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Hello everyone, I am planning to apply in the next cycle and am currently stressed about my softs. I am an international student so do not have much idea about the criteria used by US schools. I'll be grateful if anyone could take out the time to review my resume and suggest improvements/how I can build it further.
Thanks in advance :)
I'm currently registered for both the April and June 2022 LSAT. If I correctly understand the structure description from LSAC, the LSAT is now 3 scored sections (1 of each type) and 1 unscored experimental section. Does that mean that the test is essentially still a Flex format with the addition of an unscored section, i.e. there is not 2 scored LR sections as the PTs have? If so, should I be choosing to simulate Flex when I am PTing?
Hi,
I know the Personal Statement for almost anywhere is required to be double spaced. I was just wondering if other essays like addendums and diversity statements also had to be double spaced? I know they are supposed to be shorter but a single page double spaced is not enough to really show anything unique.
Thanks in advance!
I’ve been studying since June 2021. I spent 4 months paying for lsat demon and switched to 7 sage sometime during November. I’ve studied consistently since (average one hour to 2 each day) and have taken 5 practice PTs. Today I received my worst score yet, a 143. I’m thinking of calling this process quits because I really do not feel as though I’m “getting this” or catching on to what I need to do in order to be successful enough to get in law school, let a lone get a scholarship, which in my financial situation is a necessity. I’m burnt guys. It’s depressing.
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Hi all,
I am preparing for the June 2022 LSAT and want to take plenty of practice tests, but I very rarely have 2.5-3 straight hours of time to take the test in one sitting.
I know it's ideal to take it all on one go, but do you think it'd be ok to space one test out over a few days instead?
I figure it's better to take a test under less preferable conditions than to not take one at all.
Also, how much do you think this method would inflate my final score? Fatigue is certainly a relevant factor in determining my final score.
Can someone explain to me the reason why, when you click the "Simulate Flex" option on the prep tests, an entire section disappears..? I went to take the diagnostic LSAT Prep Test 2007 and the entire section 03 unselects.
Anyone who has done Khan: What are your thoughts?
I'm taking a logic class and my professor is making us do LSAT problems for homework (and theres no explanations). How would i properly map out this game?
Your philosophy course covers seven philosophers: Aristotle, Descartes, Hume, Kant, Locke, Nietzsche, and Plato. Each philosopher is assigned for exactly one week. The order of the readings must meet the following conditions. Rule 1: Hume is assigned before Aristotle but after Kant Rule 2: Descartes is assigned before Plato but after Nietzsche Rule 3: If Locke is assigned before Hume, Descartes is assigned before Locke. Rule 4: If Descartes is assigned before Locke, Descartes is assigned before Hume.
Hey 7Sagers, this time of year can be rough for those of us who are disappointed in our scores as the cycle begins coming to its end, and paths forward begin to feel closed. There are hard choices to make, difficult conversations to have, and challenging emotions to process. I gave up LSAT and law school altogether when my last-chance-for-the-cycle score came back a point lower than my previous test. I got back to it eventually, but it took months to process. And things worked out fine for me.
And they'll work out fine for you too.
Anyway, I thought it might be good for folks to meet up and talk through some of this. I'm happy to moderate and talk about my experiences, but mostly I think it's just good to hear from others in a similar situation.
I took the January LSAT and got a 170. It also says that my score band is 166-174. So I have some questions:
What does this mean and in what way does it matter? Is this something admissions officers care about?
I've seen score bands before, but they have usually been a much smaller range, +/- 2 or 3 points. What does it mean that mine is an 8 point spread?
Did everyone that took the January LSAT have an 8 point spread? Or is it something specific to me that caused this 8 point spread?
Thank you all in advance for help with these questions!
Dear LSAC thanks for letting me kick your ass this January!!! 161 and couldn't be prouder!!
A 161 may seem like a mediocre score to many, but my goal was always a 160; and I managed to surpass it on test day. This was my fifth attempt at the LSAT and it really became a psychological battle for me.
My first score in 2019 was a 149; Jan 2020 cancelled; Feb 2020 151; Jan 2021 150.
