Thank you 7Sage. JY always had me laughing, made the LSAT a fun experience for me. Sorry I’m not more excited and grateful I’m still in total shock to be honest. Would love to talk about the test in general with whatever anyone needs.

I cannot thank you all enough for creating such a great platform and fostering an equally amazing online community. I don't have any extraordinary studying tips , but here are some small things I learned from my experience that may be useful for some people out there:

LG: July was my first LSAT, and though I was prepared, I underestimated my nerves. I was notably slower on LG, my first section, especially on the first game. If I were to do my studying over again I don't know how I would simulate the pressure, but I would really make sure I can do the easiest/easier games well under JY's recommended time consistently and had practiced making inferences upfront more exhaustively.

RC: I don't have much advice on RC. I didn't use JY's summary method nor do I read one comparative passage first then eliminate. I was always good at RC (-0 to -2 from the start) and found being very fast and then going back to flagged questions effective for me. For this method, I found being aggressive on tough questions by crossing out as many choices as possible, quickly moving on, then going back at the end to decide between two choices effective. I firmly believe the fact that I read a lot across a variety of disciplines was the main cause for my consistency.

LR: I wish I had practiced LR more effectively. In particular, I should have spent more time mastering PARA/PF questions using lawgic. I got them correct often enough, but I'd spend too much time on tougher ones, leading to less time for other difficult questions. My advice would be to almost foolproof them like logic games. One thing I did for these questions I haven't heard before is that I would replace the language in an answer choice with the language from the stimulus while reading the choices in my head to see if it fits the structure––worked well for easy-medium ones.

General:

Hope at least something I've said is helpful for at least one person out there! Happy to provide anymore info I can!

When submitting transcripts do we have have to include the transcript request form that LSAC provides us with? My school doesn't allow me to submit that form. It does it electronically and I have to input my LSAC ID number.

For a while, I thought I'd never be able to make one of these posts. I'm so so overjoyed to say that I received a 173 on the July Flex test after about 15 months of studying! I'm a really slow reader, so the LSAT was so challenging. I began around a 148 diagnostic - the exact number is uncertain since I took it with breaks between sections lol.

I've gone through a lot of materials. I began with The LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim because I'd heard it was good for people who are self-studying. It was a good primer, but it didn't go in-depth enough to prepare me for the hard questions or teach me conditional logic. I then moved to the PowerScore Bibles, which helped me get to -0/-1 on most LG sections. My LR somewhat improved, but I still felt very unsure throughout the section and had trouble eliminating trap answers. My RC was stuck around -7/-8 even after going through the book, which was really discouraging.

I took the February LSAT after about nine months of studying. Looking back, I should not have taken it because I was not comfortable with the test. My PT average was about 163-164. I got a 161, which was so disappointing. I decided to do what I should have done from the beginning and get a 7Sage subscription. I went through the entire Core Curriculum, even the parts I thought I had already mastered.

I think after doing all those practice sets and seeing so many questions, things just "clicked" and seemed doable. In LR, I adopted the mindset that I was looking for the test-masters' tricks in each question and that I was outsmarting the test. RC suddenly didn't seem so daunting. I could hear J.Y.'s voice saying "well we don't know that from the passage" when looking at wrong answer choices. Follow his advice to read slowly, spend time with the passage, and answer questions quickly. By the time I got to the July test, my PT average was about 171-172, with one 175.

I'm no expert on this test, but I've found these kinds of posts helpful in the past. Here are some tips I found useful:

Overall:

LR:

RC:

Sorry for the long post! Good luck everyone!

Finally, I want to say that my heart goes out to those who lost scores. I know the emotional toll that this test can have, and I hope LSAC can find more ways to help.

Sometimes when getting stuck on questions it's just a matter of talking it out with someone but now I think my mom and sister are slightly over that. I was wondering if anyone would be up for hashing out tough problems together in hopes of learning more and studying in new ways. I was thinking we could set up a zoom call or something... Send me a message if this type of studying is helpful for you too.

I'm 9 years out of undergraduate and 6 years out of graduate school. My GPA is the same from both, but I don't think it reflects what I am capable of now for the following reasons:

In addition to that, I ended up taking an extra year to complete my graduate program. Basically, I signed up for "independent study" (my job) for a few semesters until I had the time to thoughtfully complete my final paper. It will look like I took three years to complete the program (which, to be fair, ended up in dual degrees). Does this warrant an explanation?

Anyone have any thoughts as to what would be worth including, if anything?

Hi all! I want to post an update since I sat for my second/final test and I hit my goal, increasing my score a total of 27 points from my initial diagnostic over a year and a half. I went from the 9th percentile (yes, you read that right) to the 91st percentile! It wouldn't feel right to end my LSAT journey without a final post to the community that helped me achieve this. Again - THANK YOU to the entire 7sage family; I want to give back, so please reach out to me if you want.

