Is anyone else not able to put the full 35:00 mins??

Hi! This is obviously a long shot, but my scores are in the 140s right now and I am trying to get to at least the low to mid 160s. I have finished most of the core curriculum at 7sage, have been drilling in the 5lbs manhattan book, went through the powerscore bible and the Loophole by Ellen Cassidy but I am seeing very slow improvements. I started about 1.5 months ago and have been studying 10-14 hours a day while looking for jobs and also working a part-time job. This pandemic has also brought a lot of stressors into my life, so I am not in the best state of mind and am having trouble retaining information. Also, not seeing any improvements on my LSAT is definitely adding to my stress. I am taking the test in November but will definitely retake it in January. Anyone with a study schedule or strategy that has helped them make big improvements in their score please let me know what worked for you. I am open to trying new tactics as my old ones are not working.

Hi guys i created this forum to try and get some reverse splitters connected! I myself and pretty much a super reverse splitter with a very high GPA and much lower GPA. I wanted to talk admissions and success rates with everyone! I have been accepted to a top choice but waitlisted at a "safe" school. Welcome to being a reverse splitter lol

Hello all,

So I have 7 credits of pass/fail from undergraduate and I just have a quick question. I was wondering how LSAC uses this when calculating GPA? Do they just use classes that I received a grade for to calculate my GPA? Thanks in advance.

I think I want a study partner for weekly check ins who is planning to take the LSAT more than once in 2021. My first exam is January, but I plan to take it summer and fall next year too. I'm hoping to find someone who is not in a rush for the high score, who is making a change mid-career, who protects/prioritizes study time and who is a PARENT. Message me.

Compare answers/discuss the test itself and general woes. Looking for one partner of any score!!

It seems like a lot of law schools want all time periods accounted for. If I'm applying as a college senior, do I need to account for every summer? For example, I didn't do anything the summer after sophomore year except tutor a kid. And during quarantine (March - August 2020) I mostly just studied for the LSAT. So those spaces are blank on my resume, should I add an addendum?

If I took summer classes at an institution and got my credits transferred, do I still need to send my transcript from that institution?

Hi all,

Taking the LSAT in Jan. I've completed the CC and The Loophole in the LSAT Logical Reasoning. I've taken 8 prep tests with my latest and highest being a 174 on PT 69 (my last three scores have be 167, 170, and 174, spaced about a week apart each). I know I'm not out of the woods yet so any tips on how to approach the next 3 months would be greatly appreciated!

Hello Everyone,

Just wondering if any November test takers have chosen their testing date/time? Im not sure when we get the ability to do that. Any insight would be appreciated!

Nov. test-taker. If you are scoring -2 to -3 timed you will be in good company. We consider it helpful to see how others approach the questions. This would only be a few meetings to blind review sections.

Hey! It says on the LSAC website that built-in webcams are okay, however, I will be taking the exam on a desktop computer. I've read that the proctor will ask you to show them the entire room and it's just not possible with a built-in webcam.

Has anyone taken the FLEX already with a desktop and can advise on this? Do I need to rent or purchase a webcam? Thanks guys

I think I've been taking quite a lot of pts over the past months but my RC score is the same as the score I've started out with (-9 mostly on the old pts to -13 at my worst, which I get on hard recent RC), which is frustrating.

I do blind reviews and every time I get questions wrong, I make a mental note to myself not to get the same question types wrong again, but I end up getting wrong anyway on different passages. I feel like every time I blind review, I'm just gaining an understanding of that specific question in that specific passage, but not know how to effectively tackle new questions on passages I have never encountered.

Is there a way to improve RC?

So a school that is not really at the top of my list sends me an email today saying they "haven't yet made a decision" and I could send in supplemental information if I wanted. The 7Sage predictor says I have a 98% chance for admission. I applied here for a "safe" school. I honestly feel kind of manipulated, should I withdraw my application? Or any other advice would be helpful! I have already gotten into schools that are vastly superior in my opinion.

Hi all,

My initial diagnostic test was at 149 and I completed the entire LSAT Trainer curriculum and at the end of it I scored 160. I am having a hard time improving my score, consistently scoring 160-165 range. I get about 6-8 wrong in every section. I just recently discovered 7sage and have been kind of regretting not starting off here, and feel like I may have wasted too much of my time on the LSAT Trainer.

I have been foolproofing LG because I know that's the easiest to improve, and I do see improvements in my reasoning, but under timed conditions I'm not yet able to fully grasp the concepts and answer all questions correctly. However in BR, I can score around -2. Any advice on how to get quicker at thinking through and understanding LG would be great.

I'm not sure how to tackle LR and RC, so any methods or pieces of advice would be really helpful! I think figuring out a way to improve in these 2 sections can help me improve my overall score.

Ideally I'd like to score between 170-175 and I know I probably won't be ready until the next cycle of LSAT exams, but I'd like to gather as much info as possible to better map out a game plan. I appreciate all the advice in advance!!