To say that I was devastated in Jan 2021, when I scored a point lower than what I had scored a year prior, would be a hasty understatement. At that point I really did not believe I could do it. To have to get back on the horse, and start studying for something that felt hugely out of reach was really difficult. I didn't know what to tell my friends, family, and I felt like all my aspirations were about to go down the drain.
My only regret is not meeting my tutor @"Chris Nguyen" sooner. I wasn’t sold on spending money on private tutoring; but Chris knows how to identify the way his students learn best, and matches that in every session. Sounds cheesy - bur Chris truly taught me how to believe in myself again, he changed this whole exam for me and I genuinely looked forward to our sessions. I was so anxious through this whole process and booked extra sessions with Chris just so I could feel empowered and capable. He is more than a tutor, but a mentor, a coach, and a trusted friend. He could (quite literally) read my body language, and if he thought I was anxious or worried he would ask me what’s up and we'd chat about whatever was on my mind to try to get to the root of the issue. He is the hardest worker I've ever met and is always looking for ways to better himself for his students.
To anyone looking for tutoring - Chris is your guy! I would especially recommend him if you are a nervous test taker like myself.
I'm hopeful that this score will be able to get me into an Ontario law school - either way though, a huge accomplishment for me.
Can anyone help me figure out how to blind review after entering answers from a paper test? I understand how to convert to digital and see my score, but I'm hoping to be able to enter my paper answers and then blind review them. Right now, whenever I take a paper test and enter the answers, I'm not able to then get a blind review score and it's breaking my heart!
I hope everyone is doing well and that studying is coming along nicely. I’m sure we can all use a dose of motivation from time to time and I recently came across a podcast that I have found to be a great resource for me thinking long term on what can sometimes feel like a very long and difficult road to becoming a lawyer. Keeping the goal in mind is always very helpful to me. I have several areas of law that interest me, but have always been curious as to what it would be like in other fields and what their day to day work looks like. The How I Lawyer Podcast interviews practicing lawyers from a variety of specialities to answer these questions. I’d enjoy hearing back from you on whether you found this helpful in motivating you, and maybe what fields became of interest after listening. Here’s a link for those who use apple products:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/how-i-lawyer-podcast-with-jonah-perlin/id1546577526
The podcast can also be found on a variety of other platforms.
Enjoy your weekend and happy listening!
1 Year and 30 PTs Later
I'm EXHAUSTED and am so happy it's over. Thank you 7Sage and this community!
January 2021 Diagnostic: 145
June 2021 Flex: 163
October 2021: 163
January 2022: 171
I know everyone will ask so here are my resources:
-7Sage
-PowerScore LR Bible
-The LSAT Trainer
-Kaplan LSAT Book (was terrible, do not recommend)
-Fox LSAT Prep LR
-Manhattan LR Book
-Cambridge LR Books
-The Loophole (I barely read this so I have zero insight)
My strengths: LG (usually -0) and LR (-1 to -3)
My beast: RC though I managed to get -1 to -5 toward the end of my studying
What ended up being a game changer for me after my October LSAT:
-Read stimulus first!
-Take a break. I was studying so much I was burnt out and bombed the October LSAT. I took a one month break from studying and then was scoring in 170s consistently after that. Burnout is REAL. Take a break. Studying 4 hours a day is only going to burn you out.
-RC Tip: Treat RC as a giant LR stimulus i.e. find the conclusion in each paragraph, identify relationship it has with other paragraphs, etc. Do NOT choose an AC that you cannot find support for in the passage. The answers are all in the passage, even the "most strongly supported" and "inference" ones, everything is in the passage.
Wishing everyone the best of luck, go kill it!
Should I take the LSAT just to take it. So I have a score. Even though I am not ready? Or postpone to March.
Did you just take a random PT without knowing anything about what the LSAT even is, and is that considered your diagnostic score?
I actually started the LSAT journey in March 2021. I didn’t have a curriculum, I was just taking random PTs here and there, check answers, and study off of the answer explanations. I to this day never took a timed test, and all my untimed tests were always in the 160s. Then I took a half year long break. If I take a timed test now, would that be my diagnostic?
I am a non-native speaker. But I did it. I have done all the PT 50-92 3 times in the past 9 months! Drilled all the Questions from PT 1-45.
Hi all,
For those of you who have completed the LSAT writing portion, do you mind sharing with me your experience with the LSAT writing interface?
