Hello all,

I just wrote the January LSAT and am throughly upset how my test was administered. My testing room was located beside an active lecture hall. Although I could hear the professor lecturing faintly, that was not the issue. The issue was that During section 1 of my test the lecture finished. Subsequently, a large group of students congregated outside our class and were having conversations loud enough in which our whole room could hear. To make matters worse, this occurred once again in section 3. Collectively, this occurred for approximately 20 to 30 minutes of our test. To make matters worse the door which was being used for that lecture hall was broken and would make an incredibly loud screech every time someone entered their class.

We had 3 proctors in our room and it was not until half way through the third section where a proctor went out. Throughout this, it was loud enough to spark our proctors attention as they were consistently looking out the class door window to see what was going on. I understand that distractions are bound to happen, but I assumed that proctors would at least attempt to mitigate them. I do not understand why 3 proctors were needed in one small room yet not a single one in the hallway.

As a Canadian applicant, this was my last chance to test for Fall 2020 admissions and a cancelled test is not an option for me. If anyone could please advise if it is worthwhile to make a complaint it would greatly appreciated.

Hoping someone can assist. I at times am unable to focus and feel scatterbrained when taking the exam under time constraints. I have been trying the meditation piece which is in the CC. Is there anything else my fellow 7 Sagers might recommend that could help me shake the rushed scatterbrain feeling when taking practice test? Thank you!

I was wondering if being Vietnamese counts as URM. I’ve been researching it and I found mixed answers some say yes and some say no. Also does being a first generation college student/law student boost your admission chances?

Thanks in advance!

Is it possible to check the status of an application other than waiting for a piece of mail?

I applied 6 weeks ago early decision. They guarantee response in 4 weeks, but I haven't yet heard from them. I live in a NYC apartment, so there's a that a piece of mail got lost. Wondering at what point I should take next steps (for example, calling admissions office?)

Would taking the LSAT in April be too late for the Fall. I took the LSAT on Monday and im planning to retake it.

If anyone is scoring great in rc and has tips / does tutoring please let me know I am missing all my points in rc. I am missing like 13 in rc and -2/3 in everything else. SOS.

What do you think the scale is?

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Hello everyone! I was curious about using IF/Every with negations. I understand that you essentially negate the necessary variable in the sentence and move on ward (These are the quiz's im talking about https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-negation-4-answers/ Q.2). My question is that when we look at every as a sufficient in group one, we never had a negation attached to it. When do I know to negate the premise after every and when do I know to take it face value as in previous lessons? Unless I missed it, we were never taught why we are suddenly not taking every at face value as the sufficient and leaving it at that?

Hello,

I just took my first LSAT yesterday (Jan 2020) and immediately signed up for the April test because I really felt that I could do better. Without knowing how I actually did, I am trying to come up with the best study strategies for the next 3 months.

My PT score average was 166, with recent lowest at 163 and highest at 170. (I am pretty sure my score from yesterday would be around the lower side of my usual range, if even. I choked and ran out of time more than usual).

Ive been studying since September 2019 so about 4 months, just self-study with LSAT trainer and Khan. My biggest concern is that I went through PTs 48-81 already and I’m afraid I don’t have many fresh recent PTs left.

To prepare for the retake, I’ve ordered LG bible and Loophole for LR. My weakest section is RC but I’m not sure how to study other than just practicing. Timing is a challenge for me.

Is there any wisdom that anyone could share, I would really appreciate it.

Thank you for your time!

So I took the LSAT at Xyna international school in Canada.

The test centre was noisy. Like there was a large vent which would go off at random times and it sounded like a drill.

The proctor also wore heels, which made a lot of noise due to the wooden floor.

-People were talking during the break which I believe isn't allowed (during my previous test we were told not to talk to each other during the break)

I heard test centre complaints could delay your results or even result in a retest.

I'm applying to schools in Canada.

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Hi, guys,

I am having a problem with the time to answer the questions. I started a month ago and it takes me from 2.30-6 min to answer a question. I heard that it is ok for the beginning but still want to get some advice, is it a correct and most effective way, start with longer time and later (i don't know when) try to cut the time? Any advice appreciated. Thank you.

I have 2.8 gpa from undergraduate and 3.88 from graduate.

Should I give up for applying to t14 Law school even though I have high LSAT?

or should I go to college to make up my low undergraduate gpa ?

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I am planning to take the LSAT this summer, but I want to go ahead and add a Letter of Recommendation to my LSAC account. Do I need to buy CAS on my LSAC account BEFORE I attempt to start the LOR process with a recommender? Or can I go ahead and do it through the LSAC account even though I haven't bought CAS yet?

I remember when I first found this website last year after 5 months of studying for the LSAT and one cancelled score. I wrote the test two more times and ended up with a mid/high 160s score. Maybe I didn’t quite reach the 99th percentile on the real exam but I scored well enough to be confident about some pretty great tier 1 schools. For that I owe this community a big thanks: I wouldn’t have had the motivation to keep going without you.