Good luck to everyone this cycle and to all who are just starting out. Know your hard work will pay off, and most importantly: be patient with your brain. There are so many resources for encouragement, theory, practice etc. and it can be a bit overwhelming but you have to find what works for you. There was a point in my studying where everything just sort of clicked, and once you see the test in that degree of transparency, the whole studying process changes. It isn't that you can suddenly zero out on every section easily. Instead, it feels as though you were playing 1v1 basketball with an NBA player in a barely lit room for a couple months and the lights are fully turned on. It's still a freaking professional basketball player but at least you know what you're working with.

Moving from stage "lights barely on" to stage "lights fully on" is attainable, but cannot be rushed. Us humans have a tendency to want to cut corners. Imagine trying to cut corners while trying to beat Michael Jordan one on one. YOU CAN'T CUT CORNERS WHEN LEARNING THE LSAT. Read that twice if you need to.

Wow, I don't even know what to say right now. I've come a loooooong way - It took me longer than most people to improve and understand the concepts, but after 2+ years of hard work and 7sage- everything has finally paid off! My biggest struggle with this test was honestly motivation and CONFIDENCE aside from the concepts themselves.

I am so happy and grateful for 7sage, everyone on here that helped me with questions as I went through the CC especially @"Heart Shaped Box" as well as JY for doing the BR calls.

Let me know if you guys have any questions regarding studying- Although, I'm not an expert and I am sure everyone on here is already really smart and on their way to success. Best of luck. You can do this.

I diagrammed the stimulus as follows:

Premise 1: universities moral and intellectual----> /best selling books are frivolous

Premise 2: best selling books are frivolous

Conclusion: /universities moral and intellectual

With this diagram I was able to quickly eliminate answer choices A and B. However, I really struggled to eliminate C, D, and E. Nonetheless, I struggled with finding a reason to eliminate C and D.

C.) The stimulus tells us that at university bookstores the only publication that sells better than Gossip Review is TV Today. I thought that part of the stimulus allowed us to conclude that most people are purchasing TV Today or Gossip Review.

D.) The stimulus tells us that many people who attend this country's universities are failing their moral and intellectual responsibilities. I found this answer choice to be as equally attractive as E. I get that this answer choice is focused on the people who attend the university and the stimulus is placing a focus on the universities as a whole, but I think it's a logical assumption to say that the students are failing since they are a part of the university as a whole. If the university as a whole fails then so do all the other groups of people who make up the university.

Since I was able to use conditional logic for this question, should I just look for the conclusion that best matches and move on?

I would greatly appreciate someone's input in trying to figure out why C and D are wrong.

Thanks in advance!

I am really struggling with this question and I honestly think it's because I may have misunderstood the stimulus. My understanding is that milk, the final product that we see at the store, requires the use of a bottle and raw milk. The bottler is the person who purchases raw milk from farmers and uses it to create the jug of milk that we see at the grocery store. The stimulus proceeds to tell us that complaints about the bottlers pulling up the prices tend to happen when the milk bottler has had to purchase raw milk from farmers, at a higher price than usual. The author of the stimulus uses this to show that it's not the milk bottler's fault that the price of milk at the grocery store has gone up, but rather the blame should be on the farmer. If the farmer hadn't pulled up the price of raw milk then the bottler would not have had to pull up the price of their final product (i.e. the milk jug at the store).

The word "markup" was something I interpreted to mean revenue, not sure if that's actually what was meant by that. From that I drew out:

Scenario 1: Price of raw milk goes up

Price of milk at grocery store:

Goes up

Markup:

small

Scenario 2: Price of raw milk falls

Price of milk at grocery store:

Goes down

Markup:

greatest

I ended up choosing answer choice D, but it was not the accredited answer. I would greatly appreciate if someone could read through my interpretation of the stimulus and help me figure out where I went wrong.

Thanks in advance!

So I'm 43 years old, with 2 little ones. Have been a teacher for the past 11 years. I am super frustrated, have been studying for the past 5 years off and on, stuck on lower 40's and with a low gpa (2.5) . I don't want to go to a fancy school, I don't care about that, I just want my JD and pass the bar in Texas. Unfortunately when I was younger didn't take school seriously, no career goals hence the gpa. I don't want to quit but failure hurts and dragging my family is painful, although my wife is very supportive. I can be a performing clown and making a living on the street she'll tell me as long as your happy it's ok. I thought I wanted this but now I have doubts. I want to be a law student because I KNOW it's challenging and will help me grow, and will be something I can use to help people on a different capacity. Teaching has been a beautiful blessing but now I want to grow and I want to know how it feels to slay this dragon! If you have solid wise encouragement or good support to give this dream up please post. I don't want to waste time with inconsiderate responses, I'm too old for that. ha! Also,just started the 7sage courses a couple of weeks ago. Thank you'll I appreciate any good advice.

