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I wanted to pick everyone's brain about whether or not this would be a good idea.

I am considering asking a former employee of mine that I hired, trained, and supervised for over 2 years for a letter of recommendation. Assume that this individual has the potential to write a solid letter, free of errors in syntax, grammar and spelling. I no longer work with them, and am not connected to them in any way shape or form other than my previous experience as their boss.

I have of course seen countless mentions of getting LORs from former professors, and employers. I have never heard anyone mention getting an LOR from a former employee. I am in a situation where asking for a letter from a former professor is pretty much out of the question. I graduated 6 years ago, and never had the same professor for more than one class. I worked in the day, and went to school at night, had mostly adjunct professors, and really didn't get to know any of them (law school was not in my plans back then). I am sure I'll be able to get a letter or two from former supervisors without any problems. I can also get a letter from a coworker who is a practicing attorney.

The way I see it, a former employee (who has no reason to make me look good) would be able to provide insight into certain aspects of my abilities that my former bosses would not have seen. They could presumably talk about (among other things) my leadership skills, my understanding of complex policy, and my ability to relate said policy to them in a way that was easily digestible.

So what does everyone think? Is it a good idea to ask a former employee for an LOR? Why or why not?

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This forum is for opinions that are not mainstream regarding studying the LSAT! This forum is not meant to criticize or complain about the LSAT. Instead, it is intended for people to share unique studying tips, original thoughts regarding the LSAT structure and talk about how the LSAT studying process is a different journey for everyone but with surprising similarities! I would love to hear from everyone! I will get us started below with a couple of opinions that may spark some curiosity.

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Saturday, Oct 16, 2021

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Guys, if I can do it, you can do it too.

I started studying for the LSAT in January of 2021 with Khan Academy. After months and months of practice tests and hours of studying (around 5 a day) I took the test in April and got a 149. I had kept PT'ing in that range during my studying so I had expected it. I kept thinking either I am extremely dumb or something just isn't clicking... So I changed up my routine and paid for 7Sage. I began studying in the early morning 4 hours before work and taking the time after work to relax. I put a cap on how long I should study each day. I finished the core curriculum a few weeks ago and my first PT was a 155. I couldn't believe my eyes. Flash forward to now and I am PT'ing in the 170's. I just wanted to post this because I know how exhausting and disheartening this process can be. YOU CAN DO IT.

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Hi 7Sage Community!

My question is, how many questions can you get wrong in order to get a 160? LSAT's grading sort of confuses me with some tests needing more points and others needing less points to get a 160. I do not know if in the more new LSATs it is harder to get a 160.

So I have been studying for awhile and I am hitting around a 154. RC is my worst, averaging -11 (slow reader). In LG and LR, I am averaging around a -7 on both. I have only taken 4 practice tests so far. My goal score is a 160.

Thanks 7Ssage community!

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Is the LSAT above too late to take if I wanted to try to get in for the Fall of 2022? I just got promoted to a paralegal at a family law firm and have re-directed a lot of the already limited time I have available to effectively study applicable law for my job rather than the November LSAT I am registered for currently.

I really want to request a date change because of how stretched thin I am studying for both things.

Can I postpone my November LSAT to January 2022 and still have a chance of getting into school???

Any insight or advice would be super appreciated thank you!

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Has anyone had to file a formal complaint with LSAC about tech issues/wanting to retake? I filed yesterday and I’m wondering how long until I hear back…the retest is less than a week away so I need to know soon…

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Hi! I'm PT'ing 170-174 and am posting to ask if anyone else who consistently scores above 170 would like to have a 30 minute 1-on-1 Zoom call with me, in which we can take turns presenting the most valuable insights we've had in our studies so far. These insights can be general or specific-- whatever has helped you most!

I've completed the core curriculum and so personally would like to use our Zoom call as an opportunity to discuss insights outside the core curriculum. There will probably be a little bit of repetition/overlap, but let's mostly try to break new ground!

I can spend about 1/2 hour presenting the following:

  • 30 LR patterns that have helped me most (about 1/2 of these are not at all covered in the core curriculum)
  • 1 'in-out game' diagramming method (I came up with this), that allows me to quickly determine maximum in/ maximum out; this method accommodates 'forked' and 'chained' not-both/or rules
  • 10 specific LR practices that I employ (most are covered in at least one of J.Y.'s explanation videos, but these 10 are advanced, pretty subtle, and what have helped me most)
  • 1 RC annotation method that works for me
  • 2 RC passage reading habits that work for me
  • 20 content specific insights that have to do with RC question/AC wording that's commonly used
  • Message me personally if you're interested and we can set up a time! In your message, feel free to let me know what you've been scoring and maybe give a super brief preview of what you might want to present.

    Best of luck to everyone in their studies! :D

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    I made a little infographic of the 6 flaws on Canva. These are the first 6 out of the 21 most common flaws. I am trying to change things up from simple flashcards, Canva is a great resource to make interactive study material. Hope it helps! Going to make the rest of the common flaws today using the same template on Canva or maybe a little bit different one, I am not sure yet. BTW, please ignore any minor grammatical errors, such as misplaced commas. I can definitely clean it up when I have time to do so!

    https://www.canva.com/design/DAEtBXuadYE/vYSjFXZCK2xzO3cWBWGK3Q/view?utm_content=DAEtBXuadYE&utm_campaign=designshare&utm_medium=link&utm_source=homepage_design_menu

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    Hey everyone!