I received my first acceptance from my state University on Friday, January 10th. This was a surprise since I had only applied on January 8th and I thought it would take longer. I’m waiting on six more results before I decide where I’ll attend but things are starting in the right direction!

My 2.8 GPA and unusual educational background (hybrid online/b&m while serving active duty military) had me concerned that I would be in for a disappointing cycle. I needed a great LSAT and thanks to 7Sage I did well enough to be above the 75th percentile for almost every school in the country. Granted, my softs are solid (I’m a senior NCO with 14 years in the Army) but nothing helps an application like a strong LSAT. Thanks and good luck to everyone who’s still toiling with the test: there’s light at the end of the tunnel!

Hey guys - quick question that I'm not sure anyone knows the answer to....

I submitted many applications on December 7th, followed by a CF addendum (forgot about some speeding tickets) on December 26th.

Does anyone know if amending your file sets your application back in the evaluation line? Apps are evaluated in the order they come in at a lot of places, and I'm worried I may have lost several weeks worth of time due to the addenda...which concerns me given the non-zero benefit of applying earlier rather than later.

Thanks,

Dave

Hi all,

Is only 1 bottle allowed at the test center? Or can you take 2. I’d like to take a small bottle with coffee and a small bottle with water. Can I do that?

I’m taking the exam tomorrow. If anyone could let me know, than would be great.

When you're mentioning two professors who co-taught a class, would you say professors or Professors followed by their names? Just wondering. Thanks.

How do you represent neither nor ?

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/visual-representation-of-or-and-not-both-in-inout-games/

Hi guys,

For those of you with 170+, I wanted to ask a question based on strategy.

Let's say that I take PT70 under fully timed conditions, with an experimental section pulled from an old exam. I blind review (BR) the LR section. I fool proof (FP) the LG section. I do the memory method (MM) for the RC section. This happens immediately after taking the exam timed.

According to some of the webinars that I watched, high LSAT scorers have a tendency to redo the questions they got wrong, well after their initial review (BR, FP, and MM) process. Some look at them after a week. For some, a month. Etc...

Question 1: How frequently do you do this? Why?

Question 2: After the initial review, after some time has passed, do you redo all of the questions that you got wrong in LR, LG, and RC sections? Or do you focus solely on LR sections? Why?

Question 3: If you do look at LR section only, which questions that you got wrong, do you redo? Do you redo the questions that you did not circle to be BRed and got wrong? Do you redo the questions that you circled and BRed correctly? Do you redo the questions that you circled and BRed incorrectly? Why?

For contextual purposes, I would say that LG is my strongest section, followed by the LR, and then the RC being the worst section.

Thank you!

I want to quickly discuss a common type of causation argument that LSAC uses.

Here is an example:

Those who wear glasses are more likely than those who do not to have knee problems. To ensure good knee health, ditch the glasses.

We take a correlation and make a recommendation, seems pretty innocuous- maybe this is sound advice.

No! This advice is rooted in making an assumption. This assumption is a really bad reasoning error. It is assuming that wearing glasses is what causes knees to have problems. That is why the advice to stop wearing glasses to prevent knee damage is given. Notice how the argument never comes out and says "Glasses cause Knee problems", that would be too easy. The implicit assumption that the argument makes is inferring causation from correlation.

As we know, when A is correlated with B, there are 4 possibilities :

For our advice to ditch the glasses to work, we would need A to cause B, or, in other words, glasses to cause knee problems. If it really is the case that knee problems cause people to wear glasses (B causes A), then just stopping wearing glasses will do nothing, the advice would be terrible. Similarly, if genetics causes both knee problems and glasses and that is why we have our correlation, then taking glasses off will do nothing. In short, the only way our advice works is if glasses really do cause knee problems. We cannot say this is the case just based on the existence of a correlation, there are 3 other possibilities which are equally likely.

Boiled down to variables the argument goes like this:

**A is correlated with B

If you desire B, just do A.

or

If you want to prevent B, don't to A**

Well, for this advice to make sense, we must assume that A causes B and we cannot do that based on a correlation.

These questions are sometimes tricky because they make intuitive sense. They will really try to make the advice sound good, despite making a correlation causation error. Here is one last example:

People with a lot of sugar in their diets tend to get disease XYZ more often than those who do not. To lower your risk of XYZ, cut out sugar from your diet.

Well, we know sugar is bad for health, so this does not seem bad at all. BUT, this argument commits the error of taking a correlation and jumping to the conclusion that sugar is what is causing XYZ. This is done implicitly (hence to title of the post) and is not ok for the reasons discussed above!

PT 78 S3 Q21 (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-78-section-3-question-21/) is a good example of this form and disguises the flaw with an argument that seems to make sense.

Hope this was helpful!

Basically, my issue is with the whole explanation from JY. But for discussion sake let's focus on Q23.

If you read the question paragraph or question stem without reading Q23, you will figure out that J and K are bidirectional i.e. cannot be in the same clinic together (proof below).

So my question is why is then Q23 can have A too as the right answer choice.

Proof

s and r are locations

Js -> Kr

~Kr -> ~Js

Ks -> Jr (because only s and r are there)

Therefore, Ks (-) Jr