Hey guys,

With all these major success stories being posted (congrats to you all, you're an inspiration for the rest of us), i would love to hear from anybody a little bit further along in their LSAT/7 sage journey. My question is about how many pts with rigorous BR did it take for you to start noticing improvement?

a few details: i've finished cc. my diagnostic was 148 2 years ago and just took my first 3 pts within 2 weeks, all 158,159, and 157 (mentally struggled on this one). these were pt 40, 41, and 42 btw. each section is actually pretty even in terms of stats (-7 LR, -8 RC, -5LR, -9 LG). i am about to start fool-proofing LG in conjunction with ~2 pts/week. trying to take August 29 and planning for October 3 too, as i would like to apply this cycle.

my BR strategy is pretty intensive. i quite literally retake the entire test and reconvince myself of every answer, and on questions that are not immediately obvious I convince myself of why every other answer choice is not correct. as a result my BR score is pretty high (173, 175, 171) for where i'm at in studying. It does take me about 2 days to do this fully.

My reason for posing this question is I want to know that i'm not wasting time with the extensive BR that i'm doing. i am putting a lot into studying for this thing - it's a labor of love, really. but i only have so much time before these exams and i want to be doing the most effective strategies possible. is the extremely extensive BR strategy worth it? or should i just be devoting more time to LG foolproofing upfront instead? i don't know how long fool-proofing will take (i was a math major in college and i can solve the entire section almost flawlessly in BR) but i'm hoping it will only be a couple of weeks so i can continue to focus on BR.

Would love to hear anecdotal advice, critiques on strategy, really anything for how you guys saw your scores increase over time!

Thank you in advance!

Hello All,

I have received my score, 149. This was my third time taking it. The first and second time I have no previous studying. For the third take I took the course and took about 6/7 months to study. I was scoring 164/165 on the newest PT's. However, on test day everything crashed and burned and received a score 20 points below my PT average. I freaked out on LG, which ironically was my strong suit and bombed that section. I was wondering if it would be wise to re take the LSAT in August and figure out what went wrong (I had test anxiety) and try to bring up my score on actual test day. If so, this would be my fourth time taking it. I am wanting to apply to Fall 21 or maybe Spring 21 depending where I would be able to go. Going to law school is my dream but I am not a good test taker. 7Sage is such a big and understanding community and I really would appreciate it, if y'all could give me some insight.

Thank you

I finished the CC and I was wondering where to go from here. I've taken 2 full/timed practice tests, but should I be doing untimed sections or timed sections or both? Also, which tests should I use for untimed work vs. full on timed practice tests?

I wanted to share a resource which has helped me and a few others gain a better understanding of logical reasoning. The Wireless Philosophy Youtube channel has a 35 video playlist on what they call Critical Thinking. These videos address what arguments are, fundamental principles of reasoning, and common fallacies. I especially like the fallacy videos because they are a bit outside of the normal "cookie cutter" flaws that we think of but nonetheless are heavily used on LR questions. Many of these fallacies slap a label or term on reasoning patterns that we all know "feel" wrong but can't always articulate.

I did not watch these videos in order. I watched a couple a day to supplement and break up my studies. I think there is much value in thinking about arguments and the LSAT from many perspectives. Hopefully these videos help something click for someone out there!

Here is the Link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtKNX4SfKpzX_bhh4LOEWEGy3pkLmFDmk

Hi all,

I'm a recent student of 7sage and must say I'm loving the content! The information in the first 2 weeks are very detailed, granted it can seem dull, but I understand the approach. It might be just my years as a philosophy student that makes me see the overview as overkill, but, I do understand this may be completely foreign to some people, and quite necessary.

Anyway! My question is, since this is the first time I'm studying for the LSAT (highly nervous), I think I overshot with the prep materials I purchased. Before I came across 7sage, I purchased all the Powerscore bibles. I started reading the LR bible last week, but I found it a bit too detailed and convoluted. I seemed to be more confused after reading the first 2 chapters, and doing their practice drills, than if I didn't read the chapters. Not sure anyone else felt that way?