I studied full time for three months and scored 160 after a PT Avg of 167 and BR 171. The official score was just a point above my diagnostic. I really believe I can break 170, but this is pretty disappointing. Should I re-take in October or November?

We know many of you have wanted to try the new Flex format with only three sections without a workaround like making three problem sets or just leaving a section blank. So, we are happy to announce that we have just rolled out a Flex simulator option for every PrepTest (all 95)! If you don't see the new option, try doing a force refresh.

To use it with a PrepTest, check the box labeled "Simulate Flex" next to the PrepTest name in the digital tester. This will skip the second LR section. The scaled scores generated from Flex mode uses the same methodology as our Flex Score Convertor. Because no one outside of LSAC knows how Flex is scored, this is just an educated guess. See the screenshot below:

You can apply the flex option to any PrepTest that is not completed. So you can switch to Flex if you are still doing the test or doing blind review, but not if you already scored your test. If you already entered answers or other data for the second LR section, then the Flex option will erase any data for that section when you score the test.

Please let us know if you encounter any issues.

Still cannot believe my score -- Thank you so much JY (you're a beast) and the 7sage community. Anything is possible with 7sage!

Hello everyone,

I am currently doing some LR problems and I've had a recurring problem. When writing out conditional statements, I am sometimes confused whether a subject is part of the conditional statement or it is a subset of another item. This is best illustrated in an example. On preptest 21, LR 2, section 3 question 22 the stim states: "Anatomical bilateral symmetry is a common trait..." When doing the problem I wrote: ABS --> C. However, in his explanation JY simply put C, rather than the conditional relationship. So how do I know when to write a conditional or when to indicate a trait/subset by itself (ABS is common = C - ABS vs ABS--->C)?

Thank you in advance for your help.

#HELP

I'm trying to set my study schedule for the Nov 14 test and it's stating that it will take me 1.3 years to complete the course. I've tried to change the weekly hours, but I'm still getting crazy study schedules. Suggestions?

Hello. I'm having trouble wrapping my head around why the correct answer choice is A. The second sentence of the stimulus says that NO OTHER ORGANISM has a greater resistance to cancer than sharks. Answer Choice A states that "no organism resists cancer better than sharks do, but some resist cancer as well as sharks." This is true according to the analysis given for the second sentence in the stimulus, and therefore it does not match the question stem criteria of selecting an answer that could be true EXCEPT.

Consequently, I don't understand why answer choice B is incorrect.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-1-question-11/

Hey everyone, I am currently at a loss about how to explain what the LSAT is to someone who has never heard about it. I am trying to take less shifts at work explaining that I am overwhelmed with LSAT prep (taking aug test) along with my other two university courses. I feel like those who have never taken the test or prepped for it just don't understand the difficulty and instead seem doubtful of the workload a student who is prepping has and see it as an excuse.

Super random question I know, but its something I just don't know how to explain hahaha.

Thanks!!

Does anyone know if it's likely that the October LSAT will be LSAT Flex? Also for LSAT Flex, are you allowed to use scrap paper for reading comp notes since you can't really annotate on the computer besides highlighting?

I don't want to bomb the October one and have to wait until the spring to take again. Does LSAC frown upon people who take it more than twice?

I took the July Flex test and scored a 167. I was pretty nervous, so I think I had a harder time than I would on my PTs but I was generally scoring between 166-171. My goal score was a 168/169 to hit the medians at most of the schools I'm looking at and a170 for my reaches. I plan on applying in early October so I'd need to take the test again in about a month (August) to get my applications in. Is it worth the time I would spend studying for a couple more points (and the stress of only having a month to study) or should I focus on other parts of my application? I have a 4.1 GPA and am looking at T20 schools.

I've been doing straight PTs/BRing for about a month now. I'm planning on taking the August test so am now taking tests from the 72-81 range and then will take some newer ones after that. I've been really struggling with the tests in this range. I've been averaging 169-172, but now I've gotten several scores in the 164-167 range. I'm looking for advice on how to get out of this slump and get back to my normal range especially since I want to score 170+ on test day. Any advice would be appreciated!!

Should I take full tests or should I isolate Logic Game sections and fool proof after. I am currently getting consistent 15/23 questions right for LG and want to get to mastery by my October Test. I tried drilling a few sections this week and it somewhat helped but I don't know how to get to mastery. Any advice would help and I am sure many have asked such questions before. Thanks!

I can't decide whether or not to sign up for the October LSAT. I got my July FLEX scores back today and I made a 155. However, I was aiming for a 160+ as I was PT-ing in the 160-162 range. Do you think it is worth retaking? My top choice has a 158 median score. Additionally, would I be able to improve that much till October? Please send any tips you can my way. Additionally, since October results won't come back until about Mid-October, is that considered too late to apply? I don't want to lose a spot because of something like this.

Thanks

Are we allowed to use full screen (f11) on chrome during the test? Thanks!