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I got 173 and I hope JY can see my post, because I couldn't do it without the curriculum and the blind reviews. I also hope JY still remembers me, since I was always on the blind reviews back in 2019.
I also got a lot of advice about studying LSAT from JY, which was pretty helpful. Since English is not my mother language, and I have zero foundation in logic or critical thinking, it took me a while to get familiar with the test. I didn't even have an initial score before I started the LSAT journey. I didn't dare to calculate my initial score. I guess it was at most 138 because my LG section was blank. I was terrible at games.
It was very frustrating when I started. I tried a couple of LSAT study platforms and books, including Blueprint, LSAT courses at my university, A Self-Training Guild to LSAT, Powersocre, Manhattan, and finally 7Sage. I won't say that the other studying materials weren't effective, but they are just not right for me. I really enjoy the 7Sage curriculum because it explained everything from the beginning. I didn't realize I even missed something very basic before I started to learn the curriculum. For example, I didn't know when I read a stimulus, I should first separate background information and the main argument. It was very basic, and I believe all other studying materials have mentioned it at some point, but I did not catch it. It was when I watched the courses on 7Sage that I realized it was super important to do so in order to get to the right answer.
For 7Sagers who are still preparing for the test, my advice will be to find a teacher that suits your way of studying. It is more effective for me to listen and watch videos when I learn, so 7Sage was a perfect fit for me.
I also found out that redoing the curriculum once in a while was extremely effective for me. JY also mentioned it a few times when giving the blind reviews, which was one of the helpful tips I got for attending the blind reviews! I always learned something new when I redo the videos.
Can't thank JY and 7Sage enough for this amazing community on my journey to law school!
Hi all,
Looking for advice on submitting an LSAT addendum. Even though I got a 170 on my first LSAT attempt (thanks 7sage!), I decided, maybe mistakenly, to try again because I felt I had the potential to score even higher. Unfortunately I bombed my second attempt relative to all my practice test scores and scored a 164. I don't really have a good reason, other than the fact that my upstairs neighbors started blasting music five minutes before and I had to quickly switch rooms and get ready again. My first section was logic games and I couldn't solve half the games for the first time since my early study days. My other sections proceeded as expected, I think.
I understand a six point decrease is somewhat significant, but I also do not want to write an addendum that lacks a compelling reason to excuse the lower score and comes off as insincere. Would it be a good idea to send one in if I genuinely believe the 170 better reflects my abilities? I've already submitted my applications, so this would be in an email to the admissions office.
Thanks in advance!
I have found that the foolproof method for logic games is very very effective. Is there something similar for PTs? I am taking one a week and pretty much just drilling the questions all over the place.
Is there a more methodical way someone has found that is effective?
Hi all,
I'm an international, first gen, low income, URM, KJD candidate who applied during this cycle. Long story short: There is hope if you have a lower LSAT.
I started studying for the LSAT at exactly this time last year. I sat in June and got a 161. It was an okay starting score but I knew I could push for more. I sat again in August and, despite testing at a consistent 168, the test screwed me and I got a 160. This was devastating because I had worked so hard only to recieve a lower score the second time round. I had been toying with the idea of cancelling the score but ended up choosing not to: Mistake. I didn't submit an addendum because there was nothing to say - the test sucked.
Exhausted, over worked, and demotivated, I felt like my chances were shot especially because I had my heart set on a T14. I enrolled at Georgetown Law this morning. (Yes, technically GULC is not a T14 but a) they're on the rise and b) I did also get acceptances from several T14s like UVA but chose GULC for personal reasons).
On paper, it looked impossible but through some miracle, these top schools looked at more than just my score. Sure, they all claim to be holistic but use my experience as a reason to believe that they are telling the truth.
Sitting here one year later, right as my subscription is about to expire, I wanted to let you know that you can do it, no matter what your score looks like on paper.
Hello all, just wanted to show my gratitude to JY and the 7sage team. I got a terrific result on the november lsat and I owe it all to them.
I started out in mid 2020 with a diagnostic of 153. I was initially super discouraged, but stuck with it and made incremental gains over the course of a year. My LG went from -18, to -10, to -6, to a band of between perfect and -3. LG was always my weak spot, and fool proofing was huge for me. For anyone feeling discouraged, stick with it. What JY says about fool proofing is 100% correct. It isn't sexy, and it can be a royal pain, but it pays major dividends.
RC was also really tough for a really long time, but after working with a terrific tutor and sticking with the 7sage curriculum as well, I found a method that works for me. I'm a huge believer in the idea that for RC specifically, you have to have a methodology that forces you to engage with the text. For me, that was heavily using the underline feature, and summarizing each paragraph. It isn't pretty, but it worked.