But for those of you who have purchased the trilogies in addition to taking the 7sage course, do you feel it's a necessary support to your study prep? Trying to figure out if I should even bother keeping the books.

I'm struggling internally with not reading every single prep material that is considered the "holy grail" of LSAT studying. I feel like if I don't include it into my study schedule, it'll be reflected in my score. What do you all think? Is it necessary to have those bibles?

Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks :)

I will be taking the FLEX using a desktop computer that has a camera, and was wondering if anyone has experience with how to make this work with the flex requirement to show around your testing area (really would not be easy to pick up the entire monitor and show under my desk lol). Does anyone know if I could get another detachable camera to use? Or if I would be able to get a mirror and angle it to show my surroundings?

I just finished the core curriculum. I am taking the actual October. How many should I take a week until then? Where should I start, should it be more recent tests or should I start along somewhere in the PT50s?

Hi! Is it too late to switch my July flex test for the August test? I think I could benefit from the time to do extra practice tests. Thanks!

So I was setting up the rules for Game/Preptest 44, sec 3 game 3.

Game stem: A tour group plans to visit exactly five archaeological sites. Each site was discovered by exactly one of the following archaeologist - F,G,O and each dates from The 8th,9th, Or 10th century. The tour must satisfy the following conditions:

There was this rule that stated: Exactly one of the sites was discovered by Gallagher, and it dates from the tenth century.

2)How do I know G and 10 are not a Block, I’m sure many people create it as a false block. What modifier in the statement let’s me know it’s conditional ?!?

3)when it does state “exactly”- is it implying that G is in the game ONLY once Since the game stem isn’t requiring all variables to be present, but that ALL sites be occupied by once the archeologist and when G is Summoned it’s carrying the century Variable with it ?

When I took the LSAT for the first time I did horribly. I got a 143 and was in the 20th percentile.

After 4 months of studying (2 of which were here on 7sage - the other 2 were on Khan Academies official LSAT course) I took the June Flex test and got my results back.

I have increased my score by over 20 points to165 which puts me in the 91st percentile.

I am about to register for the August test so I will be here for a while but I really wanted to express my gratitude to the entire 7sage community and to JY in particular!

As of today, the trajectory of my life has changed. I am forever grateful.

Now I can confidently say "I'm [going to be] a lawyer" in my best Harvey Levin impersonation.

My results came back - 171!!! JY straight up taught me how to play logic games. Seriously. Huge thank you!

Scored in the 98th percentile on June Flex thanks to JY and 7sage!

HI everyone! First post on here. I found out this morning that I scored significantly lower on my June LSAT-Flex than my PT average. Just signed up for 7Sage Ultimate+ to keep practicing, but I am feeling SO discouraged. What I thought would be my safety schools are now barely target schools. I am scheduled to retake in August - I know this is a quick turn around, but I want the option to apply early. Does anyone have advice for improving my score and/or getting my confidence back up?

I received a 167 on the June test and have a 3.98 GPA. Georgetown and Vanderbilt are top 2 choices, but I'm wondering if I should retake the test in August to increase my chances of admission and scholarships. I am a little worried about getting a lower score, which I don't anticipate but I guess is always possible.

Just took my first LSAT in June and received a 170. I had been consistently scoring 172s on practice tests and sometimes hitting 174. Timing was never an issue for me and I usually scored -0 on LG. Any advice for retaking it in August? Do you recommend redoing the curriculum or just sticking to taking practice tests?

I'm looking for other motivated test takers to discuss getting as close to a 180 as possible (including, of course getting a 180). Anyone interested?

I think its important to talk to people who have similar goals, both for motivation and for sharing tips, study habits, and generally getting into the mindset that scoring a 180 is very doable. In talking to others who have scored a 180 or close to it on the actual test, they have also talked about the importance of finding study partners who have similar goals.

Let me know if you're interested!

My last three PTs were 175, 176, 179

hi, this might be a silly question but after you input your answers for a preptest into the answer sheets on 7sage, how do you go about inputting answers for a blind review session on that same preptest?