In the recent months, I've seen posts on Reddit where people are PTing all time highs of 160+, right after the change to Flex. Not sure about here, but I presume its likely the same. The format of Flex makes LG and RC worth so much more than before. Also, there is a consensus that LG is the easiest to improve at. Now that there's only one LG, RC, and LR section for Flex, it'd be far easier to get a higher score by even only improving your LG since it's weight is worth the same as LR and RC.

I'm not sure how all of this is going to impact the admission cycle for 2021. A little worried about this, but I suspect previous admission scores won't necessarily be a good indication of what scores will get you in for 2021. I suspect it will probably be a few points higher.

What are your thoughts?

Hello all,

I was initially going to wait until after taking Nov LSAT but I just couldn’t wait... so I did it. I applied. It was really exciting and now the anticipation begins. I do have questions. I will go ahead and take the Nov lsat regardless. But will the updated score get sent to the schools I applied to before the decision is rendered? What if the decision is rendered after I take the lsat? I’m guessing I will have to go through the application process again for all of the law schools with the updated score?

Does anyone know where I can find a logical reasoning questions categorized by the flaw (Ad hom, equivocation,etc.)

Hi everyone, hope your studies are going well. I just wanted to share an explanation of SUFFICIENT and NECESSARY conditions. This explanation is something I randomly came up with and I hope it works for someone trying to understand how that works in LAWGIC.

Explanation of the Sufficient/Necessary condition:

I want you to imagine that you are trying to enter into the most secure building on earth. There is only one way into the building, and that’s through a giant electronic glass door.

Conditions:

YOU are on the outside.

YOU have a proximity card that can be scanned to open the door

There is also a buzzer outside the door that you can ring.

When you do ring the buzzer, the door can be opened on the inside by a SECURITY guard.

Some days your proximity card works and some days it does not. Depending on if you are needed in the building on that day.

So there we have it.

Now:

SUFFICIENT: You scan your proximity card OR you ring the buzzer.

NECESSARY: The door opens

Scenario one:

a. The necessary thing you needed to enter the building: DOOR OPENING, has failed.

b. If that door failed to open what else do we know? Well, your card didn’t work or the guard was just not going to let you in that morning. IN short, door didn’t open. Thus all the things that could’ve made it open... someone walking ahead of you or leaving the building or using your card or the guard pressing the buzzer didn’t happen. )

I really hope this helps. It's lengthy but I imagine it would be much simpler as a short cartoon.

I'm a non URM with a 3.17 undergrad GPA. I wasn't at all prepared when I got to college and didn't have the maturity for it. After 2 years I had a 2.2 GPA and over the next few, worked my way back up to a 3.17. I'm aiming for a 170 LSAT and I'm not too worried about hitting at least 168+ but definitely think 170 is doable. (PTing at 165 after 5 or 6 weeks with lots of room for improvement on LG where I'm currently -7 to -10)

How much do admissions tend to care about the trajectory vs the flat value of the GPA? I definitely plan to write about this growth in maturity and change in mindset that allowed me to grow from a terrible student to a solid one but I know a 3.17 cumulative is low.

Ideally looking to get into UT.

Thanks all.

Hey! Does anybody know if you ordered a score preview for the October LSAT-Flex when it will become available? And where will we be able to see it? In LSAC or Proctor U?

Hi guys, I just have a question for those applying this cycle. Have you guys received emails from certain law schools encouraging you to apply and granting you fee waivers as incentive?? I received a couple, but I don't know if I should take them seriously. Some are pretty dope schools and I just don't think I am even in their range sometimes so I don't know if I should take this as legit interest or if they're just fishing for candidates..... I just don't want to get in over my head and think that they actually want me in their student body lmao Regardless, I will be applying to some of them and the fee waiver is definitely nice considering how much LSAC takes from us already lol I know I saw a discussion about this a couple weeks ago, but can't find it so I am making my own. Any opinions and answers would be appreciated! Thank you

Hi, I have two questions which might have one simple answer.

Can someone please explain to me why I shouldn't do a biconditional every time it says if m, not k (m --> /k). I mean the contrapositive would be if k, not m (k --> /m). So why not write it as m (---) /k ?

How does biconditional affect the rule of "if Sufficient condition not satisfied rule goes away and if necessary condition satisfied rule goes away"? when there is "m (---) /k" and the question says "not k" then the rule goes away?

Hi did anyone skip sections and go right to the tests? I'm kind of anxious to see if I have retained what I have learned.

Hi!! I'm applying to JD and MA in international policy programs this cycle. Because I've been so focused on the LSAT, I haven't studied for or taken the GRE. The schools I'm applying to say they're GRE-blind this year (and I know some take the LSAT as a substitute). What does GRE-blind mean exactly? Will not taking the GRE hurt in any way? How is this different than GRE-optional? #help