Thank you for your help!
So unbelievably happy! I started my journey in April 2021 with a 141 diagnostic, it was so discouraging to have people tell me there's no way I can get my goal score of 165+ because the jump is too large. WELL, I can finally say I proved them wrong but I always believed in myself--I think it's easy to compare yourself with others while studying for this exam but mindset is everything. Push yourself, study hard but also take time for self care. I struggle with GAD and ADHD and it has been no easy task but with the proper schedule to balance your time efficiently and positive affirmations, you can reach your goal!
Huge shoutout to 7Sage as well, I was at a plateau at 160 since September until I decided to start using the problem sets and video explanations to focus on my weaknesses!
If anyone has any questions, my messages are open :)
Hello Everyone, I am scheduled to take the June Lsat and I hope to get a score of 175. Any advice on getting to my goal?? I have purchased the LSAT Trainer and the LSAT Practice Tests.
It took a year of hard work and I gained a lot of tips and tricks. Would anybody buy an ebook for $5 of the tips and tricks I learned?
I know this is ridiculous because I've often been the person here who has given advice with regards to such type of questions, but now erroneously I am in the position to ask for it. I would still appreciate your help.
I've been averaging at around 174 among all PT's I've taken, and during the last 5 or so PTs I was able to hit a 180 and a 176. I had the suspicion that there might be an inflation because I had seen the vast majority of the PT's I've done before, however it was 1-1.5 years ago (I basically did non-serious on- and off- studying from late 2019 to May 2020, fully stopped and re-started in May 2021) and I honestly did not consciously remember any (!) of the questions - that feeling got corroborated when I simulated PT91 (100% fresh) on LawHub and scored a 173, which was within the range of my other scores (and honestly, it did not feel different from all other PTs I had taken).
I took the January International LSAT, and it did not feel significantly different from any other PT I've done (I was able to control the increased level of nervousness due to knowing that this is the real LSAT). However, I received my score yesterday which was a 168, and spent the whole day crying and vomiting (I wish I were kidding...). I never scored a 168 since re-starting prep in May (I can send you my personal PT excel file if you do not believe me)...
Before getting my mind clear, registering for June LSAT and using the weekend to think about an action plan, I would like to ask whether it makes sense now to apply to the Law Schools I planned to (these are Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, University of Chicago - no other schools, for personal reasons).
Things considering rn:
I often read here and on reddit that your chances are zero if LSAT is below last year's medians, however e.g. Harvard's 25th percentile score was 170, means that 25% of those admitted scored 170 or lower. Means to me that there is a realistic chance that there were at least some people with my score who got admitted.
It's February, admittedly very late, not sure how much of an impact that has (some say marginal, some say chances are 0).
Everything is set up for application, I paid here $600 for editing my Personal statement + diversity statement, for both I got verified by the editors that they are ready for submission now.
I can apply up to 3 times to each law school, however the thought of the miracle happening and thus not having to deal with LSAT anymore (i.e. getting accepted to one of those schools despite my weak LSAT score) is enticing.
No URM, however stellar CV and background interesting enough to write a diversity statement.
Bonus question:
After the 10 min break of the LSAT exam, I got another proctor. For some reason, the proctoring system kept calling my screen, there was no button where I could pick up and the new proctor was apparently so unfamiliar with the system that she could not make it stop - and instead of being able to calm down before the 2nd half of the exam, I was forced to listen to this annoying sound.
Furthermore, during the last 2-3 min of my LG section, it showed me that there was a connection issue for 5 sec or so, and suddenly it automatically switched to another window. I spent 30-60 sec yelling at the proctors to either stop the time or bring me back to the exam, when I suddenly realized that the exam window was still open and I was able to switch back to the exam simply with my mouse - I know that I could have realized it earlier/immediately, but, I mean, I was taking a very important exam at that moment...
At the end, I was luckily able to finish the LG questions, however: are these sufficient reasons to make this exam not count towards any limit (e.g. one can take the exam 3x in a testing year, 5x in 5 years and 7x over a lifetime, or sth like that) without being cancelled? This was the 4th time I took the LSAT, one of them though does not count because it was a Flex in summer 2020 (two of the scores are cancelled btw.).
Thanks.
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