(i did a preptest directly on lawhub and then manually transferred all the answers into the 7sage answer sheet for that preptest, now i'd like to redo the test using the blind review method, but not sure how to put in my answers on 7sage).

Hi everyone, I really want to improve my LR score, so I am currently working through the Loophole book. I'm trying to learn how to do CLIR-ing properly, but I'm not sure if the loopholes I am finding for argument stimulus-types are correct. Does anyone have any tips for dealing with this/or any insight on how this strategy helped them improve in LR? Thank you so much in advance!!

Hey yall. I need some help. I looked at my score this morning, and I am no where near where I want to be! This was my first LSAT, so I expected a lower score and to take it again, but I am still FREAKING OUT. I am planning on signing up for the August test, and I am REALLY hoping that it is a FLEX exam. I have terrible ADHD and I don't know if I can make it through a five section test phahahah. I am wanting to make about a 15-16 point jump before I feel comfortable to start applying. Is it too early to take it again? Should I give myself more time? Also, I still have access to my Kaplan self study plan until the end of August, so I plan on continuing to use that. I spent wayyy too much time getting through all of the fluff in videos and lessons, so I think that was my problem (very frustrating because I spent way too much on the program). I am going to commit to focusing on practice rather than content this go around and hope that I can get where I want to on my next exam. Please leave some suggestions as to if taking the exam again in August is too soon and ANY tips on how to increase my score! Thanks!

Hi everyone,

I just took the June flex exam after spending only less than a month on 7sage (unfortunately I didn't find this website in time). I'm not satisfied with the score I got the on the June exam, I had only spent two months prior to it getting ready, and am planning to take it again at the end of August. I've already gone over most of the videos available in the course, should I start from scratch or focus more on taking more prep tests and my weaknesses? Any advice would be welcome.

Thank you!

I just got the same score as my diagnostic, been prepping for about a month. My scores seems to fluctuate widely and the logic games section kills me every time. I'm genuinely getting worse and worse at this

Hi everyone,

So I started my LSAT journey 2 months ago and got a 144 diagnostic.

I had this idea in my head (probably ill-founded) that 4 months is all one should need to study if you study close to fulltime.

So I put in 4/5 hours a day for a good month and half and have now upped my efforts to around 6-8 hours a day -this is chiefly due to anxiety about not being prepared for the August test.

We're two months out and I have only completed 65% of the CC (I'm trying to be thorough: BR, Foolproofing LGs etc).

I'm getting pretty anxious because I've only started LG a week ago and while fairly accurate, I'm quite slow at them. Moreover I've seen many people here mention that one should FP the LGs from PT 1-35 before taking PTs and there's no way I have time to do all of that- I could maybe, maybe do half.

Best case scenario I finish the CC and have a month to take PTs. I guess I just wanted to reach out and see if people have seen substantial improvement with only a month of PTing, given they've spent a good amount of time on the fundamentals.

I've signed up for the October test as well just in case, although even then, I've heard a month between takes is too short?

I'd really appreciate any advice!

Hey all, I have a question about admission 2021. Recently I‘ve heard a lot of people are going to or planning on deferring.

So if there are too much people deferring this year, would that be shrinking the next cycle admission pool?

Does anyone have any ideas?

The June flex scores are suppose to be released today. Will LSAC send an email or do we have to check our account?

I am far too nervous to check my account.

Also, we have until July 31st to write our essays right? I already have one on file but wanted to do it again.

Hi everyone,

I'm taking an Aug test and need an advice on how to continue studying before the test.

I completed the CC and did 4 untimed PTs with full BR. It takes me somewhere 5-6 days to complete one PT, I translate and write down every stimulus, write down my assumptions and go through every AC in details. With only couple of months left I worry that I won't be able to go through enough PTs if I do one PT a week averagely.

I'm really struggling with the daily schedule. I'm studying 6 days a week, 5-6hrs a day. Should I be doing untimed PTs or should I start timing them? Should I be doing a full PT or just one section at a time? How should I schedule LR, RC, and LG so I spend enough time on each section before the test?

Any advice would be appreciated or if you could share your daily schedule 😊