Fast forward to the november test, I pulled out a score in the mid 170s. I really couldn't have done it without the 7sage program. I have become the world's biggest stan on the lsat subreddits and recommend the course to my buddies looking to start studying.
To anyone struggling, please don't quit. You can do it.
Just wanted to put it out there, that it is possible to reach your goal scores!! I'm a horrible standardized test taker and struggle deeply with ADHD and generalized anxiety disorder. It's been a challenge pushing myself out of my comfort zone but it's all been worth it, seeing that 179 PT result after being in a plateau in the high 160s for weeks and starting from a diagnostic of 141 in April 2021. We're all capable of great things, sometimes we just have to take a step back and recognize how far we've come. I know that I've been my own worst critic but here's to not doubting our potential!
Best of luck everyone!
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Please explain exercise two.. in chaining conditional relationship. I have the following question: Why did we leave C out of the final chain?
Why does the chain start with H--LSD--/M
When I do it, I keep getting C---/M --LSD.. H.
What am doing wrong? Please explain. I have been stuck for a few days now. Thank you
https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/chaining-conditional-statements-together-exercise/
I am looking for tips in RC from people who have managed to get -0 or -1 in RC. Thanks!
Hi guys,
Looking for some study buddies to BR tests together before our Jan test in a few weeks. I was in an old group but everybody was either done or taking some later tests. Gained significant improvement following their format, so hopefully I'll be able to find a couple of 170+ aiming friends to finish off the last part of the LSAT journey!
Here's what to expect:
General format:
Time:
I've touched a significant amount of PTs in the past, so here're my tentative plans for the rest of the weeks (and flexible to repeat old tests/sections if the majority of the group want to do a specific PT):
12/18 weekend: PT 80 Flex (2nd LR) + PT 90 1st LR (group BR on the 19th)
12/25 weekend: PT 82 Flex (1st LR) + PT 81 2nd LR (group BR on the 26th)
1/1 weekend: PT 88 Flex (1st LR) + PT 39 RC (group BR on the 2nd)
1/7: PT 86 full four (group BR time TBD)
1/9: PT 89 Flex (2nd LR) + PT 56 RC (group BR time TBD)
1/11: PT 91 full four (group BR time TBD)
1/13: PT 92 full four (group BR time TBD)
Feel free to email hkwang789@gmail.com if interested! Thanks and good luck everyone!
I got in my head after taking PT 85 last week and have been regressing ever since... I had been scoring low to mid 160s and scored a 157 on that PT. Since then I have been making sloppy errors and am second guessing if I'm even reading things correctly.
The January LSAT is in one month and I can't afford to lose focus or confidence in my abilities! Does anyone have any advice for staying laser focused on your test-taking process even when you start to doubt yourself?
I'm in the process of adding my first recommender and I find myself wondering if I am supposed to fill out all of this information (like the recommender's address for example), or if I can just submit everything and when they submit their letter, they will just fill it out themselves?
I'm sure this has been discussed here at some point, but I can't seem to find the answer to this question in a search of previous discussions.
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks!
Hi--
I am looking for a couple of people who are looking to take the Feb 2022 LSAT. I took the flex version last June and scored 155 and looking to break the 170's. I am hoping to work with others one PT a week, or do some isolated sections together. I am in PST and study between the hours of 9 am- 1pm and after 4pm. I am studying about 6 hrs. a day and still work part time but my work hours are remote and flexible. Thank you all and best of luck!
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Hey guys,
so I was watching JY’s explanation videos and I was cleaning my keyboard at the same time and by happenstance clicked on something and was led to a Live Commentary video where JY shows a footage of what he purported has done during his attempt at a run with paper test materials (RC 76 in particular). How many of these—or any other kinds of—“additional” videos are there, and do they also exist for each of LR, AR, and RC? Is there a way I can know where to find them without clicking through all the video explanations and scrolling down to the comment section to see if there are additional videos that happen to turn up?
Thanks for your help.
Hi everyone!
Recently, I've found myself wanting to know how others study and incorporate practice tests in a week. I often find myself getting frustrated when I am not able to stick to my weekly goals. Granted, quality study is greater than quantity, but I thought it'd be helpful to see how others set goals and manage their study in a week :) Would love to know what ya'll do! Thanks!
Hi Guys , i have done all LG PT from 50-92 and was wondering how useful it is to practice older PT LG section now? Or is it best to just drill all new ones again and ai for only perfection? Thank you!!
