to make sure that I am prepared the next time I see one like this.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-4-question-01/

Hey guys, a study buddy of mine and I are both taking PT 80 today with plans to review it together tomorrow at 5pm EST over Discord. We were wondering if anyone else would like to join us in our review tomorrow. Shoot me a message if you're interested!

I took the June test and scored in the bottom of my target range but still relatively satisfied. I am scheduled to take the August test in a couple weeks. I took some time off post-June test, but I've now been studying consistently for a month (with a week break mixed in).

I've since started working full time, and my study time has been reduced significantly. My PT scores are much lower than my June score and have been stagnant over the last 2 weeks. I'm sure it's some form of burnout, but I've found that the more time I take off the more my score suffers. With my test in 2 weeks I don't think I can afford anymore breaks.

Has anyone experienced something similar? Should I just power through or cancel my August test? Any advice at all would be appreciated.

Thanks!

I know this has been asked time after time... but I want to know what people are thinking right now -- how do you get your timed score to match your blind review score?

I've watched the webinar on this from 7sage, and I know I'm in "stage 3" (I think) where my blind review is my target score. But my gap is not decreasing!

I got a 155 on my diagnostic in Khan Academy and was going to start out with a PT at 7sage so I could study according to the analytics. The resources I have right now are Khan Academy and 7sage (Ultimate subscription + LSAC Prep Plus).

However I read a few past posts and everyone was saying to go through the curriculum first then start with the PTs, because the PTs are precious. I agree with them and also think it'd be a good idea to go through the comprehensive curriculum because basing off my studies on the errors I had in 1 PT sounds a bit myopic.

Would it be a good plan to go through the entire curriculum, make/do problem sets of parts I found difficult, foolproof certain parts then start with the PTs? For other tests I usually learn the most by full PTing but I understand that resources for the LSAT are limited.

Just curious how everyone else reached their dream scores using 7sage. Thank you.

I have been listening to the podcasts and some of them suggest recording the PTs and re-watching them later. How do people do this (if they do). Like logistically, how do you record yourself taking a practice PT in the most effective manner?

Hey guys!

Just wanted to let you all know that scheduling is available for the August LSAT! Go to ProctorU if you haven't already and set up and account!

Hi all,

I have been studying for the LSAT for awhile, and while I have improved in logic games and reading comprehension, logical reasoning has become the bane of my existence. I consistently get around 7-9 wrong per logical reasoning section, and I feel like I may not be seeing certain things or may be thinking about the questions in an inefficient way. I have used different resources such as 7sage, the loophole book, and parts of the Lsat trainer, but clearly there is a disconnect. I would love to form a group of people who are in a similar boat and are trying to improve before the October exam! I was thinking of going over 2 logical reasoning sections a week, but am open to any suggestions :) I can create a groupme or whatsapp and we can take it from there!

Hey all,

I need some advice on the upcoming admissions cycle. I was granted a non-binding deferral of admission to my first choice school (a UC-system law school) to attend beginning in the Fall of 2022. Being a non-binding deferral, the school cannot guarantee the amount of merit-based aid I will receive. During the last admissions cycle I was offered merit-based aid from this school amounting to about 75% of tuition costs.

I have three questions given this situation:

Currently scoring in 150-155

EST after 5 pm

I got the answer right by confidently eliminating all the others.

I am still confused about the correct answer choice. The first sentence in the stimulus implies that more than .5 grams have the capacity to neutralize.. Not .5 grams.

I would greatly appreciate some clarification.

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/neutralize-stomach-acids-mss-question/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-2-question-19/

Hi! I study 6 days a week, Saturday through Thursday. I take Fridays off, and PT every Saturday. With about 70 days left until the October exam, it's crunch time for me. I definitely look forward to my Fridays off, and it's helped me not burnout but I'm wondering if it's ok to study on Friday for Logic Games only. Does anyone do a few Logic Games every day??

I just don't want to burnout...because I get bad test anxiety sometimes I blank out/can't focus on reading through the dense stimulus on LR. But Logic Games, is something I don't want to forget also. Hope I'm making some sense. It's 1:13 am right now for me. Thanks~~