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I've noticed that when I practice questions on LR I consistently get the harder half wrong and the easier half right. Does any one have advice for how I can possibly improve and polish up my LR skills. This is my hardest section on the exam, and have just begun to understand the differences in question types. I feel like I am missing something to unlock getting these harder questions correct. Thank you guys for any insight!

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My untimed score was a whopping 13 points higher than a clean timed PT. It was 7 points higher than my usual blind review score. Other than LG, I didn't use THAT much more time than 35 minutes. Maybe somewhere around 45 minutes. Anyone curious as to how we can efficiently push through this moat?

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I am confused on one of the lesson. Lesson 11 question 2 says that it's not an argument because the author is only reporting what the researchers concluded. Lesson 16 question 4 has the same scenario that the author is sharing what researchers concluded but yet this one does have a premise and conclusion. Just wondering how this is different. Thank you

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Hello folks,

I have signed up for August 2021 LSAT, and I am not confident enough that I could obtain the score that I am aiming for.

Would October 2021 LSAT day be okay for Fall 2022 application?

Thank you for your sage advice as always! 😁🙏

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I'm debating to cancel or keep my June 2021. It was about 90th percentile but I'm shooting for 170+ and faced some issues on test day. I think I can do better but don't know if a cancel would look worse than just keeping my score. Any advice?

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Hello,

I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and have applied for accommodations for the August 2021 LSAT. I am curious if this information is given to schools by LSAC/my undergraduate institution and if there is any affect upon admissions decisions if so.

Thanks!

#admissions

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when I do RC untimed, I get -4 but when I do it timed I average -11. I have been using a new approach which helps me understand the passage more, but any suggestions on how to transition to do this timed by the August test?

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I've been studying with 7Sage for about a year now and I have a question regarding embedded conditionals. I know there's already a lesson on how to translate an embedded conditional; however, I found a weird conditional while studying the LSAT and was wondering how you would go about translating this one as it's the opposite of the embedded conditional.

What is taught in the embedded conditional module on 7Sage is that when you see, "If A, then /B unless C" you just translate it to, "A and B, then C"

I understand this. But while studying LR, I found an unusual type of embedded conditional that goes the other way around. How would you go about translating this? The embedded conditional, I forgot what specific PT/ question, said something along the lines of: "/A unless B, then C." Just confused on how to translate this as this is not the same as the former example provided by J.Y. Would it still be the same translation? I don't think it would, right?

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/mastery-embedded-conditional/

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/mastery-embedded-conditional-proof/?ss_completed_lesson=1107

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Hey Everyone! I wanted to ask you all for advice. I recently took the June LSAT and got a 158. Since this is my first LSAT, I have the option until today to cancel my score but im not sure if I should. I've listened to most opinions and understand law schools don’t care much about your past scores and only need to report your highest score. I plan on taking it again in August with a goal of a 170+. So, is there any benefit for cancelling or keeping? I did pay for the score preview so I don’t want to waste money if there’s even little benefit. Would a single score or a score improvement look better? Thanks so much.

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Hi all, I am currently in the 172-175 range for PTs but have not been able to do as well on the actual LSAT. I have taken the real thing multiple times and my high is a 169.

I am looking for a study buddy or tutor, if available, with whom I can talk about the LSAT, run through problem sets and individual Qs, etc.

Is anyone interested? It would probably be best if it was someone scoring in the high 160s or higher.

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do you guys ever end up hating the lsat and just feeling so so stupid? sometimes ill do something and feel confident then check my test scores and im like omg what is wrong with me. I end up beating myself up over answer choices and feel like no matter how hard I work I'm constantly missing something. When I do well I feel energized and happy and when I do bad I end up calling myself names and end up going into self hatred mode. is this normal?

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So I know the most recent PT's are obviously the most representative of the real thing... but I am running short on these and so I have had to now turn to older PT's to compensate and get that "never before seen" experience.

I know the test has changed a lot since the 1990's but could performance on these still help serve as an accurate predictor of one's scores?

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Hello! Due to a lot of unfortunate circumstances (loss of job, funeral, etc) I have fallen a good few weeks behind on the study schedule. Whenever they explain the study schedule they say if you fall behind you can adjust it but I am not sure how to do that? I am trying to adjust it so its more evenly spread out on what I need to catch up on rather than just overdoing myself and burning out trying to catch up. How do I do this? Thank you!

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How long did it take you to find that balance where you know you need to slow down on certain questions?

I'll go through my BR and miss like 3 stupid ones, and than perhaps 2-3 more difficult ones. I feel like just avoiding the small mistakes would get me to a consistent 165 at least.

I think I like have an understanding of all the questions and stuff. I suppose my challenge is the execution.

P.S. if anyone has any general or specific questions on how to get to early 160ish avg score thats in the 150s feel free to send a message. It's helpful for me to walk through someone a LR or RC question that may not understand.