If you are feeling down its ok. Keep moving forward. It is easy to compare yourself and say “”this other person is moving so FAST!!!”” If you’re going 30mph every single day (figuratively speaking) and you don’t stop don’t worry about these other geniuses moving/ learning much quicker (60mph or even 80mph lol) you will 100% get there. The key is consistency daily. You will look back a months later and be surprised how much more you learned.
Go take a walk, hang out with your pets, hand out with your family, laugh, through the pain (LOL) and laugh at the fact that you put your self through this situation. If you're reading this then this is a sign to not worry, everything will be ok ;)
Hi folks, I am working on the last pieces of my applications. One school specifically asks for a diversity statement (optional if relevant obviously). The other 2 don't specially ask for it, they just have room for optional addenda; "is there anything else you would like to let us know". Is it appropriate for a diversity statement to go there or should I leave it out if they don't ask for it?
Thanks in advance for the help!
Hi Guys , i have done all LG PT from 50-92 and was wondering how useful it is to practice older PT LG section now? Or is it best to just drill all new ones again and ai for only perfection? Thank you!!
I've taken the LSAT twice 149 June 2020 and 161 October 2020. I am aiming to re-take the LSAT in June of 2022 after having taken about a 12 month "break." It was never intended to be a break (lol).
Does anyone have any strategies for returning to studying? Today, I'm beginning my journey back on the LSAT train having dedicated over 10 months to studying prior. I've done a majority of the PTs and am looking for tips on how to keep things fresh and engaging. I've also completed to core curriculum.
Hello, I am having a hard time figuring out why my timed scores are all over the place. When I go through my results in the "Analytics" page, the chart mapping my timed scores is like a series of waves - one test I`ll hit as low as a 155-158, the next will be in the 160-166 range, and then the next will be back down in the mid-high 150s. To make matters worse, my BR scores are all over 160 (I typically get between a 161-170 on my BRs).
To me, this signifies that I am CAPABLE of attained a low-mid 160 (which is what I'm shooting for on January`s test), but the inconsistent nature of my scores, coupled with the huge gap between my timed and BR scores, is really throwing me off. What am I doing wrong, and what, if anything, can I do to bridge this gap and consistently hit the 160+ mark?
For reference, I study 4-6 days/week (have been doing this for a few months), taking 1 PT/week, and have taken all of the LR and LG lessons. My weakest section is easily LG, as I average ~11-12 wrong per test, and I have wildly inconsistent RC and LR scores (I`ve gotten as low as -0 on RC, but typically get 2-5 wrong, and my LR can range from as high as 10 wrong to as low as -1, with 4-7 being average for me). Is there something wrong with my study habits? Has anyone else had a similar experience since starting 7Sage?
Any tips are greatly appreciated.
I am an older student (currently 35) and have been working in the legal field for around 10 years. My personal statement explains how my work experience influenced my decision to attend law school, but I was wondering if I should draft a diversity statement that demonstrates what my experience will bring.
Although the score sometimes drops 2-3 points from time to time, I've been mostly scoring exactly @ 167.
The problem is that the score never seems to go beyond 167 no matter what I do.
Sometimes I get -0 on Logic Games and get 167.
Sometimes I totally screw up on Logic Games and/or run out of time and still end up with 167.
When I do Blind Review or do the test under untimed condition, more often than not, my score is well above 170.
I am taking the January 2022 test and my goal is 170.
So frustrated.
Any help would be highly appreciated!!!
I have never taken the LSAT before and started studying in October for the January test. Many of you are probably asking why I am taking such a late test to apply for this cycle, but it's a long story. To give some context I took my diagnostic back on October 13th and scored 149. I applied for accommodations and got 50% extra time. Just yesterday after a couple months of studying I decided to take my first PT and scored 166. The PT was 37 which I know is older. I went from -13 in LG to -1, -6 in RC to -4, and from -13 in LR to -6. I know most of you would probably say you have to take more PTs, but with so little time left I am wondering what y'all would do with the remaining weeks and what PT numbers should I take and how many in order to see a reliable indicator of what my score is and what my knowledge and understanding is like for the material. Any help is appreciated and good luck to everyone.
I am currently applying to a few law schools (not early decision) with my scores from the past two lsats. Equally I have enrolled for the Jan lsat in hopes of getting a higher score for some of my less likely picks. My first question is do law schools have the knowledge of you being registered for future lsats at the point of application? If so, do law schools look at applications differently (i.e. more likely to waitlist or defer) candidates registered for future lsats?