    I hope things are going well and studying hasn't been too stressful! I'm looking for some tips or advice, I've been plateauing in the mid 160's for about 3 weeks (I'd be content with that for sure, my goal score is right around there), but I was wondering if anyone had tips for the things I should work on to make a final jump? I got my first -0 today in the LG section (from -12 or 13 early on!) and my RC is something I'm pretty consistent with, usually -7ish. But my LR can be crazy inconsistent. Today the PT I took, both LR sections were 3 star difficulty, and I got -1 on one and -10 on the other. I've been blind reviewing and drilling the questions that the analytics page says I struggle with pretty often. I might've hit my peak score band because some of the questions are super difficult for me to understand even after BRing and watching explanation videos. It'd be nice to go up a little though so I could feel more at ease on test day.

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    Hi October test-takers,

    We all took it, and hopefully some of you have a good memory: Can anyone point me towards similar games to that last one, the one with the duets and violin and piano(?) or was it guitar(?) players.

    I'm pretty sure I bombed that section as it was my first after 45 minutes of ProctorU technical difficulties, but all the while on the other three games I was aware I was making dumb mistakes. On this one I was just lost. I'd like to tackle other games that are similar just to prep more and up my confidence for the November exam.

    Can anyone help point me to them? Even #admin

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    I primarily got the base of my knowledge from LSAT Trainer and PowerScore books and came to 7sage for mainly LG but also to improve on LR to further boost my score. I've been going through certain sections and today I was going to go over the valid/invalid argument forms because I thought they were going to be more obvious LR related however all of these lessons about existential quantifiers have just confused me.

    Not only do they take a concept which is intuitive for most people and turn it into a completely non intuitive form but I haven't seen a single direct application for this on the LSAT which makes it worth studying. I decided to google search this and figure out if it was work my time and came across this: https://www.thinkinglsat.com/post/ep-278-part-1-existential-quantifiers-crisis

    The LSAT is full of jargon. Some of it useful, and some of it…not so much. What makes matters worse is that many LSAT prep companies confuse students’ understanding by building unnecessary complexities into the study process. In this episode, the guys hear from a listener who just can’t quite understand “existential quantifiers,” hard as he may try. The thing is: the guys have no idea what “existential quantifiers” even means—especially not in the context of the LSAT. Nathan and Ben do their best to bring clarity to this confused 1L hopeful. Plus Nathan advocates for doing more inquiring and less note taking, the guys hear about a life-changing 20-point improvement, and they offer up a PSA about talking and LSAT-ing.

    Thoughts?

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    I took the test on 12th. During my first LG section, when there was still around 8 mins left. I was doing the hardest duet one. Suddenly, the proctor shouted at me over the MIC that he wanted to see my ID. I didn't know what happened. I was so scared.

    I took the ID and showed it to him.

    He asked me: Are you done with your test yet? I said no(almost crying), "it's not, there is still eight minutes left."

    He said: Oh, I thought you were done. Go ahead with your test.

    He didn't press pause for the whole conversation, which cost me about two minutes, and I didn't solve this LG.

    I am a non-native speaker, and the proctor also has strong accent. So I didn't understand her what he was requesting at the beginning.

    And because of this incident I dumped the next session RC as well.(luckily someone told me the second section is experiment) I had very hard test make up. LG-RC(rap)-RC(Canadian writer- Paternalism) -LR

    I've been thinking about it since Tuesday, it's so infuriating that I completed all the security testing before the exam. Have any of you guys ever been interrupted in the middle of an exam and asked to see the ID?

    I quit my job on April and prepare it full time. This is my second lsat. I have been PTing consistently around 170. But I think I have been crewed up on this time.

    Why why why? Why some random proctor can interrupted you on such a high stake test and bear almost no cost. Did he do that just for fun?

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    Can someone explain to why answer choice B is incorrect for PT 91 Logic Game #1 Question 2? Why is answer choice C correct for this question? Thank you.

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    Hey everyone,

    I have just taken the October LSAT (hoping for the best!) and have been starting work on my law school applications. When deciding what to write about for my personal statement, I felt compelled to write about my experience going through school as somebody with a learning disability. I intend to talk about the challenges I faced due to my neurodiversity and the ways I overcame those obstacles.

    I am a little concerned that because this is my topic of choice, law schools will assume I took the LSAT with accommodations. I did not, in part because I did not have documentation of my disability within the past five years and in part because I honestly felt I didn't need them to succeed. I know that law schools should not and probably do not judge test takers with accommodations any differently, however I have in the past experienced discrimination in academia due to my learning disabilities and am nervous about law schools somehow looking at my test score differently due to any possible assumptions.

    My instinct tells me I'm being ridiculous and should let go of that fallacious assumption and have faith that the admission deans aren't biased and take comfort in the fact that if they were, that's not a school I'd want to go to anyways. However, another part of me feels that I should add an addendum specifying that I didn't have accommodations on the LSAT, maybe adding that it's in part because I didn't qualify for them due to a lack of recent documentation.

    If anybody has advice, please share it. That said, the a central theme of my PS is getting past the shame and stigma associated with neurodiversity, so it does admittedly feel disingenuous to even be writing this post and I feel more inclined to simply not write this addendum and let things unfold naturally. Just curious to see if anybody else has a different perspective.

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    Hello 7sagers!

    My LSAT study buddy and I BR together. However, we are both scoring around the same on our actual score (low-mid 150's) and BR (mid-high 160's). We are looking for someone who is scoring higher to BR with us. Any advice would be helpful.

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