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Hi all, I am unsure if I am going through a natural digression from my typical performance or if it is a symptom of burnout. I have recently began to do considerably worse on PTs and sections, although if feel that I still understand the material fairly well. I will say that I have been getting less sleep than usual recently, but I am not convinced that is the only reason for my atypical performance. What are the symptoms of burnout and how do you treat it while not being entirely absent from studying? Does this sound like a natural progression in scoring that everyone goes through?

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Hi all, I have been tracking necessary questions for about two weeks. I was on a roll getting 5/5’s from the syllabus course and now the questions are getting harder and harder and I’m not quite able to negate as fast, nor do I understand what I am negating half the time or how I come up with the right answer for these harder questions. I’m going to be honest, it’s the stimulus that I flat out don’t understand sometimes and I always eliminate down to two answer choices and choose the wrong one still (again choosing the wrong one because I can’t negate very well). I always blind review and watch the explanation videos but it’s always until after does it make sense. I can’t seem to make this jump on my own. 2 weeks ago, weaken questions were my worst and I drilled and drilled and now I get them all right, but these necessary assumption ones are the death of me. Can someone try to dumb it down for me since obviously I can’t get it? Thank you, I am not a quitter but I am getting really discouraged on this particular question type.

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Hi 7-sagers,

I am planning to take the august lsat and aiming for 171+

My current stats by section:

LR -3 to -1

LG -1 to 0

RC -11 to -4

My average LSAT score is 168, currently taking one pt every 3days. Is it possible to improve my RC and bring my average up to 171+ In a month?

What are some good advices/materials for RC?

Thank you!!!!

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So I picked A in both the first run and the blind review. I'm thinking the reason it's wrong is that the action did not cause harm and the prompt explicitly states morally bad actions cause harm. I considered E in the blind review but ruled it out because I wanted to be right about A and thought he could not have foreseen the kid being hit by a bike. But of course, when you're watching a kid that's why you want to keep them out of the street--so they don't get hit by anything.

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Hi everyone,

Was curious to know if anyone has tried Ellen Cassidy's method of the translation and CLIR and if they've found success with it? Also, how did you implement it in your prep AND practice tests? Appreciate it!

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Hi all!

I feel like people often make a distinction between recent PTs that are available and older tests which some would say are less difficult. My question is: what counts as one of these recent tests? Is it anything after PT70? PT80? I would like to make sure to save those for when things get "real".

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I was reviewing a question I have seen many, many... many times over. PT40.S1.14 for anyone interested.

Today as I was analyzing the stimulus, my pre-phrase for the flaw was that it was the classic argument from ignorance fallacy (an assertion that a claim is either true or false because of a lack of evidence to the contrary; aka "you didn't disprove/prove this, so you're wrong/I'm right"). This is an informal logical fallacy.

I went to the answer choices and liked C the best. It reads, "The argument takes for granted that if the truth of one claim implies the truth of a second claim, then the falsity of the first claim proves that falsity of the second claim." I thought this wasn't written exactly as I had in mind, but it described the flaw in formal logic. The even more classic sufficient/necessary mix-up/incorrect negation/incorrect reversal (all of these describe the same formal error). Oldest trick in the book. And then the lightbulb in my brain went off.

Answer choice C is saying the argument assumed that if A --> B, then /A proves /B. Isn't this very similar to that argument from ignorance fallacy? You didn't prove A to me (you presented /A), so your claim about B is wrong (/B).

Basically, the sufficient/necessary flaw is the formal logic mirror to the informal argument from ignorance fallacy. The former requires a tight argument structure, while the latter is more flexible with looser language. In essence, however, they are the same error. Until now, I had kept formal and informal logic as separate and unrelated, but they actually overlap. And this is exactly how the test writers will disguise/describe the same flaws in different ways-- not just in the stimuli but in answer choices as well. 🤯

Thinking about the contrapositives is also interesting. The formal logic error of an incorrect reversal is pretty obvious: B --> A. But if we consider the "expressed contrapositive" (in quotes because I just made up this term and don't think there is such a thing in informal logic), then it's something like, "Your conclusion about B is not wrong, so you proved A." Your conclusion exists, so your premises are proven? Lol, wtf? No wonder these are logical fallacies.

Anyway, maybe I'm slow and everyone already knew this, lol. It was an a-ha moment for me so I wanted to write it out. If I have made a mistake, someone please correct me. If you have other realizations about the flaws/fallacies/question types, please share as well!

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-40-section-1-question-14/

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RC is my weak section. I am retaking in August so im focusing heavy on it. I am using a new strategy (I was just flat out reading before, forgetting everything and getting lost). This strategy is working, I got -4 compared to -11 on a section. But im doing it untimed to make sure I do it properly.... any suggestions on how to slowly transition this into timed sections by the August test?

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